Comparison tests MB S-Class vs Audi A8 vs BMW 7 series review


I swear Mercedes boys are really angry people and take everything personally instead of having constructive arguments on why you disapprove you would rather throw insults and attack the poster and not the opinion. Read Rolf’s replies his the only one out of the MB gang who had a constructive argument the rest of you behave like wild dogs.

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What have you provided in the way of a constructive argument? Every single post from you reads like a child. Stunning this, stunning that. BMW is the best and will be the best that there ever will be. I mean that is clueless fanboyism at it's worst and that is why you get the reaction you get here. There are plenty of BMW advocates that I and other staunch Mercedes fans get along with just fine, because they don't post such empty rhetoric. You kept posting the same thing over and over when no one agreed with it (again like a robot) only to make it worse. I already disproved you ridiculous assertion about the 7-Series aging better than the S-Class and I said it BEFORE ROLF did. You can't accept it so it appears to me you're the one with the problem here. You live in your own little BMW world and it's probably all just on paper.

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Stop entertaining this guy and I promise you he will become irrelevant and dormant on this forum. He is only ever active on this forum when there’s arguments. I can’t see his posts so it doesnt matter what he says, so there’s no point in you getting offended on my behalf. He is dying for my attention so don’t inadvertently give it to him by replying on his post directed to me.

Not trying to tell you what to do my friend and I hope it’s not coming off as such, please stop replying and let him look like a raving lunatic having conversations with himself.

Utter delusion. How do you know anything about what I'm posting if I'm on your ignore list? I have perfectly reasonable and respectful discussions with other people on this forum. Even Klier, sometimes. I contribute when I can for the good of the forum. I make useful posts, and I have verifiable experience. Just have a look at my ratings for proof. If I'm able to do this with some people, yet with you I don't, then maybe you should have a look at how YOU act on the forum? You seed discourse and malcontent, and the sooner you realise this the better.

I can't get over your wildly crazy obsession with this poor man. It's even worse than you and me in the worst days.

He's worse than you ever were.
 
@CrunchSlaughtered have you also considered the E90 interior without iDrive? My car comes without iDrive and it's a pretty classic and clean BMW interior. And I still like it.
Um, Klier, you are aware that the E90 was like the only BMW (certainly the only 3-series) that doesn't have a driver-focussed dashboard? Nice car, but the interior was so boring. Classic is very kind. Well built though!
 
I wonder what would have happened to the luxury car world if Mercedes had decided to bring out a production version of the 1981 Auto 2000 concept. It was certainly a striking but controversial design exterior with a hitech interior for the time. It would have changed things forever introducing the more versatile styled saloon/coupe/fastback.

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I guess if Doc Brown needed a roomier time machine with a bit more class, this would have fit the bill perfectly.
 
I wonder what would have happened to the luxury car world if Mercedes had decided to bring out a production version of the 1981 Auto 2000 concept. It was certainly a striking but controversial design exterior with a hitech interior for the time. It would have changed things forever introducing the more versatile styled saloon/coupe/fastback.


If I didn't see the emblem, I'd swear that was an Audi.

Likes and the older interior that've aged well (or have the potential to age well):
- Most BMW interiors except for the "Bangle era" interiors. For it to be a proper BMW interior, the center stack better cant towards the driver. I found many elements within the E65/66 interesting and quirky, particularly the wood trim.

- Merc interiors of the '80s and '90s. There was a Teutonic severity that signified that this car was all-business and would not put up with bullshit. It's like the dominatrix of interiors. (i joke, I joke....kinda). Merc's current interior language has a nice mix of business and playful except the C-class really annoys me....how could you make what is otherwise a tidy, clean interior and then stick what looks like a portable Garmin screen right on top? I cannot wrap my head around the logic of doing something so egregious. Thinking about it makes me angry.

- Audi.... favorite is the C6 A6 and 1st gen TT. The A6 usurped BMW's design language at the time when the interiors were Bangle'd up. There was a Spock-like logic to the interior. The same applies to the 1st gen Q7 and A4 of that era. The first gen TT was the best kind of whimsy. Audi A8 D3 and D4 were very well-crafted. Also like both gen R8. Still on the fence about new A8, A7, and Q8 interior...need to check out in person, but I have a feeling having 3 big screens will age them in 10 years when that era's tech trounces it.


Dislikes or interiors that don't age well:
- Bangle era BMW's...unless you like dash humps and have a plastic fetish, not a fan. As mentioned, I personally find the E65 interesting, but that's more to it's high quirk factor than anything.

- W220, W211, W204, W203, 2nd gen SLK, R230, etc. These haven't aged well because the material wasn't as good as before and the curvy elements made it feel slightly amateurish, and considering this was a M-B, it felt even more amateurish. It's like when bonehead keeps making a mistake, that's expected. But when a perfectionist makes an error, it's all the more glaring.

- Audis....the previous gen A4, A6 and A7....that screen pisses me off. At least in the A8, it retracts. Audi interiors prior to the C6 A6....just looked and felt like a fancier VW interior.

General take on today's interiors: I am of the thought most of the interiors in today's cars will not age well, mostly because the interiors have a screens as the dominating feature. If I were forced to choose which will age the best, I'd say BMW. And no, it's not based on any bias, it's more because BMW's interior design language, with the exception of the Bangle cars, are a continued evolution. There's a level of recognition not seen with the other two. I also say, there's generally less fussiness, but that's probably more my own bias talking. Historically, Mercedes seems to alternate with an interior that's more straightforward Teutonic and then something more sensual. You can pinpoint what era that interior comes from. Since my lack of patience is kicking in, I don't feel like articulating any thoughts regarding Audi's interior language.
 
Um, Klier, you are aware that the E90 was like the only BMW (certainly the only 3-series) that doesn't have a driver-focussed dashboard? Nice car, but the interior was so boring. Classic is very kind. Well built though!

Actually, the E65 and the E60/E61 did not have it either. From the same generation of models, only the E63/E64 had the driver-oriented center console.

One proof from my car, an E60 LCI:
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Actually, the E65 and the E60/E61 did not have it either. From the same generation of models, only the E63/E64 had the driver-oriented center console.

One proof from my car, an E60 LCI:
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Correct, I actually thought of that after I posted. I disliked all those Bangle-generation interiors, didn't like the exteriors either! I loved the F30 when it came out because it was a return to the driver-focussed cockpit we all love in the 3-series.
 
Cool, but why didn’t you say that to your other friends as well ? Empty banter didn’t begin with Klier and I, but of course you wouldn’t see that.

I did, a few posts back.
My point was continuing sail away with the subject.

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Wrong thread.
 
Correct, I actually thought of that after I posted. I disliked all those Bangle-generation interiors, didn't like the exteriors either! I loved the F30 when it came out because it was a return to the driver-focussed cockpit we all love in the 3-series.

To be honest, they are intriguing (in a positive way) and they are also a complete departure of what was the BMW interior styling before they appeared. However, all the interiors from the Bangle era are still recognizable as BMW. There are some distinctive lines to set them apart, but in the end, they all sport a classic BMW signature. And they are impecably executed - the materials and finishes are top notch, even by today's standards. My 525xd still looks like a brand new car - both inside and outside, although it was born 9 years ago (among the last E60 LCI units produced). ;)
 
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