A-Class Mercedes-Benz A-class (2013) First Drives/Reviews Thread


The Mercedes-Benz A-Class is a car manufactured by Mercedes-Benz. It has been marketed across generations as a front-engine, front-wheel drive, five-passenger, five-door hatchback, with a three-door hatchback offered for the second generation, as well as a saloon version for the fourth.
I see, is faster, cheaper, consumes less fuell (therefore less taxes), looks miles more special and upmarket inside and out (even if I don't like the exterior too much), BUT it receives one star less than the Golf GTI, because according to the tester it doesn't feels as fast as the VW.

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I would take my A class same as the one on previous page the white A 250...Its faster on paper and feels good and handles well so its better then a GTI and also cheaper wow...I will take one when it hits SA.
 
I really want to see tests between the A 250 and 125i!

The exposed metal on the B-PIllars is a joke. As Human said, even Ford and Chevy are moving past that and covering them up with much more classy plastic pieces.

For what it's worth, the 1er has it too. Though a little less obvious....
 
^ MB may have left it exposed for facelift time. :eek:

The Autoexpress A250 probably used runflats, which may explain the comment about a sometimes quite bumpy ride on broken surfaces, due to the stiffer reinforced sidewalls. Here's a review with stickier non-runflats:
There's a unique front suspension set-up that adds almost 3 degrees of camber (from the standard car's +1 to -1.8) and a thicker antiroll bar (25mm v 23). At the rear the roll bar is upgraded too and geometry changes reduce roll steering for a more neutral feel at high levels of commitment. Stickier non-runflat tyres are also fitted.
 
For what it's worth, the 1er has it too. Though a little less obvious....

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Tightly sealed and covered by plastic cowl (around inner door side glass) and inner door rubber. (See photo B-pillar L+R)
Exactly the same materials, shutline and design as F30. Don't let me lecture you again Klier mate:D
 
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Tightly sealed and covered by plastic cowl (around inner door side glass) and inner door rubber. (See photo B-pillar L+R)
Exactly the same materials, shutline and design as F30. Don't let me lecture you again Klier mate:D

Sorry buddy, you got it wrong. I CAN see the body colored panels from inside the cabin of the F20. Didn't really sit much in the back, but it's clearly visible on the A pillar. Just a tiny bit, but still..
 
Sorry buddy, you got it wrong. I CAN see the body colored panels from inside the cabin of the F20. Didn't really sit much in the back, but it's clearly visible on the A pillar. Just a tiny bit, but still..

I am missing something, Carmen my purchasing manager has a F20 120d. She is currently doing training on our new IT - point of sales programme Syspro. I have driven the car and felt/see every detail. Will have a look again when she is back Friday. Her car:



Best I can do for now...but maybe I just need to open my big brown eyes LOL. Cheers, mate!(y)
 
Mercedes-Benz A-class review

Third to arrive in 2012’s triumvirate of premium hatchbacks, does the new Mercedes A-class pass with flying colours?

THE FACTS
Mercedes-Benz A-class
Tested: 1,461cc, four-cyl turbodiesel, six-speed manual transmission, front-wheel drive
Price/on sale: £19,000-£29,000/end of the year
Power/torque: 108bhp @ 4,000rpm/192lb ft @ 1,750rpm
Top speed: 118mph
Acceleration: 0-62mph in 11.3sec
Fuel economy: 74.3mpg (EU Combined)
CO2 emissions: 98g/km
VED band: A (£0)
Verdict: With the right suspension, the new A-class has a fine ride combined with some of the best engines in the game.
Telegraph rating: Four out of five stars

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/carreviews/9362246/Mercedes-Benz-A-class-review.html

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"The hatchback is unlikely to join the CLA and GLA here, but additional spin-offs are planned, one of which may stand a chance. Of the CLA-based wagon and convertible, we’d bet on the latter. (A three-door GLA is also rumored to be under consideration, as well as a two-door version of the CLA.) There also is the wicked A45 AMG with 350 hp and all-wheel drive. It won’t make it here, but its powertrain and driveline will in the CLA and possibly the crossover. At least based on this initial experience with the A-class, we’ll take whatever Mercedes wants to send our way."

That implies that the A-Class isn't coming to the U.S? I thought it was?
 
^ The A45 AMG is not coming, but the A-Class is. ;)

5dr A-Class Hatch
3dr A-Class Hatch
2dr A-Class Cabrio with fabric soft top
4dr CLA Coupe (183.6" long)
5dr CLA Shooting Brake
5-seater B-Class
7-seater B-Class XL
7-seater B-Class XXL (larger trunk than XL)
5dr GLA SUV
3dr GLA SUV
B-Class EV
 
^ Only a few B's with alternative drive. Remember the "Energy Space"? ;)

All set for the future: modular “Energy Space” concept

The modular “Energy Space” concept means that the new B-Class is already designed to accommodate versions with an alternative drive: appropriate interfaces in the body shell enable the main floor panel to be modified and a step to be produced for the versions with alternative drive. An underfloor compartment covering part of the area under the rear bench seat offers space for alternative energy accumulators.
http://www.germancarforum.com/commu...ercedes-benz-b-class.39060/page-4#post-532205

Autoweek reports Mercedes-Benz will offer their B-Class in the U.S. with Tesla propulsion.

The magazine says their source at the German automaker confirms plans for a B-Class electric-only vehicle. While Tesla already provides battery packs for the battery-powered Smart ForTwo, the B-Class EV will reportedly have Tesla batteries, motor and other components. U.S. residents should be able to procure one sometime in 2014.
http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/new-mercedes-ev-powered-by-tesla.44387/
 
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Just saw this car being tested at A-MuS TV, at the Deutsche Welle (I didn't understand anything, obviously). It amaze me how little body roll it shows, seems to have a wonderful chasis. Still too bussy/fuzzy exterior for my taste and rear door opening is ridiculous formed.

Regards!
 
Mercedes-Benz A-Class overall verdict (TOP GEAR.uk)

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Additional Info

  • Our buying tip
If you're looking for a snappy rival to the BMW 1-Series, look elsewhere; this is a superbly built, cosseting little hatch. Lovely.
  • Comfort

    In the cabin, you're isolated from the outside world to an astonishing degree. Road and wind noise are near non-existent, the A-Class hushing along like a far bigger, pricier machine. Bumps are absorbed expertly and it's easy to devour the miles. Very, very quiet.
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  • Performance

    We mainly drove the mid-range A200 CDI, a 1.8-litre diesel, with 136bhp. We kept running into the rev limiter - not to squeeze every last drop, but because it's so quiet inside. Later, and this is very Good News, there'll be a 330-odd bhp AMG version dubbed the A45 AMG. That'll have four-wheel-drive.
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  • Cool

    Looks good in the real world, and there's lots of design going on around the new A. The 'baby Mercedes' bit might make you feel a bit small fish when you pull up next to a S65 AMG, mind.
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  • Quality

    Feels like it's built to modern Merc standards in the latest versions, so after a few years in the wilderness, it is back in business.
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  • Handling

    With multi-link rear suspension and quick, accurate steering, the A-Class is a nicely balanced thing to chuck down a country road, but the front tyres run out of grip quickly and the whole experience is a touch remote. Still, we'd venture it's more natural and involving than the new Audi A3.
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  • Practicality

    It isn't as practical as the blocky old A-Class. The rear seats are just about acceptable for six-footers - just about - and boot space is compromised by the big light clusters. But, there's always the B-Class for that type of thing.
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  • Running costs

    The diesels should offer low mpgs and emissions; the super frugal A180 CDI manages 98g/km if you spec it with the six-speed manual.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/mercedes-benz/a-class/verdict
 
Note difference between A250 AMG Sport Line and A250 Sport. ;)

2012 Mercedes-Benz A-Class

Third Time Is Absolutely A Charm For Entry-Level Merc

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By Matt Davis

You are looking at what is likely the most important Mercedes-Benz passenger car since the old 190 turned into the C-Class"Baby Benz" back in 1993. And the United States and Canada won't get it, at least not in this hatchback configuration we have just tested extensively in Slovenia.

The big message coming from Mercedes, however, is that the newA-Class is categorically not to be referred to as a baby anything. (We wish them good luck in enforcing this mandate.) The attitude is aggressive and "Attack Mode" in nature, clearly showing how tired Mercedes is of being known as the less exciting, more mild mannered German brand.

The thing is, that reputation is well earned and the brand has embraced it for quite some time with real success. But now it's time to bust out of the current normal and cater to the kids with expendable cash in pocket.

Since 1997, the world has lived through two generations of A-Class, one of the most utterly bland four-wheeled semi-premium small cars ever formulated. And since the 190/C-Class went all upmarket in the early '00s, Mercedes has had no true competitor – at least not a very cool one – in a premium small car segment anywhere on Earth where it sells cars. And, boy, have they needed it.

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This new A-Class compact car, known internally as W176, is so far beyond those previous two generations that the stunned effect of its first impression almost has us forgetting they ever happened. And Mercedes really likes this sentiment, probably because it's something they surely think but could never say.


Stylish hatchbacks and compacts are breeding like plankton these days, but we've been convinced of the conquering power of the W176 right from our first viewing of it on the show stand at theGeneva Motor Show this past March. That show version was an A 250 Sport with AMG-caressed chassis, wheels and dynamics, and we tested this trim here in Slovania on a circuit laid out at an airfield. Most of our time, however, was spent in the higher volume A 250 with AMG package treatment (the red one seen in our pictures), admittedly more of a cosmetic affair than the zestier Sport.

As is the norm, Mercedes' current plans in North America for the A-Class are being kept hidden. Leading intelligence suggests we'll get a four-door trunked version in 2014 called the CLA based on the Concept Style Coupe shown this past April at the Beijing Motor Show. In any case, why would intelligent Mercedes-Benz not bring us something cool based on the new A-Class and leave all the small premium car profits in the U.S. and Canada to Mini, Volkswagen, Audi, and soon the Japanese? Competing to win is in their blood.

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Compared to a current Audi A3 five-door, the new A-Class hatch is exactly the same length at 168.9 inches, has a 4.8-inch longer wheelbase, is an inch wider and has a roof that is four tenths of an inch higher off the ground. Cargo capacity in the A3 ranges from 19.5 to 39.0 cubic feet, while the A-Class rates between 12.1 and 40.1 cu ft.

The parallels between the Audi A3 and the Mercedes stumble a bit when we turn to the engine on which we concentrated most of our time, the updated 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder previously reserved for the Mercedes B-Class. Horsepower for the A 250 is 208 at 5,500 rpm and torque is rated at 258 pound-feet from 1,200 up to 4,000 rpm, while the 2.0-liter TFSI in the A3 reads 197 hp from 5,100 to 6,000 revs and 207 lb-ft of torque from 1,700 to 5,000 revs. As these impressive numbers hint, this upgraded 2.0-liter from Mercedes was a great mill to play with for our two days in former northern Yugoslavia.

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This can get confusing, so read closely. The Jupiter Red model we are featuring is an A 250 with the AMG Sport Line package that includes the sport suspension, while the sturdier Cirrus white car on the track test is the A 250 Sport with chassis tuned by AMG, plus new throttle and transmission mapping. Whereas the red car was pushable through the extremely dynamic remote mountain two-lanes, it is not thoroughly engineered to put up with such treatment. The latter (white) is definitely geared better for hot hatch credibility and can do nearly all the things we wanted the A 250 AMG Sport Line car to do.

All general performance numbers are identical between the two cars here, even matching acceleration to 62 miles per hour (100 kmh) in an estimated 6.6 seconds. The A 250 Sport gets an AMG-specific lowered performance suspension, an AMG-created front axle, higher threshold ESP settings, snappier shifts from the seven-speed automated dual-clutch gearbox and perforated brake discs all around for greater initial brake response. Then there's the hearty sound of its sport-tuned exhaust.

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Despite the expected looser feel in all those tight turns on public roads, however, the A 250 Sport (the red one) more than held its own, handling much like the competing Audi A3 sans Quattro thanks to the extra torque that helped it out of curves. The AMG Sport Line sport suspension settings are nicely balanced from the factory, even during aggressive weight shifts, and by themselves, they erase any driving memories we had of the timid A-Class models of yore. The direct steer system also works overtime in bringing this trim of A-Class up to date with competitors, and the package's 18-inch wheels and Goodyear Eagle F1 tires – 225/40 R18 92W – support dynamic driving sufficiently, though though the A 250 Sport's wider 19-inch rubber did it all noticeably better.

No matter which A-Class family of cars come to North America in the future, the all-new six-speed manual gearbox is not in the plans for us. This is a Mercedes-in-America thing, and it's really too bad. We diced around in a couple lower trim cars and changed gears with this unit ad infinitum, and never once did we feel an imprecise shift. The throw of the lever is just right. It's a particular pity since the seven-speed automated dual-clutch can get clunky and slow at times, and the manual mode has a tendency to be overridden frequently by full-auto mode if you're not paying attention closely enough.

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Elsewhere inside our A 250 with AMG treatment, there are the silver sport dials with fluorescent red needles, supportive sport seats wrapped in synthetic leather with cling fabric inserts, and the carbon-fiber look veneer on the dashboard. The comfort and support provided for both front and rear passengers, plus the substantial acoustic isolation of the cabin, help make the A-Class passenger cell feel as fine as the top trim A3 and much better than BMW's overly kitsch Mini lineup. Due to the much longer wheelbase and heightened roof, rear passengers also benefit from an impressive increase in knee and headroom. This is also why the basic cargo room with all seatbacks in place suffers somewhat, but one must choose one's priorities in a compact design like this. Only perhaps the new Volvo V40 hatch comes close to matching this passenger roominess.

Standard on all A-Class cars at launch is Collision Prevention Assist, a system the operates via sensors and cameras to issue visual and audio signals when an object ahead is picked up in your path while driving speeds between 20 and 155 miles per hour. If the object is deemed stationary as you continue forward at 45 mph or less, the signals issued are even more emphatic to get your attention. If you're really close to the object and above 10 mph, your braking can be increased by the optional adaptive brake boost assist. We tested all of this on another part of the airport tarmac and it works according to plan.

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In one more feature to reflect the intentions of the new A-Class, the optional COMAND Online onboard system hooks up your smartphone, iPod, etc. to the car's on-dash screen. It's essentially the Mercedes version of what everyone else is doing, and it's full-featured, intuitive, and you can tie in to a whole series of apps that enhance your loving relationship with your hip new Mercedes.

Were the A 250 to come to the States at the time of its October European launch, the base pricing for us would probably start at around $28,500, not only to compete squarely with the 2.0 TFSI Audi A3, but also to reflect the added go and more ample standard equipment.

If the chief goal were to lower the average age and broaden the field of A-Class buyer, and Mercedes buyer in general, then this A-Class is destined for success. In the meantime, Mercedes has also finally given us the small car they should have done back in the late 1990s, and they've done it well.

Now for that A 45 AMG, please.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/08/21/2012-mercedes-a-class-first-drive-review/#continued

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Didn't know where to post this. Thought about starting a new thread about A45 First drives but then decided to post it in here. Feel free to move it mods :)

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1210_mercedes_benz_a45_amg_prototype/

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From our October, 2012 issue/ By Georg Kacher/ Photos by Tom Salt
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Mercedes-Benz will likely charge into the American-market compact-luxury party in 2014, several years tardy but with no shortage of enthusiasm. The incursion kicks off with the swoopy CLA-class sedan and will eventually include a sub-GLK crossover and an electrified B-class. The company's U.S. stewards are also considering the A-class hatchback as a fourth small offering, but the car on these pages is significant even if Americans never have a chance to buy one. This A45 AMG prototype packs the same hardware that will power the CLA45 AMG sedan that arrives in U.S. dealerships in 2014.
We could hardly have picked a worse day for our first encounter with the A-class on steroids. From the start, the rain is pouring down on the scantily disguised, white A45 AMG, which returned only this morning from the torture chamber known as the Nordschleife. R&D chief Tobias Moers slides his short and wiry frame behind the squared-off steering wheel, pulls the red seatbelt tight, adjusts the mirrors, and hits the start button. From the passenger seat, I look over his right shoulder to see that the speedometer readout expires at 320 kph (199 mph) and the tach is redlined at 6200 rpm. The rest of the dashboard is hidden by a coarsely cut piece of camouflage. Even at idle speed, the 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinder sounds like no other A-class powerplant. As we pull out of the factory, the direct-injected unit emits a hungry growl that is duly amplified by a sound tube that connects the engine bay to the center stack.
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Moers takes no time at all to find the limit of adhesion as I grope for the nonexistent grab handle, eyes wide open, mouth O-shaped, feet firmly planted against the firewall. As we time-warp through Germany's green landscape, Moers talks about his pet project. "After years of dealing with rear-wheel-drive cars, the A-class was something totally different, something I did not look forward to at all in the beginning. Five doors, a gutless four-cylinder engine, terminal understeer -- you can imagine the thoughts that crossed my mind. But I soon realized that this was a unique opportunity to rewrite the rules, to set new standards and eclipse the competition. From day one, I wanted this car to better the BMW 1-series M coupe."
Such potent competition spurred Moers to pump up the four-cylinder's output to extreme levels: 350 hp and 332 lb-ft of torque. Code-named M133, the AMG engine is a modified version of the unit fitted to the A250 Sport, but apart from the 1991-cc displacement and the cylinder block, almost every part is new. There are now two radiators instead of one, the intercooler and the variable-vane turbocharger are larger, and the reengineered exhaust boasts four chrome tips as well as an optional full-volume mode. Although the numbers aren't yet final, the AMG car is expected to accelerate to 62 mph in 4.6 seconds, and the electronically limited top speed of 155 mph can be stretched to 175 mph with an optional performance package.
The most significant game changer in the new A-class is its specially tuned 4Matic four-wheel-drive system. In the A45, it channels 60 percent of the twist action to the rear wheels, thereby reducing torque steer and understeer through slow first- or second-gear bends. This rear-wheel bias is particularly obvious with stability control off, when power oversteer can be induced quite easily, at least on drenched blacktop. Unlike the BMW 1-series M, which assumes sideways antics at the mere mention of the word "corner," the A45 handles in a more sophisticated and diversified manner. "Controllability is the word I was looking for," says Moers, dialing in just enough lock to complete a very subtle four-wheel drift.
Also new are tauter springs, firmer fixed-rate dampers, meatier antiroll bars, Brembo brakes, a wider track, and more substantial 235/35YR-19 tires. The A45 is equipped with a unique sport steering system based on the steering of lesser A-class models but with firmer bushings. The reinforced seven-speed dual-clutch automatic is masterminded by a reprogrammed black box, which ensures faster shift times and more dynamic shift patterns.
"We have done a lot of work to make this car more drivable than its competitors," states Moers as he swings the prototype back toward Affalterbach, the wipers still on full speed and the passenger's blood pressure still on alert. "Although the definitive setup is balanced and safe, you still get an amazing depth of feedback and information with the full sensation of speed." This rare fluency of motion is evident from the passenger seat. The A45 AMG is not only very fast, it also is a remarkably interactive companion. Instead of fighting the driver, the road, and the laws of physics, the most desirable A-class knows more about pace and poise than many self-appointed sports cars. If Mercedes does indeed decide to bring the A-class to the United States, it would be smart to start with this version. After all, speed trumps size.
The Specs
On sale: 2014
Price: $50,000 (est.)
Engine: 2.0L turbo I-4, 350 hp, 332 lb-ft
Drive: 4-wheel
Fuel Mileage: 19/28 mpg (est.)
 

Mercedes-Benz

Mercedes-Benz Group AG is headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany. Established in 1926, Mercedes-Benz Group produces consumer luxury vehicles and light commercial vehicles badged as Mercedes-Benz, Mercedes-AMG, and Mercedes-Maybach. Its origin lies in Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft's 1901 Mercedes and Carl Benz's 1886 Benz Patent-Motorwagen, which is widely regarded as the first internal combustion engine in a self-propelled automobile. The slogan for the brand is "the best or nothing".
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