Tarek
Cornering Kingpin
You're the first to dislike android that much and u are using one of the best handests to sport it..was it Eclair?..did u try to upgrade to Froyo?
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You're the first to dislike android that much and u are using one of the best handests to sport it..was it Eclair?..did u try to upgrade to Froyo?
Padi
Headlight Hero
What ever you do, don't buy this phone, my sisters boyfriend had this phone and it got many severe problems already the first week. He got his money back and bought the HTC Desire Z instead, he's been happy since then, no problems.
Mark
Staff member
LOL I try, but I keep getting busy working in the backgroundNice comeback!
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NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
Thank you all for your comments, they are very interesting and informative, so it is a big help for me.
I think I am going to drop iphone4 off the list because it is on the most expensive plan, a 4 to 6 weeks waiting list, the glass screen and backing is very fragile (people seems to confuse hard scratch resistance with toughness), and the fact that everyone has an iphone. It was a mildly scary experience to be in the train completely surrounded by people using the iphone, ipod and ipad on several occasions, and everyone in my office has one.
Next off the list is the Nokia N8, I played around with it at the shops, it feels nice and solid but I just don't find the user interface attractive, and it seems to be slower to load and browse than other phones.
I was considering the Sony X10 before but after reading your comments I won't.
So now it is down to HTC vs Samsung.
I have been with vodafone for the past 2 years, they are average at best, I have had random connection issues from time to time, sms delayed by 5 to 6 hours or more, and no connection for up to 2 weeks, only to read about vodafone's failed network from the newspaper (great customer service there).
Those $45 infinite plan offered by vodafone does not include the monthly payment for the phone, so it isn't as cheap as they make it to be.
Telstra has the best coverage but I am not willing to pay for their prices. After a bit of asking around, the feedback I got is that everyone pretty much hated their network provider, be it Optus, Virgin, 3(now combine with voda). So I might just stick with vodafone again, or join TPG mobile, their plans are dirt cheap, but their service might be worse that the major providers.
I got a feeling our phone deals are no where as competitive as the overseas market.
So what kind of plans are you guys with and how much do you guys have to pay?
I think I am going to drop iphone4 off the list because it is on the most expensive plan, a 4 to 6 weeks waiting list, the glass screen and backing is very fragile (people seems to confuse hard scratch resistance with toughness), and the fact that everyone has an iphone. It was a mildly scary experience to be in the train completely surrounded by people using the iphone, ipod and ipad on several occasions, and everyone in my office has one.
Next off the list is the Nokia N8, I played around with it at the shops, it feels nice and solid but I just don't find the user interface attractive, and it seems to be slower to load and browse than other phones.
I was considering the Sony X10 before but after reading your comments I won't.
So now it is down to HTC vs Samsung.
I have been with vodafone for the past 2 years, they are average at best, I have had random connection issues from time to time, sms delayed by 5 to 6 hours or more, and no connection for up to 2 weeks, only to read about vodafone's failed network from the newspaper (great customer service there).
Those $45 infinite plan offered by vodafone does not include the monthly payment for the phone, so it isn't as cheap as they make it to be.
Telstra has the best coverage but I am not willing to pay for their prices. After a bit of asking around, the feedback I got is that everyone pretty much hated their network provider, be it Optus, Virgin, 3(now combine with voda). So I might just stick with vodafone again, or join TPG mobile, their plans are dirt cheap, but their service might be worse that the major providers.
I got a feeling our phone deals are no where as competitive as the overseas market.
So what kind of plans are you guys with and how much do you guys have to pay?
Top Secret
Autobahn Adventurer
Well, if it's down to HTC vs. Samsung, here are the choices you're faced with:
Vodafone:
HTC Desire HD/Samsung Galaxy S:
Optus:
Samsung Galaxy S:
Telstra:
HTC Desire:
Obviously Vodafone presents the best value, but as you mentioned, their network is pretty terrible. Similar story with Optus. I'm currently with them with my iPhone 3G and I can't even get reception in my own house.
As the phrase goes, you get what you pay for. Telstra is far and away the best provider with a reliable network connection where ever you go and it's only $20 more per month. I'm going to be swapping to Telstra pre-paid once my contract ends next month and moving into a 24-month plan when the next-generation iPhone arrives mid-next year.
Vodafone:
HTC Desire HD/Samsung Galaxy S:
- $45 + $15 handset repayments p/month which includes 1GB of data + infinite calls and texts.
- $65 + $5 handset repayments p/month which has 2GB of data + infinite calls and texts.
Optus:
Samsung Galaxy S:
- $59 p/month with $700 worth of calls and texts + 2GB of data.
Telstra:
HTC Desire:
- $79 p/month with $750 worth of calls and texts + 2GB of data.
Obviously Vodafone presents the best value, but as you mentioned, their network is pretty terrible. Similar story with Optus. I'm currently with them with my iPhone 3G and I can't even get reception in my own house.
As the phrase goes, you get what you pay for. Telstra is far and away the best provider with a reliable network connection where ever you go and it's only $20 more per month. I'm going to be swapping to Telstra pre-paid once my contract ends next month and moving into a 24-month plan when the next-generation iPhone arrives mid-next year.
Cashmere
RPM Ruler
Im running 2.1 (not sure whether its froyo/eclair). Below are some of the pro's/cons I can think of (firstly with the handset and then with the OS):
Samsung Galaxy S
+ Huge AMOLED Screen, startling contrast and sharp colours
+ Thin
+ Camera / HD Recording / Front facing camera
+ Ergonomic feel with rear hump for good grip
+ Loud stereo speaker
- Cheap & plastic feel
- Poor quality mic
- Keyboard (Swype is a farce), and even in normal mode it’s a bit clumsy.
- Poor specs (see below)
- Terrible battery life (daily charge)
- AMOLED screen has great contrast but poor resolution when zooming into pics
Android 2.1
+ True Multi-tasking
+ Flash support
+ Easily customizable ring tones/message tones
+ Animated wallpapers
- Android market is inferior in comparison to the Apple store in almost every way.
- Apps and the OS lack refinement
- Missed Call / SMS / Email notification bar
- Current hardware is still under powered to handle multi tasking. Phone gets very sluggish and slow. Perhaps this problem will be rectified with the forthcoming tegra/dual core CPU’s
There were plenty more but these are just some of the points that spring to my mind at the moment. Android is gaining ground at remarkable pace. I think it needs another year for them to iron out the small differences.
Alwing
Tarmac Traveler
I would suggest you to have a look at the new Windows 7 mobile phones like the Samsung Omnia 7.
Personally I really like new Windows UI, it's easy, fast, neat and very smooth.
It gives you the same polished feel and response of an iphone.
I think it will meet all if not most of your needs you want in a mobile phone.
This review of the phone pretty much covers the whole Windows 7 experience and the Samsung Omnia 7.
This is actually the phone I would've gotten if it was available sooner.
The phone I have now is an iphone 4. I was also turned off by the fact that everyone has it. But now I have it I can you tell you why by my own experience.
Some phones may offer better specs, more features and possibilities but what the iphone does it does it is very well in 95% of the time and is actually usable in my opinion. And that's where it counts.
The IOS is fast, responsive, accessible and easy to use.
From my experience the smoothness of everything enhances the feel and pleasure of using the phone.
This feeling can be best described as playing games like GTA, Gran Turismo on 15 fps vs 30 fps. While 15 fps is playable but 30 fps gives you a much better experience.
You will notice that in scrolling webpages, PDF or WORD documents, browsing pictures and menu's etc. It's just more responsive, refined and polished. In the end this all adds up in the pleasure of use.
I believe Windows 7 OS would provide the same experience.
The Windows 7 phones from Samsung and HTC are actually already available in Europe. Not sure about the availability in Australia but these phones might be worth to take a look at.
Personally I really like new Windows UI, it's easy, fast, neat and very smooth.
It gives you the same polished feel and response of an iphone.
I think it will meet all if not most of your needs you want in a mobile phone.
This review of the phone pretty much covers the whole Windows 7 experience and the Samsung Omnia 7.
This is actually the phone I would've gotten if it was available sooner.
The phone I have now is an iphone 4. I was also turned off by the fact that everyone has it. But now I have it I can you tell you why by my own experience.
Some phones may offer better specs, more features and possibilities but what the iphone does it does it is very well in 95% of the time and is actually usable in my opinion. And that's where it counts.
The IOS is fast, responsive, accessible and easy to use.
From my experience the smoothness of everything enhances the feel and pleasure of using the phone.
This feeling can be best described as playing games like GTA, Gran Turismo on 15 fps vs 30 fps. While 15 fps is playable but 30 fps gives you a much better experience.
You will notice that in scrolling webpages, PDF or WORD documents, browsing pictures and menu's etc. It's just more responsive, refined and polished. In the end this all adds up in the pleasure of use.
I believe Windows 7 OS would provide the same experience.
The Windows 7 phones from Samsung and HTC are actually already available in Europe. Not sure about the availability in Australia but these phones might be worth to take a look at.
I just did a bit of reading about the Samsung Omnia 7, it seems to receive a lot of very positive reviews, so now I will take that into consideration.
We are starting to get some Window 7 phones in Australia, we have the HTC Trophy 7, and the Samsung, and some LG window 7 phone. I spoke to the people at the phone shop, they said they prefer Android because the apps are free or cheaper. I haven't had a smart phone before so I have no idea how it all works and how do you pay for the apps.
We are starting to get some Window 7 phones in Australia, we have the HTC Trophy 7, and the Samsung, and some LG window 7 phone. I spoke to the people at the phone shop, they said they prefer Android because the apps are free or cheaper. I haven't had a smart phone before so I have no idea how it all works and how do you pay for the apps.
I am thinking of buying an unlocked phone outright and join TPG with their $15 per month BYO plan, which has $330 credit for TPG to Any Network Cap, and 1 G download per month, with no contract. The only worry is TPG mobile is still a relatively unknown provider, I am using their internet already, they are alright, but it does drop out from time to time.
NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
One thing I will say about the Galaxy S is this.
While the screen is gorgeous, the camera has no flash and it has no front facing camera. I know the front facing camera might not be a big deal yet, but if you get a phone with it then you will be future proofing yourself.
While the screen is gorgeous, the camera has no flash and it has no front facing camera. I know the front facing camera might not be a big deal yet, but if you get a phone with it then you will be future proofing yourself.
Cashmere
RPM Ruler
go0gle
Tarmac Traveler
Nokia N8 without any hesitation. It is a very capable mobile computer, with an amazing camera on top of that. Galaxy S can't take pics in the dark.. this is what the N8 can do,
Here is a quick video I took showing how quick the new Symbian 3 is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrYg1dBjbWw
Some pics, both are taken with my n8..
one in the dark
http://s2.ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/3006342.html
one before sunset, the picture is straight from the phone...no photoshop or anything like that
http://s1.ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2991273.html
Here is a quick video I took showing how quick the new Symbian 3 is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrYg1dBjbWw
Some pics, both are taken with my n8..
one in the dark
http://s2.ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/3006342.html
one before sunset, the picture is straight from the phone...no photoshop or anything like that
http://s1.ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/2991273.html
Cashmere
RPM Ruler
In the camera department, the N8 sure does outdo the competition....by a huge margin too.
Only thing, is im not sure of the entire experience. The last Nokia I had (5MP) would take 5 seconds just to load the camera app and thereafter another 3 seconds to snap the pics after hitting the trigger. Im hoping this lag has also been reduced signifcantly.
Im curious to see how newcomers WP7 & MeeGo are going to infiltrate this immensely competitive market. For WP7 its going to take alot more then just office integration to win people over.....something far more revolutionary then what they have shown us thus far.
Only thing, is im not sure of the entire experience. The last Nokia I had (5MP) would take 5 seconds just to load the camera app and thereafter another 3 seconds to snap the pics after hitting the trigger. Im hoping this lag has also been reduced signifcantly.
Im curious to see how newcomers WP7 & MeeGo are going to infiltrate this immensely competitive market. For WP7 its going to take alot more then just office integration to win people over.....something far more revolutionary then what they have shown us thus far.
NarutoRamen
Kraftwagen König
mine does
Only select models of the Galaxy S series got the front facing camera, not all of them. In the US, I believe we got shafted.
Well guys I think the time as arrived for me to pick a new phone now that the manufactures have started to release the new generation of phones. The top of my list is the HTC Sensation, it seems to do everything well enough, and it is not too expensive. A lot of the review said the Samsung Galaxy S II is slightly better, but it feels cheap to hold and it is about $100 AUD or more expensive than the HTC. I am not sure what LG has got to offer because it isn't as popular as the other brand in Australia. Any thoughts guys? For those members in America, how much does it cost to buy the HTC or the Samsung phone out right?
Padi
Headlight Hero
I have many friends who have a HTC and I have only heard bad things about them, f.e. bad antenna, bad microphone, many smaller faults et.c. I've heard a lot of good things about Samsung and I all of my Nokia:s have been great. So if you want a phone that really works as a phone (calling and texting) and is otherwise of great quality (doesn't break of almost anything) then I'd suggest a Nokia but if you want apps or otherwise a phone that is more entertaining than working I'd suggest the Samsung. So if you ask me HTC and Sony Ericsson are out of the question.
Interesting to hear about your friends' experiences, my friends' HTC phones have been fine so far. I have used Nokia phones all my life, I think it is time to use something different. The Samsung seems to be a good all rounder phone with less gimmick than others.
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