Report Hyundai is maybe going to produce N 2025 VGT based supercar


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Yes, Hyundai is considering a supercar inspired by its 'Vision N' concept
The former boss of M is now in charge of 'N'. TG chats to Hyundai’s new performance arm chief


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“Our future model line-up will include performance-oriented and race track-capable cars that will be full of energy,” explains Hyundai’s Albert Biermann. His official title is head of performance development at the Korean carmaker, but you might know him better as the former head of BMW’s M Division.

Biermann moved to Hyundai late last year. And in his new role as the head of performance development and high performance vehicle division at Hyundai – the ‘N’ sub-brand which we saw at Frankfurt – Biermann told Top Gear that his vision for high performance Hyundais will yield its first fruit in two year’s time, and could one day feature a proper, fully-fledged supercar.

When asked about a potential halo supercar to spearhead Hyundai’s N campaign – like the BMW M1 did way back when – Biermann told TG: “Yes. When you look at the Vision N 2025 on our stand at Frankfurt, that’s our vision point. At some point the future we will get closer to that, yes.

“We have to be ready for everything between now and the Vision N 2025. It’s a long road to go there, but we are going,” he added.

That name also hints at a potential time frame, too, so don’t hold your breath. For the time being, it’s all baby steps, but Biermann and his team are plotting an ambitious journey for Hyundai’s new performance arm.

“We don’t define our ‘N’ brand by horsepower or acceleration times,” he told us. “First of all it has to be fun to drive – the ‘thrill of driving’, as some people say. The way you feel in the car, the response, the way it talks to you… you can enjoy it.

“We don’t go in for having two horsepower more than someone else, we don’t care about that,” he said. “But it has to be track capable. It needs substance. We have our own expertise in high strength steel, and the torsional stiffness of our cars is growing which is great for our NVH and refinement. I don’t care about a few kg more. For the N sub brand cars, this is what we need, a strong basis.”


Biermann didn’t disclose which will be the first Hyundai to wear the N performance badge, but did note that it won’t be applied across the entire range. “We will not do the N procedure on all of the cars,” he told TG. “It depends on where the customer is heading.”

So, there’ll be N cars that will sit in the middle of ‘established high performance cars’ (he wouldn’t say which ones), and others elsewhere. “Once they’ve driven [an N car], it will be clear that though the horsepower might not be there, the fun is there. That’s all that counts.”

The N experience, Biermann said, is about ‘educating’ the customers. “Our customers are just starting out in high performance. We have to educate and grow them, and we have to guide them into our way of performance.”

That performance could eventually tackle the likes of BMW’s M Division, Merc’s AMG and Nismo… but likely for less cash. “The recipe works for many in a different way,” Biermann explained, “but we will have high performance on a more affordable level for a broader audience, not just for the very few that can spend so much money. I mean, how much horsepower do you really need to have fun?”

There’ll also be a greater crossover from Hyundai’s WRC programme, too. “As you know WRC is already on a pretty high level of performance,” he said, “but the physics are pretty much the same, and working in a motorsport environment is very good training and education for our engineers. We’re definitely using our rally history and activity to learn more.”

Not that Biermann needs to learn much: during his 31-year tenure at BMW – during which he took over as head of M in 2008 – he oversaw projects including the old V8 M3 and 1M Coupe, and ushered in the turbocharged era of BMW’s M cars.

“We cannot go too wild and too crazy for the first step,” he tells TG. “Jump one is a warm up. Then there’s more to come.”

The countdown to that wonderfully ludicrous N 2025 is one. Roll on 2017, and the first of the ‘N’ cars. Tell us below what Herr Biermann should do to the Hyundai range…

source:http://www.topgear.com/car-news/fra...dering-supercar-inspired-its-vision-n-concept
 

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Wow.

Ironically, I believe that this has a better chance of happening than the BMW/McLaren supercar.

1.) Hyundai must have offered Biermann a buttload of money. Also the opportunity to really stretch his wings out whereas BMW seems more riske-averse.

2.) An observation: I find it interesting that Hyundai and Kia are more willing to look outside of South Korea for talent whereas Japanese companies are more reluctant to do that. It's either that, or they are more keen to advertise that they got ________ from ________ (fill in with either BMW, Audi, or M-B).

3.) Hyundai will do anything to be part of the big leagues, and they have the capital and resources to make it happen. More power to them.
 
Wow.

Ironically, I believe that this has a better chance of happening than the BMW/McLaren supercar.

1.) Hyundai must have offered Biermann a buttload of money. Also the opportunity to really stretch his wings out whereas BMW seems more riske-averse.

2.) An observation: I find it interesting that Hyundai and Kia are more willing to look outside of South Korea for talent whereas Japanese companies are more reluctant to do that. It's either that, or they are more keen to advertise that they got ________ from ________ (fill in with either BMW, Audi, or M-B).

3.) Hyundai will do anything to be part of the big leagues, and they have the capital and resources to make it happen. More power to them.

kia is also working on something interesting:

Yes, Kia is building a 400bhp four-door super-saloon
Rear-drive GT is heading to production, confirms Kia's European design boss


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It’s been four years since Kia revealed the GT Concept, a 400-odd bhp, V6, RWD super saloon with suicide doors. And it’s been two years since Kia’s VP of overseas marketing, Soon-Nam Lee, confirmed to TG.com that the Concept GT would make series production by the end of 2016, or early 2017 at the latest.

And Good News, people of the Internet - it’s still happening. TG caught up with Kia’s head of European design, Gregory Guillaume, at this year’s Frankfurt Motor Show, who confirmed the GT is in development.

“It’s a completely new vehicle for us,” said Guillaume, “not based on any existing platform, so you do need a certain amount of time, after the decision was taken, to go ahead with the car. You need to do it right, it’s going to be our first step in that direction so we don’t want to make any mistakes.”

Guillaume admits Kia isn’t likely to sell masses of GTs in Europe. However, he expects it to sell well in America, where “customers are much more open-minded. We do expect to do big numbers in the US. It will be a very important car for us.”

He also promises the production car will be “as true as possible to the concept”, and that size-wise, the GT will not have a direct competitor. “You could expect that a car like the GT would fit in between an A5or A7, a 4 Gran Coupe and a 6 Gran Coupe,” he says.


It’ll be some time before we see the GT in production trim, so for now performance Kia fans (if they indeed exist) will have to content themselves with the new Optima GT (a quick-ish Optima with 245bhp or thereabouts). And there will be other GT models, says Guillaume…

But what of the other Kia concept everyone loved, the GT4 Stinger? “Kia is a brand that likes to surprise. And you have to say if you look at the GT Concept and the Stinger, the GT is actually a bigger surprise,” says Guillaume.

“They had been saying for years that Kia would be the perfect brand to do a Miata [Mazda MX-5], or something like that. An affordable, really fun little car. If you’re going to do one first, I’d rather pick the bigger surprise. But let’s see…”

source: http://www.topgear.com/car-news/frankfurt-motor-show/yes-kia-building-400bhp-four-door-super-saloon
 
We knew the Koreans were coming. Actually IMHO good I say! New competition, new ideas, fresh thinking and new money. This will all translate into new competition between manufacturers! Something similar happened last night when Japan, against all odds beat South-Africa's Springbok Rugby team in their Rugby World Cup clash. The latter my home team is one of the Big Three dominant teams... Below translation in English: During the week I eat sushi : Weekends I eat Springbuck. :D

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Wow. Just wow

My first thought was we don't need a Hyundai supercar to prove anything.

After reading the post I'm happy Hyundai thinks the same. I would gladly buy a Hyundai N3 :D if it's a true driver's car. Not a sports car, a driver's car.
Cheap, 5 year warranty and fun. What else does one need?? I can only think of great aftermarket support.

Korean is the new Japanese
 

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The Hyundai Motor Company is a South Korean multinational automotive manufacturer headquartered in Seoul, South Korea, founded in 1967. Currently, the company owns 33.88 percent of Kia Corporation and fully owns two marques including its luxury cars subsidiary, Genesis, and their electric vehicle Ioniq. The three brands altogether make up the Hyundai Motor Group.
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