Vs Bugatti Veyron 16.4 vs. McLaren F1
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HighestOfHigh
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How can you guys compare that fugly abomination corvette-stic bug to the F1?
I wouldn't drive the bug even if i were given it for free.
LMAO...uh ok
HighestOfHigh
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Lol...I still can't understand why anyone would want a used McLaren F1 over this....
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That Bugatti is utterly, massively, spectacular. If I was in the market - I'd want that one. Sadly it's a one off so what are the chances? 
The issue is this HoH, it's all about what appeals to one's sense of value. Some people like me would like to have a car that was deliberately, purposely engineered to give the driver an ultimate driving experience. But what my interpretation of the ultimate driving experience is, compared with, say, yours is vastly different.
That's not to say that the Veyron does not deliver an ultimate driving experience. It absolutely, undeniably does. It is the most epic achievement of straightline performance ever seen. The Veyron accelerates so hard that, from what I've read, the experience is unmatchable. Warp Factor 9, Mr. Sulu. What makes the Veyron even more desirable is that from a quality perspective it must easily be the grandest, plushest, most luxurious supercar ever made. Usually, very fast supercars are actually quite stripper, bare-bones minimalist with every concession made toward saving weight. The Veyron just says "f^ck that idea". And I love it for that... and I know that you do too.
The McLaren F1 brings an ultimate driving experience from a distinctly different part of the supercar spectrum. It brings driver feel and involvement into an engineering exercise of almost absurd levels of pedantism. Every tiny detail is engineered to perfection, with the mindset of achieving absolute efficiency. Pedals and gear linkages are ultra lightweight titanium (the gas pedal weighs no more than a packet of crisps), the bespoke Kenwood sound system lightened by 7kgs, the engine and gearbox and aerodynamics - all pinnacles of achievement in efficiency. All of this adds up to a car that you can feel the road with, a car that sends exactly the right impulses to one's senses. Not just the sensation of speed but of balance, sound, sight (visibility out of an F1 is superb) and touch. Rather than isolate the driver from the road beneath it like the Veyron does, the F1 puts you in direct contact, allowing the driver to feel part of the explosive experience.
I've never, and will probably never, driver either of these cars. Heck, I haven't even seen either one. But for the thousands upon thousands of words spoken about these cars that I've either heard, watched or read, the message is always the same.
Both cars are epic in their own special way because they represent polarised methods of achieving an ultimate driving experience.
As a sidenote, the Veyron is currently in a depreciative cycle with used models now being readily available. Running costs are ludicrous - even for the mega-wealthy - and servicing fees and rules are just prohibitive.
The McLaren F1, incidentally, is selling for far more than its original sticker price and cherished examples fetch more than a new Veyron. It is far more the sought after collector's item for the true automotive afficionado.
The issue is this HoH, it's all about what appeals to one's sense of value. Some people like me would like to have a car that was deliberately, purposely engineered to give the driver an ultimate driving experience. But what my interpretation of the ultimate driving experience is, compared with, say, yours is vastly different.
That's not to say that the Veyron does not deliver an ultimate driving experience. It absolutely, undeniably does. It is the most epic achievement of straightline performance ever seen. The Veyron accelerates so hard that, from what I've read, the experience is unmatchable. Warp Factor 9, Mr. Sulu. What makes the Veyron even more desirable is that from a quality perspective it must easily be the grandest, plushest, most luxurious supercar ever made. Usually, very fast supercars are actually quite stripper, bare-bones minimalist with every concession made toward saving weight. The Veyron just says "f^ck that idea". And I love it for that... and I know that you do too.
The McLaren F1 brings an ultimate driving experience from a distinctly different part of the supercar spectrum. It brings driver feel and involvement into an engineering exercise of almost absurd levels of pedantism. Every tiny detail is engineered to perfection, with the mindset of achieving absolute efficiency. Pedals and gear linkages are ultra lightweight titanium (the gas pedal weighs no more than a packet of crisps), the bespoke Kenwood sound system lightened by 7kgs, the engine and gearbox and aerodynamics - all pinnacles of achievement in efficiency. All of this adds up to a car that you can feel the road with, a car that sends exactly the right impulses to one's senses. Not just the sensation of speed but of balance, sound, sight (visibility out of an F1 is superb) and touch. Rather than isolate the driver from the road beneath it like the Veyron does, the F1 puts you in direct contact, allowing the driver to feel part of the explosive experience.
I've never, and will probably never, driver either of these cars. Heck, I haven't even seen either one. But for the thousands upon thousands of words spoken about these cars that I've either heard, watched or read, the message is always the same.
Both cars are epic in their own special way because they represent polarised methods of achieving an ultimate driving experience.
As a sidenote, the Veyron is currently in a depreciative cycle with used models now being readily available. Running costs are ludicrous - even for the mega-wealthy - and servicing fees and rules are just prohibitive.
The McLaren F1, incidentally, is selling for far more than its original sticker price and cherished examples fetch more than a new Veyron. It is far more the sought after collector's item for the true automotive afficionado.
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Ok you just made a strong case..
that is spectacular and i dont even like the veyron
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I would take a zonda over both though
