Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[AbsoluteUnit]

Oh dear...I cannot shake the suspicion that this is not going to end well.

"Mission (E) Control to Taycan: We DON'T have a problem."

Not sure what the histrionics are about. Doesn't look bad at all, and it's just a render.

I've seen you flip and flop about this car quite a lot. How about we just wait for it to be revealed .

 

[Design FIRST]

I've seen you flip and flop about this car quite a lot.

True. When the first more heavily camo'd prototypes were captured on film, the silhouette of the car really knocked me dead. More camo started coming off and some of the flank sculpturing was disclosed under the thin film of foil. Looked stellar IMHO. Fast forward. The GT XX concept disappointed me a bit. And then...holes drilled in the pre-production prototypes hood camocladding indicated that those ghastly air outlets of the GT XX concept would be replicated on the production car. This most recent rendering indicate that as well. Also not a fan of what the headlamps and front grill/shield appear to look like. The carbon fiber trim piece on the front fender is superfluous. The Maybach R232 Monogram series and the AMG Mythos PureSpeed are so immensely tacky that I began to become increasingly skeptical with regard to the M-B design resurgence that I had been hoping for. And now, these GLC/C-Class EQ vehicles...uhhh...lukewarm.

Pardon me that my expectations were high. I can get carried away, admittedly. I'm pretty passionate, albeit not immensely knowledgable, when it comes to design. I'm not quite clever enough to thoroughly analyize the mechanicals and electronics. I was so hoping for a formidable resurgence of M-B design following the unfortunate first EQ vehicles. Now, I'm simply skeptical.

 

[Pagani]

Not sure what the histrionics are about. Doesn't look bad at all, and it's just a render.

I've seen you flip and flop about this car quite a lot. How about we just wait for it to be revealed .

I agree. While I don't like the hood scoops at all, nothing here offends me.

 

[Ghost1]

Oh dear...I cannot shake the suspicion that this is not going to end well.

"Mission (E) Control to Taycan: We DON'T have a problem."

Looks awful

 

[Uygar]

Not even close to the real deal. They just slapped on AMG GT’s face and called it a day.

 

[fortuner]

This thread is for Mercedes Next and last 2 pages are filled with Ai or A members drawings how a upcoming car would look can we use thread for their purpose

C class ev can go to c class ev and let’s use this for what’s next or some real news

 

[Uygar]

This thread is for Mercedes Next and last 2 pages are filled with Ai or A members drawings how a upcoming car would look can we use thread for their purpose

C class ev can go to c class ev and let’s use this for what’s next or some real news

Where’s the C-Class EQ thread? I can’t find it.

 

[Pagani]

Speaking of what’s next, do we know what this GT Track Sport is all about? Is this a super expensive two seater meant to homologate the GT3 racing program or are we talking about a legitimate member of the GT family with multiple trim levels? If the latter, are we now talking about an entire GT family? 2dr 4sear coupe and convertible (incl. the SL), four door coupe and now two seat coupe?

 

[Fastpaddy]

Speaking of what’s next, do we know what this GT Track Sport is all about? Is this a super expensive two seater meant to homologate the GT3 racing program or are we talking about a legitimate member of the GT family with multiple trim levels? If the latter, are we now talking about an entire GT family? 2dr 4sear coupe and convertible (incl. the SL), four door coupe and now two seat coupe?

The latter

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

The latter

As a customer, have you heard any rumblings?

 

[asrapid1]

Mercedes Unlocks The Secret To New Straight-Six, V8, And V12 Engines

Carbuzz

We know Mercedes-Benz is planning new gas engines as the electric vehicle takeover has fallen behind schedule. Now we know more about that new series of gas engines thanks to this patent recently found by CarBuzz. It looks like it could be one of the most flexible since Volkswagen's W experiments of 20 years ago. This new engine could deliver four and six-cylinder inline configurations, and along with them a new V8 and a new V12.

With every new engine, especially from a luxury brand, the goal is more power, more performance, and more efficient use of every drop of gasoline. With its new design, Mercedes-Benz is looking to improve all of those, and it seems like it has a bit of tech that could help make it happen.

The trick is an extra exhaust route for every cylinder. On the I6 diagram Mercedes-Benz shows, the first three cylinders are paired using one and the latter three cylinders using another. A valve connects the two halves, and it can open and close. The diagram shows them as external pipes, but really it's a channel inside the cylinder head.

Mercedes-Benz says that opening the valve to let all of the cylinders have that shared exhaust gas area can reduce pumping losses and improve horsepower at higher RPM. The patent claims that it's related to how that connection pulses the exhaust flow in the exhaust ports.

In short, a small portion of the exhaust flow from some of the cylinders can help push the exhaust out of the one with open exhaust valves at that moment. That helps make power. There is no external exit for this flow, except back through the engine.

What has us really interested is that Mercedes-Benz sees using this on multiple combinations of engines. The I4, I6, and, crucially, V8 and V12 mills. Would it have brought up the idea if it didn't plan to make a V12? Maybe, but also we don't think so. Plus, Mercedes has already said the S will get a V12 for a long time (see the related story above).

Buyers of premium luxury cars want as many cylinders as possible. Those engines run smoother, and the badge gives them more prestige. It's why Rolls-Royce continues to build V12s, because for some models, anything less just wouldn't do.

This engine, of course, is also turbocharged. Even today, a V12 needs turbos to help make it as efficient and powerful as possible, recapturing the energy wasted in the exhaust and using it to increase horsepower.


The engine described here is not the same as the flat-plane crank V8 Benz patented earlier in the year. That model was more clearly described as only a V8 configuration. More importantly, in this patent, Mercedes-Benz says that the exhaust channels require a 120 degree crankshaft interval, not the 180 degrees of a flat-plane design.