Vs Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carrera


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The Car and Driver article is now online.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/11271/comparison-test-review-2006-bmw-650i-vs-2006-cadillac-xlr-v-vs-2007-jaguar-xk-vs-2007-mercedes-benz-sl550-vs-2006-porsche-911-carrera.html

1st Place
Mercedes SL550 - 223 points
7 speed auto

Highs: Big torquey engine, brilliant tranmission, solid build, lucid steering fell.
Lows: The sticker (as usual).
The Verdict: Convincingly superior in so many ways.

0-60 - 4.9
0-100 - 12.1
0-130 - 21
1/4 mile - 13.5 @ 106
rolling 5-60 - 5.2
30-50 - 2.8
50-70 - 3.6
70-0 - 159
300 foot skidpad, g - .84

2nd Place
Porsche Carrera - 210 points
5 speed auto.

Highs: Sporty character, intimate drving position, fast top operation.
Lows: Sluggish transmission, bouncy handling, just adequate-power.
The Verdict: Not a hard-core 911, but nice.

0-60 - 5.2
0-100 - 12.5
0-130 - 22.7
1/4 mile - 13.8 @ 105
rolling 5-60 - 5.6
30-50 - 3.1
50-70 - 3.5
70-0 - 150
300 foot skidpad, g - .92

3rd Place
Jaguar XK - 209 points
6 speed auto.

Highs: Stable chassis, amazing ride-and-handling compromise, responsive transmission.
Lows: Poor softtop fit, some electronic, glitches.
The Verdict: An impressive new Jaguar.

0-60 - 6.0
0-100 - 15.3
0-130 - 30.2
1/4 mile - 14.7 @ 98
rolling 5-60 - 6.3
30-50 - 2.6
50-70 - 3.6
70-0 - 163
300 foot skidpad, g - .87

4th Place
BMW 650i - 196 points - Note that the 650i was last in the fun to drive category
6 speed auto.

Highs: Great engine, usable four-seat space, rich demeanor.
Lows: Anesthetic isolation, a heavyweight, controversial styling, bland personality.
The Verdict: Super luxurious, but the victim of a BMW-ectomy.

0-60 - 5.5
0-100 - 13.4
0-130 - 23.7
1/4 mile - 14.0 @ 102
rolling 5-60 - 5.7
30-50 - 2.7
50-70 - 4.1
70-0 - 161
300 foot skidpad, g - .91

5th Place
Cadillac - 188 points
6 speed auto.

Highs: Refinement, performance versatility.
Lows: High price, cramped quarters, questionable styling, attenuated driver involvement.
The Verdict: A good choice if you must be seen in a domestic vehicle.

0-60 - 4.6
0-100 - 11.0
0-130 - 18.8
1/4 mile - 13.0 @ 109
rolling 5-60 - 5.0
30-50 - 2.4
50-70 - 3.3
70-0 - 173
300 foot skidpad, g - .83
 
wow so another test where the FL SL winns..or is this the same test?
 
I guess the surprise here is the placement of the Jag and the BMW respectively. I guess the controversial styling is the rear end of the 650i. Anasthetic isolation - interesting - I guess BMW is still out of favor with these magazines.
 
sure the styling bit is a personall thing..
but last in the fun to drive category..thats something you dont hear about a bimmer every day
 
The Artist said:
sure the styling bit is a personall thing..
but last in the fun to drive category..thats something you dont hear about a bimmer every day
That's true. It really sounds like BMW will have to stay in the dog house for some time longer while the Car & Driver editors cool off from being so totally disgusted by some of the design features of the latest BMWs.
 
Design is one thing, but how come the drive was so terrible? The XK is way overrated in my opinion. It doesn't look anything special on the road, I have seen quite a few, though I do like the interior.
 
Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carre

Any idea if the 6er had the sport package? I'm trying to figure out why they hated it so much.
 
Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carre

I also read this at a news stand. Interesting comment for the BMW, nothing about the driving experience or the handling. BMW used to win all the tests with its driving ability, steering feel and fun factor...Especially American Tests.

But the Porsche was like neutered. Automatic, NON-S version. I think a Manual CarreraS Cabrio would have given the SL a run for its money, but then it falls out of the parameters of the comparo. But regardless cross-shopers would probably go for a S with a 6-Speed...

Kudos to the MB for making such a great car better.
 
This just shows that when a BMW doesn't bring the sportiness it is nothing special. Car and Driver has been critical of the 6-Series since day one. The outgoing CLK55 AMG beat the 645Ci a few years back at C&D also.

I can see where the Jaguar being new would defeat a BMW that doesn't trade on BMW's usually stellar road manners.

M
 
Re: Converts: BMW 650 vs Caddy XLR-V vs Jag XK vs Mercedes SL550 vs Porsche 911 Carre

Mr. Chigga_Chan said:
But the Porsche was like neutered. Automatic, NON-S version. I think a Manual CarreraS Cabrio would have given the SL a run for its money, but then it falls out of the parameters of the comparo. But regardless cross-shopers would probably go for a S with a 6-Speed...

I agree, a 911 is a different type of car and a Carrera S Cabrio would slaughter a SL550 in a different type of comparo.

M
 
I picked up this article yesterday and got so disgusted with American Magazines and their complete lack of good judgement and imagination. I noticed that they all copy each other even on the out-comes. I read the August issue of Motortrend and then an August issue of Car and Driver both having an article on the M coupe vs. Caymen. Both having the same exact results despite the fact that in the real world the M coupe is faster. They both said that the Caymen was faster to 60! ??? Does that make any sence. I have never heard of that before these magazines. What are they thinking??? Not even porsche would admit to that.
 
Matt said:
I picked up this article yesterday and got so disgusted with American Magazines and their complete lack of good judgement and imagination. I noticed that they all copy each other even on the out-comes. I read the August issue of Motortrend and then an August issue of Car and Driver both having an article on the M coupe vs. Caymen. Both having the same exact results despite the fact that in the real world the M coupe is faster. They both said that the Caymen was faster to 60! ??? Does that make any sence. I have never heard of that before these magazines. What are they thinking??? Not even porsche would admit to that.

I guess I'm missing something here? What is your point?

M
 
Merc1 said:
I guess I'm missing something here? What is your point?

M


They both have the same article in the same issue with the same results and even the same 0-60 out come which makes absolutely no sence because we all know that the Bimmer is quicker at least in a strait line.
 
Matt said:
They both have the same article in the same issue with the same results and even the same 0-60 out come which makes absolutely no sence because we all know that the Bimmer is quicker at least in a strait line.

So that makes them incompetent? CAR and Top Gear will have similar tests also. Car makers sense out press cars to magazines at the same time all the time. I don't see what the big deal is. Different magazines test cars differently and there are other factors in getting the best 0-60 times. Motor Trend got only 4.7 sec 0-60 for the S600 while Car and Driver got 4.2 secs.

We all know a BMW isn't likely to beat a Porsche overall when it comes to a sports car comparo.

M
 
Their factory times are a quarter of a second apart. I think its peculiar that the porsche would end up quicker in both of these tests...The BMW has a better power to weight ratio and according to everything else I've read its quicker than the porsche. So it bugs me when they have these tests with results that are totally different than what makes sence.
 
Well I think you're making a lot of something very small, IMO. The Porsche could have been faster due to the BMW being a brand new car with few miles. Anything could have happened.

M
 
My point is that its just really friggin odd that both articles would say the same thing in both issues but I KNOW as a car enthusasiast which is quicker-and what pisses me off is that the results are misleading and some biased dumb *&^# is writing these with much less knowldege than you or I.
 
Matt said:
My point is that its just really friggin odd that both articles would say the same thing in both issues but I KNOW as a car enthusasiast which is quicker-and what pisses me off is that the results are misleading and some biased dumb *&^# is writing these with much less knowldege than you or I.


Not sure how to respond to that, but ok. Maybe the both tested the same cars, I dunno without having the issues in front of me.

M
 

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