Rumors Mazda developing petrol and diesel Skyactiv-X inline-6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HELL YEAH!
To any Japanese car fans, this is just frickin' awesome. A legit inline-six in one of the few Japanese carmakers that makes consistently good looking cars. I was having an absolutely crummy, abysmal day, but this was a nice pleasant surprise. I hope the car gods make it so and this doesn't get cancelled!


Jalopnik:
Mazda Challenges BMW and Mercedes, Shames Toyota With Development of New Straight-Six Skyactiv-X Engine


https://jalopnik .com/mazda-challenges-bmw-and-mercedes-shames-toyota-with-d-1834636620

According to the March 2019 fiscal year results report, Mazda is apparently developing an all-new straight-six engine with Skyactiv-X technology, joining BMW, Mercedes, and Jaguar with renewed commitment to the best engine you can put in a car, and making Toyota look a little silly.

In this presentation titled Fiscal Year 2019 March Results on Mazda’s investor website, page 25 details some future product plans for the company going forward, including expanding on its fantastic Kodo design language, developing a mild-hybrid system and its own electric vehicle technology, and then seemingly out of nowhere casually lists a Skyactiv-X straight-six, as well as a Skyactiv-D straight-six diesel.

As far as I can tell, Mazda hasn’t mentioned this in last year’s fiscal year report, nor when we drove the 2.0-liter Skyactiv-X prototype, nor at either of the two US Mazda 3 launch events, so it’s news to us.

The straight-six engine is on a bit of a comeback, with Mercedes developing a new modular engine which can be paired with a mile hybrid setup, Jaguar developing its own similar straight-six mild hybrid setup, BMW sticking to its straight-six roots, and then Toyota borrowing BMW’s engine (and a lot more) for the new Supra.
Just this week, Tetsuya Tada, chief engineer of the new Supra, told Jalopnik it would have been a logistical nightmare for Toyota to develop its own new straight-six for the Supra, involving years of development, a new factory, and would have driven up the cost of the car.

That’s why it’s so surprising, and kind of entertaining, for Mazda to come along and quietly announce its developing a straight-six, as it’s a much smaller car company than Toyota.

Mazda made a bunch of news last year with its 2.0-liter four-cylinder Skyactiv-X engine, and I’ll let our own David Tracy explain how that works:

The Skyactiv-X engine works by using a process that Mazda calls Spark Controlled Compression Ignition—essentially a spark plug lighting off a localized rich mixture of fuel and air to create a fireball that compresses the lean mixture throughout the rest of the cylinder, yielding spontaneous ignition. It’s a fascinating concept that promises the efficiency of a diesel engine.

In Europe, where the Skactiv-X is due to go on sale next month, the four-cylinder version of the engine makes about 178 horsepower and 163 lb-ft of torque, and it’s paired with the GT and GT Plus trims of the new Mazda 3.

A Skyactiv-X straight-six would likely be packaged with Mazda’s large-architecture cars, including a next-generation Mazda 6 and its lineup of larger crossovers, though that’s purely speculation.

Jalopnik reached out to Mazda just to make sure we weren’t seeing things and a spokesperson confirmed the development of both straight-sixes. The statement reads, “We’re excited to bring these powertrains to our future vehicles as we continue on our path to premium. We know our fans will be yearning for additional details, however specific models, performance figures and market rollout will be disclosed at an appropriate time.”

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Good news I guess, but like Mercedes, 20 years too late. By the time this engine is done, gasoline and diesel engines will not even be allowed anymore in many cities.

Amsterdam is going to ban all gasoline and diesel cars by 2020. They're the first, but many will follow.

Anyways, if the cars they put this eninge in have FWD, I don't even see the point.
 
Good news I guess, but like Mercedes, 20 years too late. By the time this engine is done, gasoline and diesel engines will not even be allowed anymore in many cities.

Amsterdam is going to ban all gasoline and diesel cars by 2020. They're the first, but many will follow.

Anyways, if the cars they put this eninge in have FWD, I don't even see the point.[/...
It's written longitudinal layout so it must be rwd based awd (almost impossible to have the longitudinal layout, a fwd and a streight six together)
 
Good news I guess, but like Mercedes, 20 years too late. By the time this engine is done, gasoline and diesel engines will not even be allowed anymore in many cities.

Amsterdam is going to ban all gasoline and diesel cars by 2020. They're the first, but many will follow.

Anyways, if the cars they put this eninge in have FWD, I don't even see the point.[/...

How was Mercedes too late? They needed one last brand new generation of gas and diesel engines to see them through the next decade. Many markets will not be banning internal combustion engines for far longer than Amsterdam and Benz will still need to serve them even as emissions regulations get tighter. The I6 shares architecture with the I4 anyways, which allows for more manufacturing flexibility.

As far as Mazda is concerned, this is just plain interesting. There is an immediate need for these engines (especially in the U.S.) if Mazda wants to be taken seriously as a premium automaker but...this seems like a massive investment for a small brand. I'll be interested to see if any other manufacturer ends of using these engines as I can't imagine Mazda is going to be able to go at this along long term.
 
How was Mercedes too late? They needed one last brand new generation of gas and diesel engines to see them through the next decade. Many markets will not be banning internal combustion engines for far longer than Amsterdam and Benz will still need to serve them even as emissions regulations get tighter. The I6 shares architecture with the I4 anyways, w...

If it's a legit good lump, maybe Toyota may further collaborate with Mazda and intrduce this engine in Lexuses.

I agree though the timing is a bit odd to invest in a new engine when electrification is the rage. That said, I would love to drive an inline-6 RWD-based Mazda with Kodo design philosophy.
 
This was their planned Amati luxury division about 30 years ago. Great news.

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How was Mercedes too late?

Because they have decided to create this great engine in the winter of ICE.
They should have had it in the summer and autumn, but instead they had a crappy V6. Oh well, what gives...

It's written longitudinal layout so it must be rwd based awd (almost impossible to have the longitudinal layout, a fwd and a streight six together)

Yes, that makes sense.

Best of luck to Mazda!
 

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Mazda Motor Corporation is a Japanese multinational automotive manufacturer headquartered in Fuchū, Hiroshima, Japan. The company was founded on January 30, 1920, as Toyo Cork Kogyo Co., Ltd., a cork-making factory, by Jujiro Matsuda. It changed its name to Toyo Kogyo Co., Ltd. in 1927 and started producing vehicles in 1931. The name Mazda was derived from Ahura Mazda, the god of harmony, intelligence, and wisdom in Zoroastrianism.
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