Featured BMW Vision Alpina

[leylandi]

Hey amoeba brain - I'm having a civil discussion with a respectable adult. Wind your neck in.

This is probably a warning and grounds for a ban.

 

[leylandi]

And that might be wonderful for Mercedes but it has no place in a BMW. They're different and they appeal differently. That's how brands work.

Yes, BMW offers 440 different color options for the individual 7 Series.

 

[Design FIRST]

At 200k, This is what you get at Mercedes.

Good Heavens ! I think that I am having an aura.

 

[Swissbob]

@martinbo
I think the Idea of putting bigger screens in cars ( like Mercedes Benz and BMW do) absolutely stupid. Screens are cheap, and I don’t like them tbh.

The best setup currently is the wide screen in the G and the curved screen of BMW. Both are not too big.

The most interesting car for me would be a convertible based on the new Alpina, BTW.


Regarding the 223, fortunately the passenger screen can be turned of, the most annoying things in that car ( for me personally) are the black plastic elements in the doors, which can be covered with leather.
Regarding the angled screen, I have to drive this first before I can see If it disturbs me. If this disturbs me I am not gonna buy it.


I like Mercedes Benz, but If the BMW or Audi or Range Rover or Bentley are better for me personally , I am buying this instead, no problem for me.

 

[martinbo]

Yes, BMW offers 440 different color options for the individual 7 Series.

Congrats on making no point whatsoever.

 

[Esp5]

That's true, it's hardly groundbreaking. Pretty though, and the auto market needs more of that.

That's not entirely correct. IMO, it has a tremendous balance between groundbreaking and timeless elegance. It achieves very difficult things, such as maintaining its identity while having a different profile, a very successful new rear end, and a completely new and striking front end that establishes the kidney grilles in a totally new way, as iconic and high-end as ever before—a new identity that other manufacturers would be begging to have.

 

[martinbo]

I think the Idea of putting bigger screens in cars ( like Mercedes Benz and BMW do) absolutely stupid. Screens are cheap, and I don’t like them tbh.

The best setup currently is the wide screen in the G and the curved screen of BMW. Both are not too big.

Well, given that we can't change that and large screens are an inevitability, my area of interest lies in the functionality of the screens rather than how big they are.

I like Mercedes Benz, but If the BMW or Audi or Range Rover or Bentley are better for me personally , I am buying this instead, no problem for me.

I like you Bob, but I don't believe you.

 

[Matski]

If you read the comments you know that Mont Blanc lives on their heritage, the current products are mostly rubbish.

The worst of it is that it's ergonomically horrible, it's an unpleasant thing to hold. It hasn't fallen apart in 12 years - though this is because I've probably only used it a handful of times. I also didn't pay for it (it was a gift from a colleague)... the most expensive pens I buy are my Rotring Rapidographs and Isographs, which are about £20 each... I think you've rocks in your head to spend more than that on a pen, but that's just me.

... but that's not the point being made. The value in this case isn't intrinsic to the material, and generally speaking it isn't really with production car interiors.

You don’t get the point. He argues that luxury is not about mass-produced materials that look expensive, but rather about true craftsmanship, originality, and bespoke design. People tend to mistake perception for real value and confuse standard details with genuine “luxury”. And yes, he’s not wrong.

Nicely summarised, thanks.

 

[leylandi]

Well, given that we can't change that and large screens are an inevitability, my area of interest lies in the functionality of the screens rather than how big they are.

Even air direction control is now done via screens. It's not very functional, I suppose.

 

[Swissbob]

Well, given that we can't change that and large screens are an inevitability, my area of interest lies in the functionality of the screens rather than how big they are.

I like you Bob, but I don't believe you.

P.S. I currently own a E93 and a E53(not the Mercedes Benz ) btw.

 

[Swissbob]

Even air direction control is now done via screens. It's not very functional, I suppose.

This is even more stupid.

 

[martinbo]

Even air direction control is now done via screens. It's not very functional, I suppose.

And that's awful. I completely agree and I don't like it. But if this is the way it's going then I'm interested to see whose solution works the best.
The MB-UX I tested in the W214 was far better than iDrive 8.5 based on a series of tasks and tests I did. Voice activated commands so much better too.
But now that this all-new BMW interior paradigm is coming out - let me test and decide for myself once more.

 

[martinbo]

P.S. I currently own a E93 and a E53(not the Mercedes Benz ) btw.

Good cars, both! More than 20 years old though... 20 years is a looong time to establish a bad habit.

 

[Swissbob]

And that's awful. I completely agree and I don't like it. But if this is the way it's going then I'm interested to see whose solution works the best.
The MB-UX I tested in the W214 was far better than iDrive 8.5 based on a series of tasks and tests I did. Voice activated commands so much better too.
But now that this all-new BMW interior paradigm is coming out - let me test and decide for myself once more.

I am looking forward to your report.

 

[Serpens]

That's not entirely correct. IMO, it has a tremendous balance between groundbreaking and timeless elegance. It achieves very difficult things, such as maintaining its identity while having a different profile, a very successful new rear end, and a completely new and striking front end that establishes the kidney grilles in a totally new way, as iconic and high-end as ever before—a new identity that other manufacturers would be begging to have.

This made me laugh. What is ground breaking about this design? There is absolutely nothing unique about the profile, it still has the well-worn light set up of thin DRLs matched with headlights in the foglight location, and yes while the kidneys are matched in a new way for BMW it's not new to car design at all.

Everything came together beautifully here but I'm finding very little that's new to the car design arena. BMW does groundbreaking just fine when it wants to, but that clearly wasn't what this vehicle was aiming for.

 

[McLaren64TR]

It seems no one knows when the launch will take place.

 

[Design FIRST]

What is ground breaking about this design?

Based on the dictionary definition of "groundbreaking": Nothing.

However, the Vision ALPINA represents the presentation of a design paradigm that successfully consolidates elements from modern, rigidly minimalistic, reduced industrial design into a single cohesive future design philosophy for BMW AG products. It arguably represents the term "masterclass" in a context similar to that of Gropius Bauhaus or, to a certain extent, Brutalist architecture.

 

[Matski]

It seems no one knows when the launch will take place.

Friday night is BMW Night at Villa d'Este, it'll be 6pm there now, so probably within the next couple of hours.

 

[Jonathan19]

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[McLaren64TR]