F1 "MOVING" Ferrari Floor Under Scrutiny From Rivals


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Ferrari’s floor has come under scrutiny from rival teams, who suspect there may be a mechanism that allows it to move illegally.

Although he did not name Ferrari or specify floors, McLaren boss Ron Dennis says he is confident that are cars whose performance will be affected in the near future if certain technical rule interpretations are clarified.

If the front of the floor drops at speed it could create an aerodynamic stall, which improves straightline performance.

That won’t necessarily show up with stunning speed trap figures, as it could also allow cars to run a bit more wing and have better performance – with less taken out of the tires – in the corners.

The rules allow for a certain amount of “absorption” in that area of the car because the floor takes a lot of punishment from the curbs, and if it is too rigid, the chassis would suffer. However, if the floor is actually capable of lowering, it would be an illegal movable aerodynamic device.

All cars have a form of stay holding the front of the floor in place, but rivals noticed an unusually complex arrangement on the Ferrari when the bodywork was off the car in the Melbourne pit garage.

The FIA placed a particular emphasis on examining floors at Melbourne, and took a close look at the Ferrari. Sources close to the FIA suggest that at this stage the team has been given the benefit of the doubt. The current FIA test on that part of the car apparently involves only checking with an upward force.

As with last year’s flexing wing affair, in the early races teams are often told privately by the FIA to change suspect elements of their cars for future events. Often that process is kick-started by informal complaints or evidence from other teams.

Dennis has made it clear to us that he suspects that there are some illegal cars in the pitlane.

“We will see how things are in two or three races,” he told speedtv.com. “There is a whole range of things that come to light in the first race and you go and you say what is legal, and what is not legal. Most teams are given that current race to enjoy the benefit of the doubt. I think there will be a rationalization of some aspects of some cars that would close the gap if no one did anything.

“You look at people’s cars, you are not always of the opinion that rule interpretation has been strictly adhered to, and you get in to, ‘Hold on a second, what are we allowed to do and what are we not allowed to do?’ and that always takes place at the first event. So it takes a race or two to know what is or isn’t permitted.”

Questioned by SPEEDtv.com, a dismissive Ferrari spokesman said: “It’s part of the game any time Ferrari is quickest. It’s not the first time that there have been questions about legality. If someone has a complaint, there is always the FIA.”

SpeedTV.com: F1 EXCLUSIVE: "Moving" Ferrari Floor Under Scrutiny From Rivals (Powered by TotalF1.com)
 
scuderia is like juventus..they love to cheat..
so i would bet on scuderia cheatin..haha
 
The same thing as the flexible rear wings, Engineers are always in the borderline of Sport laws.


Movable aerodynamics were illegal in the first place, just that they weren't punished like Honda was with the fuel tank. And then there were the measurement infringement in the 1990s. And so on and so on.

Point is who's right and are regulation complete on this subject ?!
Cause this sounds like ground effect aerodynamics banned in the 1980s. :eusa_thin :t-hands:
 
Even more.

BMW are also using something similar and I've heard Renault will test it next week and have it on their car for the Malasian GP.


SO McMerc the one major force with no "flexi" floor ?!
 
Autosport reports that the FIA has reacted to allegations of a movable floor design used primarily by Ferrari, by changing its bodywork tests used for checking for compliance with the regulations.

After this month's Australian Grand Prix, which was won by Ferrari's Kimi Räikkönen, McLaren's team boss, Ron Dennis, was seen having a heated exchange with his Ferrari counterpart Jean Todt. Afterwards, Dennis said that a number of things had been spoken about, but observers believed that Ferrari's flexible floor was the chief one.

The device fitted by Ferrari allows the floor of the car to pass the FIA floor flexibility test when the car is at a standstill, but it permits the floor to flex once the car is exposed to higher forces than those applied by the test rig when out on the track. This allows the longitudinal attitude of the car to change, resulting in improved aerodynamics and better terminal speed.

The FIA's Formula One Technical Delegate, Charlie Whiting, was subsequently asked by McLaren's engineering director, Paddy Lowe, whether McLaren could fit a similar system to their cars, thereby prompting clarification of the issue by the FIA.

Now the FIA has issued a letter to all the teams in which the device is allowed, but the floor flexibility test procedure will be changed to nullify any advantage the system offered because the tests will be done with the device disconnected.

"The test described in Article 3.17.4 is intended to test the flexibility of bodywork in that area, not the resistance of a device fitted for the purpose of allowing the bodywork to move further once the maximum test load is exceeded," said Whiting. "Quite clearly, any such device would be designed to permit flexibility and is therefore strictly prohibited by Article 3.15 of the Technical Regulations. We have no objection to a device in this area which is fitted to prevent the bodywork from moving downwards, provided it is clear that it is not designed to circumvent the test described in Article 3.17.4. Therefore, with immediate effect, we will be testing bodywork in the relevant area with any such devices removed."


© 2007 SuperSport - Bruce Hepburn.




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FIA Warns Teams About Floor Flexing


Ferrari and BMW-Sauber are likely to have to modify the designs of their cars' floors after a warning was issued by FIA technical delegate Charlie Whiting.

Apparently following an informal complaint made by formula one rival McLaren at the Australian grand prix, Whiting has sent a letter to all teams informing them that detailed checks will be carried out on cars' underbodies during scrutineering in future to ensure that teams are adhering to the spirit of the rules about banned moveable devices.





The floor designs of both Ferrari and BMW passed the former flexibility checks in Melbourne, but the teams are likely to present modified cars to scrutineers on the Thursday of the upcoming Malaysian GP.

Spain's 'Marca' newspaper, meanwhile, revealed that McLaren brought the matter to the FIA's attention with a letter from engineering chief Paddy Lowe, in which he asked the governing body for permission to apply a similar design to its own MP4-22 model.
 
Ha ha ha...this like little bitching that Ron always does. Just like how Collin Colles is bitching about the Red Bull and Super Aguri cars. It's just a part of the sport. You take the rules you're given and try to bend them as much as possible...Simple.
 

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