M5Boarddotcom: Ferrari 458 Italia vs Ferrari 599 GTO 50 - 300 km/h
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Don't think so. That is how all M5boarddotcom videos work where there is no honking. They both wait until one car nails it to signal the start and the other nails it right after.
It was a long 50 - 300 km/h race and just a jump in the beginning does not result in the GTO opening up such a big gap as the 458 Italia continued to lose ground at a steady rate well after he nailed the throttle.
The 599 GTO clearly from the race is a lot quicker in a straight line and impressive as the 100 HP difference shows.
Sorry to disagree here but when the cars in question accelerate like the devil then a slight delay from one can exaggerate the superior speed of the other which is what happens in F1 and other forms of motorsport. Here's an example of what I mean, as they approach the main straight Hamilton has wait a fraction longer before he puts the power down by which point the lead car is gone.
I'm not saying the GTO isn't quicker, just that the gap might not be as big as suggested in that video.
I'm not saying the GTO isn't quicker, just that the gap might not be as big as suggested in that video.
Agreed. Looks apples to oranges to me.
If the 599 GTO did jump (I don't believe it did since all of M5boarddotcom races start exactly like that without honks), it added another car length or a maximum of 1.5 car lengths to the overall gap, but after a couple of tenths of a second, the 458 Italia would have started falling back regardless.
I think the 599 GTO can give Aventador run for its money in a straight line race.
Because there is no need for bench racing and doing theoratical comparisons based on data that cannot be directly compared when there is a perfect proof of a head to head race in front.
Two words 100 HP
Common sense tells me, if it were any different, I would expect something wrong with the 599 GTO.
Whatever floats your boat. As usual, you make little to no sense at all. The video accurately reflects the difference between two cars with 100 HP difference.
p.s. The 458 Italia makes 562 HP, not 570 HP when measured in imperial HP and the 599 GTO makes 670 PS or 661 HP. Apples to apples.
^whats no sense at all, the diminishing returns of a 90hp difference as the comparison of two cars power increases??????? Or the fact that I don't disagree that it should be quicker???? Or that one video shouldn't be using as undeniable proof????
All sound very sensible to me.
All sound very sensible to me.
Just about everything.
Sunny
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^No, you are wrong. Outside of traction limitation or hitting the top speed there is no diminishing return on HP. Everything else being equal (mass, drag, gearing, shape of the torque curve, radius of the wheel, driveline losses...), acceleration is directly proportional to the power. So the difference in acceleration between a car making 100 and another making 200 HP and the diffrence in acceleration between a car making 500 and one making 600HP will be the same. And after racing for say 10 secs the difference in the distance between the 2 pairs of cars will also be the same. I could provide the math behind it, but a. I doubt it would make any sense to you (not that it is complicated or anything). b. you would make some excuse that is not what you meant, so it would be pointless any way.
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