Official Thread BMW Vision Neue Klasse

[J.E]

Read the Deep Dive.
Post in thread 'BMW AG: What's Next'
https://www.germancarforum.com/threads/bmw-ag-whats-next.49743/post-2018398

I don't want to read. Come on man, just wrap it up and tell me what's so revolutionary or is it more of the same?

 

[J.E]

I think my questions are valid, wouldn't you agre @Tuffode and @CrunchSlaughtered ?

@SCOTT27 is touting the Vision Neue Klasse as, and I quote: "Revolution in the making."

Well, what's so revolutionary about it? Go on Scott, give me the spoiler. I don't like surprises.

 

[Beemer B773ER]

what's so revolutionary about it? Go on Scott, give me the spoiler. I don't like surprises reading.

 

[Matski]

I look forward to the response video using interpretive dance and sign language.

 

[SCOTT27]

Revolutionary as the Neue-Klasse was to BMW post-war Germany.
Here are the bullet points read the deep dive Klier posted if you can?

Scaleable Gen6 platform across all BMW Group brands.
Cylindrical battery cells for lighter weight and simpler packaging.
30% increase in range.
20% increase in efficiency
30% increase in charging
50% reduction in production costs
Increases Structural integrity. Increase of optimisation. Reduces cost and Weight.
Maximises interior packaging.
Allows for more aerodynamic and sleeker exterior design.

ASM (Asynchronous motor) to offer tri and quad motors alongside single and dual motors.
MINI and C-Segment models can be RWD.
Developed and built in-house and production within their respective markets.

 

[SCOTT27]

I look forward to the response video using interpretive dance and sign language.

Sign language with fingers?

 

[KiwiRob]

Revolutionary as the Neue-Klasse was to BMW post-war Germany.
Here are the bullet points read the deep dive Klier posted if you can?

Scaleable Gen6 platform across all BMW Group brands.
Cylindrical battery cells for lighter weight and simpler packaging.
30% increase in range.
20% increase in efficiency
30% increase in charging
50% reduction in production costs
Increases Structural integrity. Increase of optimisation. Reduces cost and Weight.
Maximises interior packaging.
Allows for more aerodynamic and sleeker exterior design.

ASM (Asynchronous motor) to offer tri and quad motors alongside single and dual motors.
MINI and C-Segment models can be RWD.
Developed and built in-house and production within their respective markets.

Where is the corresponding 25% decreased in price? The French are bringing prices down, the Germans need to do the same.

 

[KiwiRob]

Revolutionary as the Neue-Klasse was to BMW post-war Germany.
Here are the bullet points read the deep dive Klier posted if you can?

Scaleable Gen6 platform across all BMW Group brands.
Cylindrical battery cells for lighter weight and simpler packaging.
30% increase in range.
20% increase in efficiency
30% increase in charging
50% reduction in production costs
Increases Structural integrity. Increase of optimisation. Reduces cost and Weight.
Maximises interior packaging.
Allows for more aerodynamic and sleeker exterior design.

ASM (Asynchronous motor) to offer tri and quad motors alongside single and dual motors.
MINI and C-Segment models can be RWD.
Developed and built in-house and production within their respective markets.

Where is the corresponding 25% decreased in price? The French are bringing prices down, the Germans need to do the same.

 

[Tuffode]

Revolutionary as the Neue-Klasse was to BMW post-war Germany.
Here are the bullet points read the deep dive Klier posted if you can?

Scaleable Gen6 platform across all BMW Group brands.
Cylindrical battery cells for lighter weight and simpler packaging.
30% increase in range.
20% increase in efficiency
30% increase in charging
50% reduction in production costs
Increases Structural integrity. Increase of optimisation. Reduces cost and Weight.
Maximises interior packaging.
Allows for more aerodynamic and sleeker exterior design.

ASM (Asynchronous motor) to offer tri and quad motors alongside single and dual motors.
MINI and C-Segment models can be RWD.
Developed and built in-house and production within their respective markets.

I don't see anything revolutionary honestly. Nothing groundbreaking. Lucid's been using cylindrical batteries, it has been using the battery as crash structure, their cars already have way more than a 30% increase in range, 20% increase in efficiency, and 30% increase in charging speed vs current BMWs. This is just BMW playing catchup.

Also the ASM motor in the front isn't a good thing. You have less precise control over that kind of motor vs the motor they are using in the back. It's a cost cutting thing not a performance thing.

 

[SCOTT27]

Where is the corresponding 25% decreased in price? The French are bringing prices down, the Germans need to do the same.

It’s all within the deep dive.

 

[Titot]

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ZA0 (NA0) and G20.

 

[Design FIRST]

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ZA0 (NA0) and G20.

I've been hopefully waiting for a genuinely impressive car by a German manufacturer for quite some time now. THIS could BE IT. So far...I am simply fascinated by what I am seeing. In my eyes, the design embodies WHAT a BMW should be. Perfectly, at that.

 

[SKY]

 

[SCOTT27]

Rendered from the patents?

 

[SKY]

Rendered from the patents?

Would say so. But the rear bumper is a bit off the patents.

Gives you a great idea regarding the looks of the final car IMO.

 

[leylandi]

 

[leylandi]

 

[SCOTT27]

Definitely see some E36 in that design.

 

[Design FIRST]

This is looking...SIMPLY BRILLANT ! A monolithic design for the ages.

 

[Titot]

Coincidentally, all three BMW's core/traditional sedans: 3er, 5er and 7er are now being spied and tested for their upcoming redesign (3) and refresh (5 and 7).

THE 3-i3-M3:

THE 5-i5-M5:

THE 7-i7: