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Porsche Says EU7 Emissions Regulations Will See Engines Grow In Displacement
BY Brad Anderson | Posted on May 20, 2020 0



It looks as though the Porsche 911 will eventually get a larger displacement engine in order to comply with Euro 7 emissions regulations set to come into force in 2026.

While car manufacturers have been downsizing their engines over the past decade to meet regulations, drastic changes coming as part of EU7 will see the downsizing trend grind to a halt. Why? As Porsche’s head of sports cars, Frank-Steffen Walliser, recently revealed, the new regulations will put a limit on relative power per liter of displacement.

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“In 2026, the next wave of regulations will come with EU7. This will be the worldwide toughest regulations considering emissions, especially in the spread between real driving emissions and what we see on the test benches,” Walliser told Wheels. “We will see a big change because it means for everybody, new engines and we will see bigger displacements coming back again.”



“I expect 20 percent more displacement on average for these EU7 capable engines. A lot of manufacturers will jump from four to six, from six to eight [cylinders]. The regulations are completely counterproductive to CO2 regulations, so this will go up,” he added.

Car manufacturers will be left with two options, Autoblog notes. The first will be to compromise on power while the second will be to increase engine displacement. Porsche will take the second route but as bigger engines will burn more fuel and emit more CO2, Walliser says it will need to fit catalytic converters three to four times larger than those currently used, meaning there will essentially “be a small chemical industrial factory in the car.”

“You cannot fulfil all the standards without spending fuel. It sounds crazy but it’s a technical fact at the moment,” he said.

Walliser adds that Porsche is determined to keep selling the 911 with six-cylinder engines but admitted EU7 regulators will mean it will have to design and produce an all-new engine.

When asked if this will mean the end of naturally aspirated engines, Walliser said that’s likely, though it might depend on the market.

“At the moment, we only see a turbo solution. Naturally aspirated, not really,” he said. “Now maybe you are in the right part of the world, in Australia. This is a European solution. It [naturally aspiration] could work in other parts of the world, as Australia is close to the US regulations that could work in the future.”

That means we could still have naturally aspirated engines, as Dr. Frank-Steffen Walliser, the man responsible for the 911 and 718 model series, commented the other day, stating that these units will be exclusive to the GT3 and GT3 RS.

But it won’t last forever. “There will come a day, within the next 10 years, when we have to say ‘Now this is the last of its kind [naturally aspirated engines]” said Walliser.
 
Downsizing, when drastic, can quickly hit diminishing returns. Many 1-1.2L 3 and 4 cylinder engines are only highly efficient if you drive at max 50-60mph.

As excited as I am about big engines, I don't know how relevant they will be to me in 6 years when there is wider availability of BEVs at more affordable prices.

This is excellent news for Porsche. They will be able to sell NA GT3 and GT2 RS along side battery electric Macan, Cayenne and Panamera.
 
Great news! So we downsized the engines to meet EU6 and now start upsizing again to meet EU7.
How on earth can a company ever develop a strategy to meet these totally deranged politically driven emission standards? Nevertheless, welcome back to those 2 and 2.5 liter in line 6’s ;)
 
I withdraw my criticism for Toyota and Lexus for not resorting to downsizing like everybody else. It's like Toyota and Lexus were predicting these EU shenanigans.
 
This is great if true. Can we get a new BMW V10 and a new AMG V12 please lol?

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You know I was being sarcastic right ;)
Anyway @Merc1 , this will excite you. I recently met a restaurant owner in DC that has a E63S wagon in matte black that has a renntech tune 800hp. He is going to let me have a go once this
Corona is done and has promised to hook me up with his dealership so that I can get killer lease / finance deals in AMGs when I get into another car after the markets open up.. will now seriously consider an E63s facelift W213
 
I don’t think the gravity of this was understood.

The government decides the future of our cars. It’s not the customer. Not the OEM. It’s mostly politics. People with close to 0 car and engineering knowledge make a framework for manufacturers to live in. It’s disappointing and the reason why the industry is screwed. (I’m being harsh, we’re not the only industry that’s being screwed by politics).

Walliser is making a point with this. It’s damn sad that the public uses OEMs as scapegoats when complaining about what product is developed and sold.
 
It’s disappointing and the reason why the industry is screwed.
Just the opposite. Politics and industry are together. The one which is screwed is the nature. They implement measures, that are convenied for the car manufacturers, which in real world are far useless. If they really cared there would be no cars above 200 ps first. Or if there are, then pay three times the price since you want to drive a powerful car and shit on nature. There is much that can be done better, but the facking automotive lobby is ruling at least in Europe and mainly in Germany.
 
Simply my novice opinion:

The "electric train" is picking up speed and rapid progress in battery technologies as well as infrastructural requirements will eventually make ICEs' redundant. In the mid-to-longer term, EU7 emissions regs will be rendered irrelevant. VAG, and more recently M-B, have made their commitment to BEV technologies unmistakably clear. It is not solely a matter of perceived ecological sustainability, but a matter of pragmatic potential in terms of tech, packaging and design.
 
We shouldn’t underestimate the huge investment, time and effort it takes in resources (batteries etc.) and infrastructure before we have every new car produced as a BEV. Despite the need for lower emissions BEV’s are still a niche product so for the next 10-20 years you cannot do without ICE, whatever politicans and BElieVers may tell you. Let’s not even talk about what public finances will look like post Covid-19 as mass adoption will not happen without government incentives.
 
Just the opposite. Politics and industry are t...
I used to agree with you but have changed my opinion.

Do you think that Walliser would make these comments if he saw a rosy future? The German government used to be very connected to the car industry, google Winterkorn and Merkel, but after the diesel scandal this changed quite a lot.
 
Too bad none of these German executives has balls as big Elon Musk's to tell the European Union bureaucrats to f**k off and stop interfering. Elon can come off as a douchebag sometimes, but at least he doesn't seem to take crap from no one. That's why people love him.
 
I used to agree with you but have changed my opin...

In fact, voices that would applaud a major recalibration of Germanys' current economic model are becoming more plentiful by the day. COVID-19 is considered by many to be a massive wake-up call, one common opinion being that Germany must launch a more diversified, highest modern technology oriented and less quasi-monocultural (highly automotive industry weighted) industrial/commercial initiative. Dwelling in the status quo is no longer an option. This encompasses, among other things, artificial intelligence, electric mobility, biotechnologies and sustainable energy research, development and marketing. A massive feat at hand.
 
Too bad none of these German executives has balls as big Elon Musk's to tell the European Union bureaucrats to f**k off and stop interfering. Elon can come off as a douchebag sometimes, but at least he doesn't seem to crap from no one. That's why people love him

Yeah.. Just like Jim Jones.

On a serious note, I'd welcome the continuation of I6's, V10's and V12's... I'd still love to see a V16 in a Rolls-Royce... but... I think it's fair to say that even without being pushed towards an electric future, the internal combustion engine can only be developed so much further before diminishing returns makes it too difficult to keep justifying the expense of developing them. With the impetus from the electronics industry to develop battery chemistry it was only ever going to be a matter of time before EV's became viable, so I see a point in the future where BEV's are far more common without the need to legislate them in.

Governments need to work on getting people out of cars at all, not just into greener cars.
 
Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. If there's a hell, then it's full of European Union bureaucrats.
 

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