Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano or Mercedes SLR McLaren


Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano or Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren ?


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^Of course the auto box is excellent it's from MB;) ,after reading the EVO test of the roadster version he said that the auto is very good it only has five speeds but that is irrelevant next to it's pace:usa7uh:
from what ive heard, its better than even the other MB auto boxs.
 
I know the gearbox of the SLR is very good, fast, but it does not match the revving when downshifting, and when you stop the throttle the motor makes no noise any more, I don't like it in a sportcar...
Concerning the noise, yes, incredible. But the Ferrari too!

The 6.3 AMG is very light, even lighter than the M5 V10, so don't know why it isn't already in the SLR with a twin-turbo...
A 700+ hp SLR could be really something interesting and could justify the price, and if it has a Dual-Clutch Gearbox, it would be a killer...

Both cars are impressive; the choice is too hard I want both (and a CGT too).
 
I don't think any one complained about SLR lacking power - it's problems lies else where. Putting a more powerful engine will probably make things worse.
 
There's no doubt that the Fiorano is one of the world's most spectacular vehicles. It's able to handle, go and brake like few front-engine cars, but lest we forget, the SLR came out before the Fiorano did. Now of course, that's not to say the 599 copied the SLR in any way, but what I am trying to say is that SLR's achievements of when it first came out cannot be ignored. Sure, now-a-days the F-car might better it in most everything, but the impact of which the SLR made not only upon me, but car enthusiasts world wide mustn't be forgotten.

I remember when the SLR's Supertest first arrived; I was shocked that anything which such weight, anything with a conventional (more or less) transmission could acheive an N'Ring lap time in just 7 minutes, 52 seconds. Additionally, the braking; aerodynamics; acceleration; and handling figures further left most dumbstruck.

The time at which the SLR was released, it was a one-off. It had no peers.

All I am trying to say is that we mustn't forget the achievements which the SLR did for the supercar world.
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Anyways, that's enough of my dribble; let me continue onto the actual question of the topic.

The Fiorano is an interesting prospect. I got the chance to see one on the streets of Vancouver about a month ago now and while I was initially excited, It didn't hold my interest as long as I had hoped. When I first saw the Carrera GT, the Murcielago and even the SLR, they managed to hold my attention for a much greater deal of time.

While I think the 599 is the best Ferrari since the monstrous F40, I frankly found it starving my enthusiasm. Suffice to say, I found SLR to be the more interesting of the two vehicles.

From an interior point of view, I must admit to not being overly satisfied with either. Most definitely not a fan of the 599's actual layout and design, but have found the SLR's interior (specifically it's center console quality) to be rather awful for the price tag it wears. Perhaps though, "awful" is too harsh of a word; It's not that bad, but most certainly could have been better.

Performance: neither are lacking

Engines: The Fiorano's V12 is great, but like ree, I absolutely love that burbling and blaring supercharged V8. As Clarkson once said, "it sounds like the God of Thunder gargling nails". Furthermore, I've always had a fascination with large sums of torque (lol..) and the SLR's 5.4 litre unit, does not fail to deliver.

So, while the 599 may be the better vehicle in everyway, I must go with my heart and my heart says: "choose the SLR".


Great post Bruce. I also voted for the SLR. aside from the Ferraris engineering
I doubt it is strong as the full carbin body-frame SLR. The SLR was noted as having the strongest structure ever tested. It was also noted as being the most reliable supercar. Btw, I was blown away by the videos!!! (I can wait for the coming SLC. it will be even more of a kick in the pants)
 
The 6.3 AMG is very light, even lighter than the M5 V10, so don't know why it isn't already in the SLR with a twin-turbo...
A 700+ hp SLR could be really something interesting and could justify the price, and if it has a Dual-Clutch Gearbox, it would be a killer...

Both cars are impressive; the choice is too hard I want both (and a CGT too).

A couple of reasons I think. First off the new AMG V8 came out after the SLR. However, I'm betting the main reason is that the since the SLR has never sold up to expectations the business case for tweaking and/or re-developing a turbo variant for the SLR wasn't nearly strong enough. I'm sure if the car sold better we would have seen the new AMG V8 in some form or another and maybe even a facelift for the entire range.

The SLR is a very frustrating car for us here at Benzfan headquarters. It has never quite lived up to expectations. Sure seeing one on the street puts Mercedes-Benz ahead of any mere luxury brand in the eyes of the commom man or even the mild car enthusiast, but the rest of us know its story all too well. Still though would you believe I've never seen one the street? In a showroom yes, at the service bay at my dealer yes, but never just riding down the road. I guess that is what 450K entails.

I'll give Mercedes credit though, it seems they refuse to give up on any of their children. Both the SLR and R-Class would have been left to wither on the vine at a company like GM or Ford or even certain Japanese ones, but no they keep doing something to keep up (or drum up) some interest in them.

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I liked Bruce's post too GTA, but isn't it funny how tastes differ?

In terms of looks; I lingered for some time, admiring the SLR but when I saw the 599 GTB for the first time in the metal, the planet stopped rotating.



Sure thing martinbo! tastes differ a great deal but preception in opinion, plays the greater part in some better than others imo.

What I agree with Bruce about the SLR, is the overall design quality compared to the Ferrari 599. The design of the SLR is more powerful, more exotic and expensive looking. The details capture the eye a very good deal. The SLR would look well next to a Rolls Royce.

The Ferrari 599 doen`t quit fit the bill.

With the Ferrari it seems like something is missing. The headlights and taillights are not traditional Ferrari designs. The profile (while very nice sharp and tight) is very 1998 Toyota Supra, Z06 Corvette quality. This takes away from the exotic flavor of design quality. To me the 599 doesn`t master the "old-world" Ferrari design concept. It`s too watered down with the "Lexus" theme and we all know that doesn`t withstand the test of time. It can`t compete with SLR, Lamborghini or Porsch CTG on the exotic level.

This is of course, my opinion.
 
Good post GTA, but i'm with Martin:

I lingered for some time, admiring the SLR but when I saw the 599 GTB for the first time in the metal, the planet stopped rotating.

I saw one as well, in Italy, 2 weeks ago, it just passed beside me and i was able to get enough impression. I've also seen IRL and sat in SLR for a minute and definitely my choice is 599.

I agree with GTA that SLR has more expensive and powerful look, but for me it doesn't have the wild and raw, yet elegant feel/looks as Ferrari...:cool: Plus, the only thing in interior by Ferrari that doesn't look better than the (boring) one in SLR, is the steering wheel; nothing special in SLR as well, but better than the one in Ferrari, regardless of how functional it is...And the sound? Haha, it's hard to beat Ferrari in that area...;)

599 any day over any SLR! Thank you!

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I still don't get why the SLR isn't a hit,MB sold every and each one they made:confused::D
 
599 any day over any SLR! Thank you!

:t-cheers:


lOl, Tycoon, we all have our opinions. besides your opinion about the Ferrari isn`t it amazing how the SLR is faster! thats a torque advantage. I personally think the Ferraris` power figure is a bit dated. Supercars will very soon step up in the 700hp figure as our Super-Sedans from AMG RS and M are stepping in the upper 500hp (600hp figure.) Soon the 599 will be left in the dust by these coming supercars.
 
I still don't get why the SLR isn't a hit,MB sold every and each one they made:confused::D


We need to see some sales figures to prove this. I wouldn`t expect a car thats priced at the thick end of $500.000.00 to be a huge popular item anyway. Thats extremely expensive!
 
lOl, Tycoon, we all have our opinions. besides your opinion about the Ferrari isn`t it amazing how the SLR is faster! thats a torque advantage. I personally think the Ferraris` power figure is a bit dated. Supercars will very soon step up in the 700hp figure as our Super-Sedans from AMG RS and M are stepping in the upper 500hp (600hp figure.) Soon the 599 will be left in the dust by these coming supercars.

Yeah, sure, Mr. HP-is-everything...;):D

:t-cheers:
 
We need to see some sales figures to prove this. I wouldn`t expect a car thats priced at the thick end of $500.000.00 to be a huge popular item anyway. Thats extremely expensive!

I know that a half a mil for a car is very expensive but supercars sells like hotcakes thesedays:eusa_doh::D
 

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