Hot! Jaguar: What's Next?

[Matski]

Could it be that we may be seeing quite a bit of this following the official presentation and first independant driving impressions ?

I think there's every chance it'll be a really good car, at the same time I think there's a good chance that not many people will buy them.

 

[Swissbob]

What we perceive as good depends on what we see before or after at.

The Type 1 will be sold in the same showroom as the full fat Range Rover. This is a HUGE problem. Someone will go in to Jaguar to take a look in the car. They sit in it and find it cool.

Then their wife says let’s go take a look at the Range Rover ten steps away: OMG there is so much space in here, it’s so light and airy, and I feel like I am sitting on a throne.

If the jaguar didn’t share showroom with range rovers, it would be easier to sell. I think the Type 01 will be like the Aston Martin Rapid or Fisker Karma. You need to truly want it in order to buy it. Those cars are stunning but too big to be sporty coupes but too claustropic and cramped to be practical 4 seater car. I have sat in both.

Maybe Jaguar should also make an SUV variant of it.

Well said, you nailed it.

I guess in the UK there’s one reason to prefer the Jaguar, the insurance costs.

Otherwise the Range Rover is by far the better car.

 

[Merc1]

Why would this be a problem now when Jaguar cars have been sharing a showroom with Land Rover products for years? How did they ever sell and F Types if buyers are so lost that they don’t know if they want a SUV or a car?

M

 

[Centurion]

Why would this be a problem now when Jaguar cars have been sharing a showroom with Land Rover products for years? How did they ever sell and F Types if buyers are so lost that they don’t know if they want a SUV or a car?

M

The F-Type is different. That’s a 2 seater convertible. Nothing like the Type 01 which is big, has 5 doors and will be priced like a full fat Range Rover or a Range Rover Sport SV.

 

[Merc1]

The F-Type is different. That’s a 2 seater convertible. Nothing like the Type 01 which is big, has 5 doors and will be priced like a full fat Range Rover or a Range Rover Sport SV.

The Type 01 is no different, it's a CAR. Not a SUV just like all the other CARS that Jaguar has sold beside Range Rovers for years. What buyer is so clueless and out of it that they sit in a low slung GT and expect it to be as airy as or have the seating position of a SUV? It's a car just like any other car Jaguar has sold next to Land Rover products. They either want a car or not, the Type 01 is no different. If anything the Type 01 will have a problem being an EV, not because it's a car. This imaginary buyer can discern between a 2-seater convertible, but they're confused about a 4-door GT vs a SUV?

M

 

[Centurion]

The Type 01 is no different, it's a CAR. Not a SUV just like all the other CARS that Jaguar has sold beside Range Rovers for years. What buyer is so clueless and out of it that they sit in a low slung GT and expect it to be as airy as or have the seating position of a SUV? It's a car just like any other car Jaguar has sold next to Land Rover products. They either want a car or not, the Type 01 is no different. If anything the Type 01 will have a problem being an EV, not because it's a car. This imaginary buyer can discern between a 2-seater convertible, but they're confused about a 4-door GT vs a SUV?

M

In the last full year(2023) of production, Jaguar sold 3,400 F-Type. That's out of 64,000 cars. Land Rover sold 356,000.

Even in households where the man is the bread winner, the woman often have the greatest say in what car ends up being purchased. Obviously this is irrelevant to the very rich who can afford 3-10 cars.

Selling the Type 01 ten steps away from popular SUVs by another make, would be like French restaurant selling Confit de canard or Roquefort Winter Salad inside a fast food chain.

Cannibalisation a reason why many fancy restaurants don't have pizza or burgers on the menu.

However, Jaguar might sell the Type 01 differently. This could include opening up temporary show rooms, more personal selling or partnering with golf courses or fashion brands. The Chinese brands have done this in the UK, they have 1-2 cars in empty store units inside malls.

 

[KiwiRob]

Definitely curious to see how this turns out. Still think the fact it's a sedan san rear window is a terrible, claustrophobic idea for the rear passengers.

How often as a rear seat passenger do you turn around to look out the rear window? I was in a Polestar 4 taxi two weeks ago, I didn't notice the rear window was missing at all.

 

[Merc1]

In the last full year(2023) of production, Jaguar sold 3,400 F-Type. That's out of 64,000 cars. Land Rover sold 356,000.

Even in households where the man is the bread winner, the woman often have the greatest say in what car ends up being purchased. Obviously this is irrelevant to the very rich who can afford 3-10 cars.

Selling the Type 01 ten steps away from popular SUVs by another make, would be like French restaurant selling Confit de canard or Roquefort Winter Salad inside a fast food chain.

Cannibalisation a reason why many fancy restaurants don't have pizza or burgers on the menu.

However, Jaguar might sell the Type 01 differently. This could include opening up temporary show rooms, more personal selling or partnering with golf courses or fashion brands. The Chinese brands have done this in the UK, they have 1-2 cars in empty store units inside malls.

You always make up a crisis or a problem, then when it’s called out for being nonsense you post a bunch of nothing that makes no sense and proves nothing. Just like here. We already know that SUVs are more popular. That is all that your irrelevant rambling post proves, yet no one argued this. Nor was anyone arguing which spouse chooses the car. I doubt you even know what the point of that mess was because it proves nothing other than you being confused.

M

 

[Design FIRST]

How often as a rear seat passenger do you turn around to look out the rear window? I was in a Polestar 4 taxi two weeks ago, I didn't notice the rear window was missing at all.

Visiting the Polestar Space in Hamburg several months ago, I spent a bit of time in a Polestar 4. I was truly astonished how well the mini-camera-lens rearview imagery actually worked. Far better than a "real" rear window placed on the very flat slope of the rear deck area, actually.

 

[Design FIRST]

...and back to the Type 01 EV GT sedan:

Won't Jaguar be pursuing a form of curation model ? Brand exclusive small studios, strategically located, with presentation space for no more than 2 vehicles. With a separate "consultation space" environment featuring "a very modern, high-tech yet welcoming, elegant ambience" and large state-of-the-art, highest resolution configuration monitors. Of course, test drives per appointment only and possibly a service offering a "bring to your home" test car delivery/pick up. It appears that Jaguar may be undertaking a determined effort that ensures that the "Type 01 Experience" is in no way diluted or adultrated.

 

[Matski]

Yeah since Jaguar are saying they're pitching more against Bentley, the 01 could well be out of the price range of most Land Rover customers anyway.

 

[Centurion]

My guess is that long term, some JLR and Stellansis will be based on Chinese models.

Land Rover and Jeep could soon become a joint 4x4 force | Auto Express

Stellantis is looking to JLR for its latest partnership, and it could work out very well for both companies

www.autoexpress.co.uk

 

[SKY]

My guess is that long term, some JLR and Stellansis will be based on Chinese models.

Land Rover and Jeep could soon become a joint 4x4 force | Auto Express

Stellantis is looking to JLR for its latest partnership, and it could work out very well for both companies

www.autoexpress.co.uk

Just when JLR could not get any worse…

Stellantis products are the worst!

 

[McLaren64TR]

They must have decided to destroy themselves.

 

[Design FIRST]

Simply odd.

 

[Centurion]

That's what I was saying earlier. Likely as practical in the back as the Fisker Karma and Aston Martin Rapid.

Both of which don't make exit or entry easy for rear passengers.

But all of this will be fine is the car is drop dead stunning from every angle.

 

[SCOTT27]

Could also be the basis for a new Maserati?
Now they are about to set sail on Stellantis.

 

[KiwiRob]

Simply odd.

If you look at this as a large 2+2 coupe with easier access to the back seat for occasional passengers it's not odd.

 

[Design FIRST]

If you look at this as a large 2+2 coupe with easier access to the back seat for occasional passengers it's not odd.

Well..it's certainly not like we haven't been there before, I suppose...

 

[SNB]

Well..it's certainly not like we haven't been there before, I suppose...

They really should’ve made it with coach doors like a Rolls-Royce or a Purosangue.