First engine mods for 335i


Just an ECU update, and already 70 hp more.....:icondrool for $1200, I'd take that for sure. They don't change a single thing on the engine, just update the computer a bit. That 400 hp version sounds quite interesting too.
 
That is a very cheap way of getting power, I know it's because it has turbos and wouldn't be possible on a NA BMW engine but still!

If you are going to get this much power though, an LSD would be a must!
 
I don't know about reliability and ECU upgrades but it is certainly the cheapest way to get a good power boost at your car!
 
This is great. I think it was always given that BMW had the 335 tuned well below its actual potential, so it will be interesting to see how far this engine can be pushed within reason.

So - now the ovbious questions.
1: This will void the warrenty, right?
2: Could I "hide" this upgrade when the car is brought in for service?
3: What real consequences will this have on engine wear and tear? Could we expect a modified 335 that's driven in a reasonable manner to suffer significant premature aging because of an ECU mod?

A shame this car doesn't have an LSD. Straightline acceleration ought be just fine though.
 
Anytime someone messes with the ECU there is a chance of things going wrong. A friend of a friend had his S4 modified and then had it chipped...came home parked his car woke up in the middle of the night with his alarm going crazy and his windows going up and down like the car was possesed. The next day he tried to take the car to the dealership but the thing started stuttering on the highway and it finally gave out. He had the car towed and dealership said that it was the ECU that was screwing everything up. Plus, I've heard ECU horror stories from others as well. I'm not saying that ECU upgrade is bad, when done right its great but it carries with it a big risk and also revoked warranty ;)
 
Thanks for the story Naruto. Sounds like trouble... although an additional 75hp for just $1,300 is unbelievably tempting.
 
Osnabrueck said:
Thanks for the story Naruto. Sounds like trouble... although an additional 75hp for just $1,300 is unbelievably tempting.

You're welcome, hope you enjoyed the story. We laughed at the poor guy when it happened cuz he is our friend.:D

That's the problem...It's so cheap that some people compromise. Me personally, I would only do it on an older car such as an older A4 1.8T (i'm trying to buy right now) so that way if something goes wrong I can get it fixed anywhere and not worry about warranty but on a brand new car, it's NO-NO unless you have lots of money to burn. Like I said Earlier, it's not a certain that something will go wrong but the chance is way higher because after all, the new cars are all Technology and the ECU is it's brain. Do you really want to mess with the car's brain? Unless tuners that BMW certifies do it, I would not trust anyone else unless I was financially secure.
 
siko said:
Next step would be widening the turbos!

Now that would be the challenge. I have no doubt that one can easily get an additional 40-50 extra HP from the current configuration.
Getting anything more will require doing the following:
1. Increase the boost pressure which will entail the turbines spinning at higher speeds. The draw back here is that the efficiency-window (bandwidth) might be exceeded, rendering the turbines inefficient beyond a certain range.
2. Increasing the size of the impellers. Now widening of the Turbos, or increasing the bandwidth will require using bigger impellers & configuration. The moment you do that, you will have a bandwidth that will shift to the high end, and that inherently comes with Turbo-Lag, and other heat related issues.
This is my opinion(there are many more reasons why they went this way) on why BMW used the small blades:

1. Pratically eliminate Turbo-lag (still occurs at very low rpm, but eliminated at 1300 rpm). Small impellers require small force to spool due to the low inertia. Small impellers however gives you a low bandwidth thus the 1300-5000 rev/min range. Beyond a certain rpm the turbine will lose its efficiency- in the case of this engine, it is set at 5000 rev/min.
2. Reduce the Turbo-cooling cycle associated with impellers. Turbine blades produce very high amount of heat, and the bigger the turbine for the same revolution the higher the operating temperatures, hence you need to have a way/procedure to cool them. Because of the small nature of the configuration in the N54 engine, you can treat it like a normal engine without going through of the old rituals.

For all practical purposes, I honestly do not see many people pushing beyond 5000 rpm on sixth gear. On the N52 engine, that equates to over 130mph

Now nothing stops someone from coming up with a light-weight-heat-resistant material, that will allow engineers to use bigger blades and open the bandwidth by 1500 rpm, and simulataneously eliminate Turbo-lag. Nothing stops someone from using materials to design a variable angle impellers that push the bandwidth even further.

But right now, this is the conundrum.
 
Chonkoa, I know what you're saying. Kind of falls along the lines of reliability and warranty issues. To do what you're talking about requires a lot of labor and labor = money. So honestly, for the amount of money you will spend to get the power you desire reliabily, you can just buy the E92 M3...LOL
 
NarutoRamen said:
Chonkoa, I know what you're saying. Kind of falls along the lines of reliability and warranty issues. To do what you're talking about requires a lot of labor and labor = money. So honestly, for the amount of money you will spend to get the power you desire reliabily, you can just buy the E92 M3...LOL
Exactly my point. I doubt getting an extra 100 hp from the current configuration without major mods, and that like you mentioned equates to lots of money.
 
According to Racing Dynamics

Racing Dynamics' development of BMW's new twin-turbo motor is called the R35T, and is currently being tested in a variety of trims that are already consistently surpassing the 420Hp mark.
 

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