Hot! Mercedes-Benz, What's Next?

[Mr. Mercedes]

It's depressing to see MB so frantically trying to catch up after a lost decade, and it will truly be another decade before you will see the fruits. One can only dream where MB would probably be right now were it weren't for that asshole (excuse the French) Jurgen Schremp and the board that let him get away with it.

 

[K-A]

One can only dream where MB would probably be right now were it weren't for that asshole (excuse the French) Jurgen Schremp and the board that let him get away with it.

Don't even start with that. Now you have me fantasizing! Imagine how wonderful that would be.

M-B's were so magical in the 80's/early 90's.

I was even truly captivated by them in the early 00's, especially considering I was mostly ignorant to any quality issues (focused on design and badge).

 

[Giannis]

M-B's were so magical in the 80's/early 90's.

Ι don't think that MB was magical during that era. It was, though, extremely well-built which is was made MB stand out.

 

[W124]

Haven't read nothing yet but OP.
Was going to make a thread about this after reading the new E FL thread. Someone said MB's are going with the rounder edges in that thread. Id like to see Merc go back to solid lines from the 80's. Get back to your image to what it once was instead of catering to a younger demo.

 

[Merc1]

Mercedes needs to go back to being engineer driven and back to what made them great. I see glimpses of it in the next S-Class and even in the new SL and especially the GL. A no excuses vehicle. Just tidy up the design, but I think they really need to have a more identifiable environmental strategy as others have stated. If BMW's i project takes off, Mercedes will be so far behind. They also need to get back being a true innovator, and do it reliably. The S-Class will see if they're back on their game in this regard. I just want to see so many things from Mercedes and I think a lot of their traditionalist want to also, along with the greedy shareholders.

Why not do one truly retro model? Like a modern version of the 190E or 300E, just to create a serious, one-off hit?

I'd like to see the G redesigned, Range Rover style, on its own ultra-modern, all aluminum platform. Stronger than before, and unheard of luxury in an SUV, price it higher than the current G550, which is like over 100K already, it will sell if done right.

Smart needs to be totally re-thought. Mini and now Fiat have proven that Americans will buy small, but boutique cars and in the case of Mini, they'll buy them at a premium. The next Generation of Smarts need to be, have to be winners.

I don't know how they can create the magic of the 600/Pullman at the other end, that is going to be a tough one.

A true sports car should be in there also, under 3000lbs with a V8 to take on Ferrari/Porsche/Mclaren. Throw out the typical Mercedes rulebook about weight and amenities.

M

 

[Sunny]

Mercedes needs to go back to being engineer driven
M

All the Germans companies needs to go back to being engineering driven. I can't help feel they been all taken over by a bunch of designers who are not petrol heads. Leave the haute couture to the Italians and French. It is the engineering focus and the adherence to "form follows function" idiom that attracted me to German cars in the first place and it is sad to see them loose it.

 

[Tumbo]

In my opinion, they have to hire a new designer. To me, it's all about the design.

Cause I think we all agree, that this:


...looks so much better, cleaner, well proportioned, sleeker and just more beautiful, that this!


And same goes here. How can you turn this beautiful, timeless, sleek and well proportioned design:


Into this!



I quote "you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself". It's all about the design. The cars don't look as exotic as they did before. Oh boy, when you saw an SL in like 2002, you knew that it was one of the greatest cars on the market. Now, when you see one, you go like "I'd rather take an R8 or an M6" eaaasy. The car market is no longer what it used to be. Other manufacturers are right there up with them, and for Gods sake, stop reaveling cars that look like sh*t! That's my two cents.
It seems like the only good looking Benz out there now, is the G-class, which has the roots in the 70s. Oh and the C and the S still look good. But I guess they will ruin that in the next models.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

^Wow...the bash Mercedes thread comes alive! That is the kind of BS that makes me want to leave this forum. Every thread the same Mercedes did this wrong and that wrong. At least BMW fans had the common sense to stick by their ugly cars last generation. Mercedes puts a line on the side of their cars now the world has turned upside down. Same people same comments everyday.

GermanCarComplainers.com

 

[GS-1905]

I think that the new SL above is thousend times betterlooking than the old one. I see one everyday, and irl its a very stylish car. The 2002 SL was fenomenal for its time and indeed one of the best cars on market but was there a true, also beautiful, competitor for that SL... The market now is full of new, very beautiful cars. I was never interested in audi, but if you look at their cars now, A5 A7. Theyr awesome. You have much more choises now.
Take the new B class, i think its perfect. It should be selling well. But if you look at that new concept of BMW, the B competitor, than you know that the sale numbers of the B will be going down automatically.

There s nothing wrong with Merc, the competition is just strong now.

 

[Tumbo]

^Wow...the bash Mercedes thread comes alive! That is the kind of BS that makes me want to leave this forum.

Excuse me? Bash?? Did you even read my thread closely? The question of the thread was what they should do to break this negative trend, and I gave my opinion and answer. That they should change the designer and get back to their roots. So what on earth do you mean with "bash", I have no idea? I myself LOVE Mercedes and have always done that. And I dont seem to be alone with my opinion, about the direction MB is going. That was the whole point of this thread!!
So dont come here and tell me about bash/bias talk here. This was straight on topic, and your answer was not.
So, you can actually WOW yourself there, my friend. Cause your reply was "wow" wrong.

 

[Merc1]

Excuse me? Bash?? Did you even read my thread closely? The question of the thread was what they should do to break this negative trend, and I gave my opinion and answer. That they should change the designer and get back to their roots. So what on earth do you mean with "bash", I have no idea? I myself LOVE Mercedes and have always done that. And I dont seem to be alone with my opinion, about the direction MB is going. That was the whole point of this thread!!
So dont come here and tell me about bash/bias talk here. This was straight on topic, and your answer was not.
So, you can actually WOW yourself there, my friend. Cause your reply was "wow" wrong.

Don't worry about it, some of us are having a harder time accepting that Mercedes is having some difficulty right now.

M

 

[MBFanToDeath]

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Sorry for OT

The new SL have the most unique design ever compared to any Merc. One of my favorite Merc ever!

 

[Nicks]

^Wow...the bash Mercedes thread comes alive! That is the kind of BS that makes me want to leave this forum. Every thread the same Mercedes did this wrong and that wrong. At least BMW fans had the common sense to stick by their ugly cars last generation. Mercedes puts a line on the side of their cars now the world has turned upside down. Same people same comments everyday.

GermanCarComplainers.com

Totally agree. I just know that every time i open new thread in MB section there'll be same guys (mostly K-A) writting same stuff over and over and over again. And i find myself wanting to read that less and less

 

[Merc1]

The SL63 looks much better than the SL550, its the grille, it is much smaller and the lights don't look at bad. The wheels and AMG sports wear help too. SL63 is a hot one IMO.

M

 

[MBFanToDeath]

^ I agree with you, but, the first R231 I saw was the 550 and believe me @ that moment I was ''OMG!" But AMG is AMG. Idk whats wrong with Mercs marketing department, espec @ MBUSA, I hate their promo and press photos -.-

 

[GS-1905]

The SL63 looks much better than the SL550

M

That SHOULD BE the case, the AMG or AMGtrim should look special, nicer, better.

 

[Tumbo]

Don't worry about it, some of us are having a harder time accepting that Mercedes is having some difficulty right now.

M

Yeah, tell me about it!

 

[Zafiro]

I dont know whats next but many new Benzes doesnt look as good as they did in the past. Also maybe MB lacks som good competitive engines?

 

[Merc1]

That SHOULD BE the case, the AMG or AMGtrim should look special, nicer, better.

Of course we all know that, but point is that the SL63 shouldn't make the SL550 look terrible, as it does to me. Every SL should be a beautiful car, not some the higher end models.

M

 

[GS-1905]

Of course we all know that, but point is that the SL63 shouldn't make the SL550 look terrible, as it does to me. Every SL should be a beautiful car, not some the higher end models.

M

There s still the AMG trim for the other SL's... Btw i dont think the 550 looks terrible, but thats just my opinion offcourse