5 Series BMW i5 in the works

[SCOTT27]

What? Everything about it says lame i3 chop...

The autobild i5 render not the stretched i3.

 

[Andy1980]

I like the autobild render. it´s both - timeless and modern. but is the i5 really planned as a mini-van?

 

[go0gle]

Just take the current 5 and make it full electric ala Model S .. a few little visual changes and call it i5

 

[SCOTT27]

Just take the current 5 and make it full electric ala Model S .. a few little visual changes and call it i5

The Sedan and therefore the true BMWi competitor to the Model S will be as innovative and cutting edge in design and technology as the BMW i3 and i8.

 

[bimmerjph]

Just take the current 5 and make it full electric ala Model S .. a few little visual changes and call it i5

Because it would weigh about 5,000 lbs.

 

[Cabasse0]

The Sedan and therefore the true BMWi competitor to the Model S will be as innovative and cutting edge in design and technology as the BMW i3 and i8.

But BMW will use the all technology of the i3 and i8 to increase the profitabilty of the i range ... I heard also that more than one model will follow in the i range

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

With today's chatter regarding Porsche considering making a Tesla S rival in the form of an all-electric "Pajun," where's BMW with the i5 at this point? Has a body style been finalized? Release date? etc. etc.

Personally, I'd love to see a coupe-ish sedan, i.e. a car with the proportion of a 5er or a 6er GC with the i aesthetic applied and a shooting-brake.

 

[SCOTT27]

With today's chatter regarding Porsche considering making a Tesla S rival in the form of an all-electric "Pajun," where's BMW with the i5 at this point? Has a body style been finalized? Release date? etc. etc.

Personally, I'd love to see a coupe-ish sedan, i.e. a car with the proportion of a 5er or a 6er GC with the i aesthetic applied and a shooting-brake.

You will see something as we are very much moving forward on such a concept as is a new Concept 5er GT which will be equipped with the first BMW-Toyota jointly developed Fuel Cell. Its similar to how we presented the first GT.
Slightly longer , more stretched proportions and sharper details but still very much a luxury car. Some will continue to debate the pointless of it. Others will actually be impressed on how it has progressed from a design perspective.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

You will see something as we are very much moving forward on such a concept as is a new Concept 5er GT which will be equipped with the first BMW-Toyota jointly developed Fuel Cell. Its similar to how we presented the first GT.
Slightly longer , more stretched proportions and sharper details but still very much a luxury car. Some will continue to debate the pointless of it. Others will actually be impressed on how it has progressed from a design perspective.

hmmmm...
Regarding the whole brouhaha with the current 5-GT, I understand why it exists, I, along with a decent number of folks, don't care for the car's exterior aesthetics. To me, it looks frog-like in its silhouette. If it appeared more svelte and less ponderous, then it would appeal to me.
Now in terms going down the crossover-GT route with the i5, have they settled on whether it'd be more sedan-like or SUV-like with its ride height?

 

[ThroughandThrough]

BMW developing an i5 or i7 for 2018, will target the Tesla Model S

Will feature a plug-in hybrid powertrain


BMW is reportedly developing a Tesla Model S competitor for 2018.

According to Automobile Magazine, the model will be a plug-in hybrid that is based on the long-wheelbase 5-Series that is available in China.

Slated to adopt either the i5 or i7 moniker, the model will reportedly feature a front-mounted range-extending petrol engine and two electric motors. This setup will enable the car to be front-wheel drive, rear-wheel drive and all-wheel drive. Specifications remain a mystery but it's rumored that the car will have an electric-only range of 80 miles (128 km).

Little else is known about the model but it will reportedly be previewed by a concept in 2017 and adopt styling cues from the 6-Series Gran Coupe and the next-generation 7-Series.

The production model will reportedly cost less than $100,000 (€80,400 / £64,080) and BMW is expected to build 30,000 units annually.

Source: Automobile Magazine

http://www.worldcarfans.com/114121585937/bmw-developing-an-i5-or-i7-for-2018-will-target-the-tesla

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

BMW developing an i5 or i7 for 2018, will target the Tesla Model S

and i thought it would be based on the i architecture, and not core model

 

[EnI]

No, no and no!

People have a complete misunderstanding of BMW i brand. It's not Tesla rival. BMW - the core brand - is a Tesla rival. BMW i is a specific sub-brand of BMW - just like BMW M: offering special niche products for a specific clientèle. NICHE. Not mass!

For the "masses" there will be core-BMW PHEVs (and in the foreseeable future BEVs). There will be tons of new PHEV models by BMW in the next few years: X5, 3er, 2er AT, X2 (aka X1 LWB), 7er, 5er, 1er 5dr, X3 etc. In the future - when the advanced battery tech will be cheaper & standardized charging infrastructure developed - most of these models will become BEVs, while others with ICE on board will get much extended battery range / mileage. Initially - in the first gen PHEVs - the battery range will be about 50km max. Enough for daily city driving.

When it comes to "i5" ... it's far from being greenlighted but it is expected to be a sort of AWD crossover but not just an elongated i3! It will also sport advanced CFRP-alu LifeDrive architecture. It is expected to be fully electric (there are some indications the Concept will even be shown as FCEV - to demonstrate BMW's development in this particular area). Also it is expected to be BMW's most advanced vehicle when it comes to ConnectedDrive features - the(Semi)Autonomous driving features, user interface etc etc. And it is expected to be in the Tesla X price segment.

No BMW i sedan is planned ... Never heard of such a plan. It's a media-driven insinuation because Tesla S is a sedan (and it desperately "needs" a direct rival). Well, not from BMW. 5er PHEV & 7er PHEV will be the closest Tesla S rivals. While

 

[Sunny]

BMW developing an i5 or i7 for 2018, will target the Tesla Model S...
Will feature a plug-in hybrid powertrain

Either it will be a hybrid or a Tesla competitor. Not both.

 

[bmwblog]

Might disagree here. BMW certainly wants BMW i to be for the masses, not a niche.

No, no and no!

People have a complete misunderstanding of BMW i brand. It's not Tesla rival. BMW - the core brand - is a Tesla rival. BMW i is a specific sub-brand of BMW - just like BMW M: offering special niche products for a specific clientèle. NICHE. Not mass!

For the "masses" there will be core-BMW PHEVs (and in the foreseeable future BEVs). There will be tons of new PHEV models by BMW in the next few years: X5, 3er, 2er AT, X2 (aka X1 LWB), 7er, 5er, 1er 5dr, X3 etc. In the future - when the advanced battery tech will be cheaper & standardized charging infrastructure developed - most of these models will become BEVs, while others with ICE on board will get much extended battery range / mileage. Initially - in the first gen PHEVs - the battery range will be about 50km max. Enough for daily city driving.

When it comes to "i5" ... it's far from being greenlighted but it is expected to be a sort of AWD crossover but not just an elongated i3! It will also sport advanced CFRP-alu LifeDrive architecture. It is expected to be fully electric (there are some indications the Concept will even be shown as FCEV - to demonstrate BMW's development in this particular area). Also it is expected to be BMW's most advanced vehicle when it comes to ConnectedDrive features - the(Semi)Autonomous driving features, user interface etc etc. And it is expected to be in the Tesla X price segment.

No BMW i sedan is planned ... Never heard of such a plan. It's a media-driven insinuation because Tesla S is a sedan (and it desperately "needs" a direct rival). Well, not from BMW. 5er PHEV & 7er PHEV will be the closest Tesla S rivals. While

 

[marley71]

I've been having a field day with TSLA put options this past month, especially encouraged by the PR lies about working with BMW. I'm glad that they are that desperate. I'm disheartened however by the i5 rumors. I would have hoped there would be rolling prototypes or a concept car reveal by now. The market is there, of course I'm not the bean counter who has determined how best to roll out this new model, but I fear that BMW's approach is too cautious.

It had better be a paragon of weight saving efficiency, have a 200 mile range, be f**kall beautiful, and base price less than $99,999.

C'mon!

 

[SCOTT27]

When you think of BMWs proposal of the i7 you have to look at the philosophy in how the i3 and i8 are anything but conventional. So when you picture the i7, please remember to include the advances that have been made since the i3 and i8 were developed which in BMW terms they are a few years older now even though they were launched in 2013/2014.
Advances in material technology which we will see advance throughout the entire group that not only have made BMW progressive and innovative but ahead of the competition in regards to cost effective CFRP by up to five years.
Now go back to design purpose of the BMWi cars and there is nothing else like it in the market today.
The original Vision Efficient Dynamics concept the precursor to the i8 there was nothing else like it but do you remember Vision EfficentDynamics was a full four seater? But was not a convential Coupe or Sedan?

That is your vision for the i7 some say its like a four door i8 but the details have progressed even though the aerodynamic future proof styling has been retained with i3 reverse hinged rear doors.

There will of course be the convential 530e etc just as the entire range of BMW will offer at least one variation of sustainable drivetrain.

 

[EnI]

Might disagree here. BMW certainly wants BMW i to be for the masses, not a niche.

Hardly. With mid-term production capacities of 100k units per year that's not exactly a volume for the masses. Neither are the prices of BMW i cars.

CF(RP) production is still very much a bottleneck. And will be at least until SGL Automotive CF Moses Lake plant 3rd expansion is finalized in the end of 2015 - boosting CF production by another 50% (from 6,000 to 9,000 tons per year). Mind the even bigger expansion was completed in Summer 2014 - boosting CF production from 3,000 tons to 6,000 tons annually ... so, a 100% increase in production). But not even that will be enough since the BMW M and the core BMW models will start to feature (more) CFRP parts.
Interestingly the SGL Automotive CF is still the unprecedented leader of automotive CF threads, and will stay as such in the coming years as well. Eg. in 2013 the estimated total weight of CFRP parts used in passenger cars was 7,500 tons, while for the 2016 the estimated weight is 16.000 tons. One doesn't have to be a genius to conclude a majority of such parts will be used in BMW Group cars (since SGL A CF production of CF thread will be at about 9,000 tons at that time - and exclusively supplied to BMW Group).

When it comes to batteries ... BMW & Samsung SDI also expanded the battery supply deal. Not only due to increased BMW i production but mostly due to all the forthcoming BMW PHEVs (X5, 3er, 2er AT, 7er, 5er, X2, X3, 1er etc etc).

 

[kingjr9000]

Every time someone mentions bmw or mercedes or audi is planning an electric or hybird car, I simply just scroll down to the comments to laugh at all of the tesla fanboy comments. Because what most of them don't either get or understand is that no matter how much the reviews or Musk himself says that their cars will be the end all, the other manufacturers have something that tesla doesn't have right now at least: no fear of range anxiety, luxurious cabin (based off of what I read), and brand cache.

 

[SCOTT27]

The Next BMW i model begins to take shape.

Innovative, Progressive and Radical.

The next BMW i model will be a four door interpretation of a BMW Sedan.

Conceptual work is underway to provide a first look at how BMW see the Sport Sedan progress for the future with the first appearance in concept form being the highlight of the 100th Centenary of BMW in 2016 where all BMW and BMW sub-Brands will celebrate in their own way.

The new vehicle owes much to the original Vision EfficientDynamics concept car in that it packages itself for four passengers. With a longer wheelbase. Since the car is in the conceptual stage many ideas are in flow. Such as a single winged door exactly like Vision EfficientDynamics and BMW i3 type reverse hinged doors to access the passenger cell and also continue the visual surprise within each BMW i vehicle.

The exterior design progresses the BMW i design language to ensure the car stands out very much like the i3 and i8 as if they are from another world or a time in the future with similar aerodynamics. The vehicle is much more than just a four door i8 it has to form its own visual to allow the BMW i philosophy of strict individuality to be the anomaly.

Since the new vehicle will be a concept car with the production model aiming for launch by 2020. The Carbon Age will progress with a BMW i3 type Carbon Structure on an aluminium chassis other Lightweight materials will also be used to have the car at a very significant weight.

BMW like to think of the new concept as not just a new BMW i model but also a window into the future of BMW to potentially introduce the 3er in the same genetics in not the next life cycle (G20) but the next at around 2025.

The model will be eDrive with plug-in Hybrid but using the Power eDrive philosophy allowing exceptional performance with fuel efficiency.
A similar drivetrain will be introduced in 2016 both use a Four Cylinder engine combined with electric drivetrain.

The new concept will make the most of the developments of BMWs ConnectedDrive Features including autonomous technology in which BMW are testing in the i8 now as well as the latest in vehicle charging including inductive charging.

First and foremost its a concept but will be shown in certain phases as it makes its way to production after initial introduction and reaction.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

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