Drove a new E extensively today, thoughts & Review....


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Posted this in another Forum but will Post it here in case anyone is interested::

Looks like I've confirmed my thoughts that M-B's designers may be lacking these days IMO, but their Engineers are the BEST out there, period.

I drove the gorgeously color-coded "Demo model" today, here's my take:

First off I must say this was like the 3rd Dealership Staff/Salesman I talked to who do not like the car at all (many comments of "looks like other cars/Japanese cars", seem to be a trend), which is funny (and commendable) as you'd think they'd want to grease me up with compliments toward the car.

Exterior wise everyone here knows my take as I've said it a bajillion times. It was parked next to a W211 again, and we were all just standing there saying how it does not make the W211 look dated at all, it just looks like a whole different car. Also, to add once again, I can't get over how those headlights are the ugliest most disproportionate things (they don't make any sense together and have no flow) I've seen on an M-B's face IMO.

Interior had a BEAUTIFUL color combo (are they going to sell these Demo models?). As I've said before, IMO it lacks a bit of the elegance and refinement of the W211's interior, and just seems like there's more plastic overall, and feels "harder", and some of the little tid-bits a weirdo like me would notice look downgraded and cost cut. But all in all it's still a nice interior, and feels a tad stronger, and more bomb-proof than the W211's.

As for the drive: WOW WOW. Like I guessed, it feels exactly like a W211 (any owners of the 211 will feel right at home when they start moving it), but does about everything better. The handling is precise and feels perfect, it is completely responsive. The ride is actually a bit floatier and less stiff/bouncy than my E (with the AMG Package/Suspension), and it seems to have a bit more body roll I think, but due to the steering and great chassis, it feels more confident in the handling department. The Tests done on it seem to show the W211 and W212 putting down the same slalom speeds and lateral G's it seems though.

It was an E350, but felt like it had a bit more pick-up than my car (Salesman said it is geared differently?), and the Braking had a better feel and seemed more confident than mine (it is a new car VS used car though), although tests seem to show both cars stop at the exact same distance.

The interior makes for a nice environment, it doesn't feel like your driving as "fancy" as you are in a W211 IMO, and again, it does feel a bit "harder" here and there IMO, but it feels a bit more solid, confident, etc. and does the job perfectly.

To close, I just can't stress how amazing this car drives, I love how the W211 drives, and this just capitalizes further on what that is. It's just as quiet, if not a teeny bit more, I could have driven the car for 10 hours straight and felt great. NO vibrations or rattles (can't say the same about the 211, which has a couple here or there) but I'll withhold judgment until the W212's break in and get some miles on them. M-B might have IMO messed up the styling of the E, but they proved that no one can touch them in how to Engineer a car. It does exactly what it's supposed, and takes care of you perfectly, it doesn't overstep its bounds or give you any big "wow" factor, but the fact that it does what it does so flawlessly, is worth more than any "wow" you might get with fancier cars, when it comes to living with it daily.

When I saw it sitting next to the W211 I think the term "Beauty And The Beast" summed it up nicely. The W211 is such a svelte and pretty car, and the W212 is such a broad, simple/plain jane, clunky, ungraceful, sharp-edged and relatively aggressive, strong, brute look of a car.... I know some of those descriptions don't go together, but somehow the car fits all of them. I think that pretty much sums up what both are going after. Although when you get behind the wheel of the new E, that's where it really dazzles you.

They weren't Selling the car so no Lease Rates or anything like that yet.

Oh, BTW, they had a Coupe there, it looked AWFUL IMO, I actually started to like it before, but it just doesn't look good IMO, pretty boring all in all. I guess I now like the Sedan better than it.
 
Thanks for the review. I need to go check one out now.

M
 
No prob and thanks.

Yeah, you'll be very impressed by how solid it does everything. This is one of those cars that I'd lust to own as a "DD", i.e something that I don't personally find pretty enough to pamper the heck out of, but can enjoy the Safest, and finest engineered car out there to rack up the miles on.
 
And.....I think that is exactly what Mercedes was going for with this car. A return to traditional values. People will get over the look. Lets face looks don't kill a car in most cases, otherwise certain BMWs, Lexuses, MBs and Cadillacs would have never sold. Someone is going to like it just as much as the next one doesn't, but where the car absolutely has to impress everyone is behind the wheel and with the ownership experience....things that Mercedes needed to work on coming out of the S(crimp)p era. I can't wait to see the car now.


M
 
That's true. When I was talking with the Salesman we were saying how 99% of E owners aren't car enthusiasts by any means, they just have the money to spend and want the newest, Warrantied, etc. M-B out there that will treat them right.

Personally I require my cars to be like humans in the sense of attraction, I need to be able to look at it and marvel at its beauty, love the lines, etc. and don't really want to accept something that has to grow on me, I love when I first lay eyes on a car and it blows me away. But yeah, I/we will all get used to it, and after a couple years that will be the "M-B look" of current. I just don't think I'll be as big a fan of their line as I've been in the last 6 or so years, since they had this previous design language. But it does look like they're going back to their true ideals, i.e going function over form, I just will miss the pretty cars they were making the generations before (minus the 80's, which were far more form over function).
 
I pretty much agree with you, despite the fact that I find it very good-looking. And I never drove it.

But I agree, the interior is bit less refined, but feels more solid. It has an 80's feel about it (not only the squared looks but how everything feels safe and reassuring).

This looks, and feels, like an old-school Benz, even more so than the W204. And I love it. Concerning the looks, I already prefer it to the W211.

I think MB did a very great job with this car, just like with the 221 and 204.
 
Agreed. M-B did do a good job with it. Subjectively we'll all have our opinions, and M-B design team (Wagener) may not be designing the cars I truly love anymore, and I do like the "fancyness" of the W211. But I guess it'll go back to the 80's theme for M-B. You want fancy and sleek, buy a BMW, you want something strong and durable that doesn't look like it requires much pampering, buy an M-B.

I have my stylistic and refinement issues here and there with the other new cars they're putting out, but there's no doubt they're coming out more durable and more trouble free.
 
Ok....I went down the street to look at the new Es. Right away I can tell you I don't like the Coupe. It was a based E350, no AMG pack or big wheels....bland and the rear window thingy stood out. I don't like it at all.

The sedan however is the new thing to have. It was the same one as in last pics in the E-Class pic thread. The same launch model every dealer got. It looks much bigger than before too. Interior is really nice as is the exterior styling. I do like the coupe's seats better though. I need to drive the sedan next time. I really like though and I was real worried about the look, but it looks pretty darn good.


M
 
Ok....I went down the street to look at the new Es. Right away I can tell you I don't like the Coupe. It was a based E350, no AMG pack or big wheels....bland and the rear window thingy stood out. I don't like it at all.

M

I just stumbled across the coupe today at the dealership and I have to say I was pretty impressed. It's incredibly aggressive looking. Even in 'base' trim it looked great. You don't even notice the double fogs for a while.

The interior looked and felt phenomenal too. Even the plastic facing on the radio didn't bother me too much :)

The car actually didn't disappoint.
:t-cheers:
 
SEC...:eye8::eye8::eye8: Stunning... Such a gorgeous car...

There'll be one in my garage as soon as I can afford it. A 500 SEC however (this number resonates more in Europe, it has a whole history behind it, which is why the 550 are called 500 here).

I'd take one over a C207 any day.
However, they're not the most fuel-efficient cars ever. Even if I'm sure you can move it with 12l/100 if you're reasonable (my old SLC, with only 3 gears, needs 14.5l and I'm not restraining myself).

So for the difference in price, you can drive all your life in the SEC it'd still be cheaper than buying and running a C207!
 
I agree about the Coupe, I thought I'd like it more than the Sedan.... It looked REALLY bad and super boring to me at the Dealership, maybe it requires the AMG Package to look decent. I have to say I haven't been moved by any Coupe I've seen in person unfortunately.

I drove my W211 today for the first time in a week, I must say I really do enjoy the driving environment in my car a bit more than the newer one (again the whole "fancy" and refinement thing), and I think they are about equally quiet, however mine has a little interior trim rattle/vibration here and there, but again, the W212 was brand new so I don't think it's a fair comparison (although I'll wager you won't hear much).

Either way, again, I can't say enough good things about the way the W212 drives. "Drives exactly like W211 but does everything just that little bit better" describes it perfectly. It's not night and day by any means, but they further perfected an already winning driving formula, with the steering feel being the biggest difference. The W211 has a bit of a delicate touch to its nature, which I like, although it drives strong, the W212 does away with any delicacy and just gives you a "beat the hell out of me and watch me take it" vibe.
 
Nice with a good and an unbiased review. I agree with your opinion regarding the exterior.
 
Thanks man! I appreciate that. Yeah I just try and give respect where it's due, as anyone who knows me knows that I give non-respect where it's not due as well, hehe. :D
 

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