TopspeedPT
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F1 values just went down. Gordon Murray said it was crap 
GMA GMA T.50
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GMA is a British maker founded in 2017 by Gordon Murray. It builds analog, V12-powered hypercars like the T.50 and T.33. Official: GMA
KiwiRob
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It’s probably closer to his original concept for the F1 than the production F1 was. He originally wanted Honda to build him a 4l v10/v12, he’s now got Cosworth to build him that engine and I’ve read he always wanted to make a fan car but the tech wasn’t available until now.
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People, people...
My initial, snarky and entirely misplaced cynicism dispensed with, if you're a fan of driving dynamics and utterly dedicated & focused engineering, you have to watch the various video presentations of the GMA T50. Especially the Carfection one with Henry and Gordon just shooting the breeze.
This car is so special even I don't have words to sufficiently describe it. Absolutely jaw-dropping.
My initial, snarky and entirely misplaced cynicism dispensed with, if you're a fan of driving dynamics and utterly dedicated & focused engineering, you have to watch the various video presentations of the GMA T50. Especially the Carfection one with Henry and Gordon just shooting the breeze.
This car is so special even I don't have words to sufficiently describe it. Absolutely jaw-dropping.
LaArtist
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Looks pretty shitty tbh, front is super weak.
But it’s to good to not be floored by.
Can’t wait to see what it can do.
There is still time to address the front from not until 2022.
Also sweet pagani huayra like exposed transmission tunnel and active aero flaps
But it’s to good to not be floored by.
Can’t wait to see what it can do.
There is still time to address the front from not until 2022.
Also sweet pagani huayra like exposed transmission tunnel and active aero flaps
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It can’t be kerbweight if it weighs 957 kg dry. Maybe it is with fluids and without gasoline?
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An incredible car for sure, but the design is a little weak, not very modern. Especially the front is tame.
Bridster
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Yeah, apparently with fluids but no fuel. From many magazine tests I've figured that cars gain about 120kg on top their quoted dry weight, sometimes even up to 200kg (the Avendator is quoted at being 1575kg dry, but in magazine tests comes up regularly between 1750-1800kg. But most are around 120kg. I am not sure how exactly whichever magazines are weighing them, with how much fuel, or whether it is including driver or not, but it's never 29kg, or close to it. So either the manufacturer quoted dry weight is in almost all cases extremely optimistic, or there is something else going on. Even if you added full weight of 80l of fuel, that adds only 60kg, so at worst, the T.50 would weigh 1046kg. Which could be the case... guess we'll see.
Porsche Guy
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This is not the production version. This is a display model. Notice that they didn't fire up the engine? I doubt there's anything in the engine bay below the valve cover.
Expect details to change with production.
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Half tank of fuel + hefty driver = 1116 kg
Full tank of fuel + lean driver = 1121 kg
Let's not split hairs as to whether the plus fluids weight includes fuel or not. The weight of this thing is just unbelievable.
Same footprint as a Boxster GTS 4.0, twice as many cylinders, nearly 40% more RPM, 190 kW more power, 500 kg less and God knows what kind of short transmission ratio torque multiplication. It's almost unfathomable.
Full tank of fuel + lean driver = 1121 kg
Let's not split hairs as to whether the plus fluids weight includes fuel or not. The weight of this thing is just unbelievable.
Same footprint as a Boxster GTS 4.0, twice as many cylinders, nearly 40% more RPM, 190 kW more power, 500 kg less and God knows what kind of short transmission ratio torque multiplication. It's almost unfathomable.
TopspeedPT
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Harry was clearly disappointed about the blinker buttons on the steering wheel. That surprised me aswell.
Doesn't fit the "old fashioned" Gordon Murray taste in certain things.
An indicator stalk was fine and intuitive to use.
Doesn't fit the "old fashioned" Gordon Murray taste in certain things.
An indicator stalk was fine and intuitive to use.
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Basically all magazines in USA and Europe weigh the cars with full tank and without driver, so this is the norm used by almost all. I agree 986 must be with fluids but with empty tank, and kerb weight (with full tank) will then be around 1045 kg. So Murrays goal of under 1000 kg is only achieved with his peculiar way of measuring the weight.
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The launch strategy for the car could have been better. Why not do one in-depth tour of thr car instead of doing 20-50min interviews with 6-10 different. youtube channels.
Other than that the technical details of the car are glorious. I like how the active aero including the fan can be used to increase or decrease drag.
Other than that the technical details of the car are glorious. I like how the active aero including the fan can be used to increase or decrease drag.
It's best of both worlds. Once up to speed, light sports cars don't need power steering.
