S-Class (W223) Mercedes-Benz S-Class (W223) Facelift

[MichiB]

I can't help it, but those silly black trim pieces around the grille bother me considerably less on the facelifted W223 than they did on the E-Class.




Has the design of the 20-inch forged wheels changed slightly? I like them better than on the pre-facelift model.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

C'mon now...who on these forum boards have actually seen the W224 ? In a clinic, for example. And should a forum member feel addressed and be compelled to share only the most basic of info: Is the W224 "Smoother" ? "Taller" ? "Lower" ? "Wider" ? "Less applied ornamentation and more minimalistic" ? "More 2 1/2 Box rather than 3 Box silhouette" ? "MUCH larger in exterior dimensions" ?

Shakti has, but is bound by an NDA. So you're not getting much unless someone is willing to take the lawsuit.

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Côte d'Azur dark blue metallic
Leather Exklusiv tizian red
Walnut wood, brown, open-pored, aluminum lines

That leather is beautiful.

 

[Pagani]

If I had connections enough to be able to see the next S Class years before its release, I’d never jeopardize it by divulging on a forum.

 

[Dopebouy]

If I had connections enough to be able to see the next S Class years before its release, I’d never jeopardize it by divulging on a forum.

if it wasn’t only shown to you & you use a fake account , how would they know it’s you though?

 

[shakti]

if it wasn’t only shown to you & you use a fake account , how would they know it’s you though?

Signing a NDA is one side , but trusting the attendees of a W224 clinic the other.

I am happy and proud, that the chance to see the W224 and to compare the car to some major competitors in the VR world was given to me, so I will fulfill my part of the deal and not tell anyone details about it.

In 4 years time many changes can happen, so at least no one knows today fully,
what design and features around 2030 might be presented.

 

[Jacke]

Signing a NDA is one side , but trusting the attendees of a W224 clinic the other.

I am happy and proud, that the chance to see the W224 and to compare the car to some major competitors in the VR world was given to me, so I will fulfill my part of the deal and not tell anyone details about it.

In 4 years time many changes can happen, so at least no one knows today fully,
what design and features around 2030 might be presented.

can you tell did you like what you saw

 

[Design FIRST]

if it wasn’t only shown to you & you use a fake account , how would they know it’s you though?

Corporate lawyers can be extremely resourceful when a large automotive manufacturer deems legal action necessary. That can mean, gaining access to information (included names) on individuals behind the pseudonyms on automotive discussion forums. Perhaps the moderators of these boards can confirm this.

My, intended to be more "playful than serious", request for "a bit of info" on the W224 was poorly contemplated and a bit silly on my part. I certainly understand the apprehension by those who have signed NDAs.

 

[Dopebouy]

Signing a NDA is one side , but trusting the attendees of a W224 clinic the other.

I am happy and proud, that the chance to see the W224 and to compare the car to some major competitors in the VR world was given to me, so I will fulfill my part of the deal and not tell anyone details about it.

In 4 years time many changes can happen, so at least no one knows today fully,
what design and features around 2030 might be presented.

Okay since you have a voice, please tell them:

-Keep the Vision-Iconic sinister look, it’s quite intimidating. If there will be coupe variant, it MUST look exactly like the Vision-Iconic with no B-Pillar.

-Keep the ICEs for more buyers(Especially V12, it’s an S-class. No EVs only)

-The Interior must have a physical IWC Shaffhausen or two, it’s a fine luxurious touch.

-It must be bigger in size, the current S seems to lack space in the rear compared to competitors currently.

 

[MAJESTIC]

Okay since you have a voice, please tell them:

-Keep the Vision-Iconic sinister look, it’s quite intimidating. If there will be coupe variant, it MUST look exactly like the Vision-Iconic with no B-Pillar.

-Keep the ICEs for more buyers(Especially V12, it’s an S-class. No EVs only)

-The Interior must have a physical IWC Shaffhausen or two, it’s a fine luxurious touch.

-It must be bigger in size, the current S seems to lack space in the rear compared to competitors currently.

I definitely agree with all points, especially the rear seat space in the non-Maybach W223s. This is an area where the 7-Series has had Mercedes beat since the E65.

 

[Amat46]

I think they made the FL deliberately ugly so that next W224 will look amazing!

 

[Esp5]

I believe the main mistake, and one I consider inexcusable, was presenting the FL almost 6 years after launch, and that changes everything. The protocols and discipline that have governed the last 40 years are thrown out the window, and the fact that it's the S-Class makes it even worse.

 

[Serpens]

I believe the main mistake, and one I consider inexcusable, was presenting the FL almost 6 years after launch, and that changes everything. The protocols and discipline that have governed the last 40 years are thrown out the window, and the fact that it's the S-Class makes it even worse.

You would've been far more disappointed with the original plan.

 

[Esp5]

You would've been far more disappointed with the original plan.

Which one was it?

 

[Rolf]

I wish Mercedes gave the buyer of the FL S-class the choice to exclude the passenger screen (no Superscreen) like the E-class as it looks so much classier with this wood trim on the passenger side of the dash.

I believe the main mistake, and one I consider inexcusable, was presenting the FL almost 6 years after launch, and that changes everything. The protocols and discipline that have governed the last 40 years are thrown out the window, and the fact that it's the S-Class makes it even worse.

Yes this FL came way too late (5 years and 2 months after debut), its the longest gap in a debut and FL of a S-class model since the W126 (Sep 1979 to Sep 1985). I do think Mercedes have done a good job with the exterior changes but the interior is a disappointment with the superscreen and the gloss black trim not changed on the doors.

 

[Amat46]

I think the the exterior especially the headlights looks cheap, looks like an enlarged E class than S class.

 

[Serpens]

Which one was it?

The styling was largely the same, but the technology was going to be barely updated. They were basically betting on a huge push for electric vehicles and relatively stark drop off in ICE sales. It would've been more like the current GLE's first facelift.

 

[Esp5]

The styling was largely the same, but the technology was going to be barely updated. They were basically betting on a huge push for electric vehicles and relatively stark drop off in ICE sales. It would've been more like the current GLE's first facelift.

Basically, letting the EQS take over and gradually phasing out the S. That was definitely a worse plan.

 

[empower77]

why is everyone discounting COVID? It took away at least two years.