Vs BMW fans wont be happy - M6 vs SL55

[Nicholai_AMG]

the problem is that the E and CLs class don't have ABC suspension system...

but we can dream without too

 

[LaArtist]

doesent the AMG versions have ABC??

 

[donau]

I've heard that most brands overestimate their figures, but that Porsche on the other hand are known to really underestimate.

I am really happy about this result as well, but that bit about the M6 being more fun to drive worries me. Driving pleasure is the most important thing in a car imo. But I'm pretty sure a propper gearbox would take car of that in the SL. I still prefer the SL over the M6 though

The best thing about this result is the psychological effect. I hope it will help alleviate the somewhat negative trend with MB's image that had been developing for various reasons. Of course one positive thing won't turn around a persistent trend but at least it's a step to the right direction.
Both cars are brilliant works of engineering.

 

[GTA45E]

doesent the AMG versions have ABC??

No, thay sure don`t. However the CLS55 has an improved version of Airmatic.
The CLS55 has much better body control than it`s brother the E55.

ABC is very effective but is also heavier and more expensive than Airmatic.

When the E63 comes along expect much better performance with a faster
reacting (AirmaticII) suspension and quicker steering bits with better brakes!
The CLS63 will be just as stunning.

AMG is now officially on the Performance Roll!

 

[LaArtist]

yeah man i noticed..i was just confused..
anyways like you say performance roll.. lets wait and see for the rest of the new AMG´s

 

[GTA45E]

I have to ask, didnt you boys expect the SL55 to accelerate faster than 13 sec to 200km/h?

Well yeah, but remember it`s still using the 5-speed. If the G7 was used, look out man! Still 13 seconds is quit impressive seeing the SL55 has two less gears than the M6.

 

[bum-man]

Actually, this wasn't all that surprising to me. I already knew the pre-facelifted SL was a good handler and a very underated car. So with all the improvements Mercedes announced with their press release I was expecting quite a car, and it delivered. Now will the S65 come with ABC version 2?

 

[LaArtist]

yep S65 comes with ABCII and floating disc brakes..

 

[Nicholai_AMG]

the front brakes are not half floating half fixed? innovative technology !!

 

[LaArtist]

This is what is said about the brakes and the ABC II on the S65
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A new twin sliding calliper is used for the front brakes, the kind of innovation people have come to expect from AMG. This new, unique technology combines the advantages of a floating-calliper brake – lower heat transfer to the brake fluid and significantly improved ride comfort due to the way the brake pads are located – with the performance of a large fixed-calliper brake. At the rear a large sliding frame-type calliper provides the braking.
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Compared with the previous model, the second-generation Active Body Control is even more effective, for instance in reducing body movements in any given driving situation. Thus the S 65 AMG opens up new dimensions in dynamic handling – while offering appreciably improved ride comfort.

 

[Lemantech]

The facelifted SL55 with the new engine (517p) has beaten one of best BMW handing cars in a germancarmag.

Auto Zeitung sees the advantage of the M6 in the lower acquisition costs (24.500,-- € ceaper), the larger trunk, the 195 kg higher load capacity, and the existing back seats but SL55 offer better comfort and better brakes. SL55 is faster around their test track (1.5 sec faster than the M6). The M6 suffers from understeering and power-oversteering.

0-100 km/h M6=4,5s : SL55=4,5s
0-200 km/h M6=13,2 s : SL55=13,0s

I always knew the Sl55 was a great handling car but Im shocked and happy for MB fans that the facelifted SL55 did so well. Now I hope Sportauto test the car one day around their tracks.

mb's back in action.....good for them.

 

[Kleemann_SL]

Now Im expecting this from the E and the CLS too! Oww and the CLK63 ofcourse...

 

[GTA45E]

With these new improvements AMG is throwing that "just straight line performance" reputation out in the can!

If the new SL55 is this impressive. We should expect even better numbers for the SL65!

 

[LaArtist]

hmm that depends on what they did to the SL65 FL.. cause before many felt that the 55 was more fun.. and almost as fast..

 

[GTA45E]

hmm that depends on what they did to the SL65 FL.. cause before many felt that the 55 was more fun.. and almost as fast..

Well the press release says the SL55 and SL65 has the same improvement bits
so I wouldn`t expect less performance from the 65.

 

[LaArtist]

cool.. lets wait and see..
some mag ( EVO) should do a huge test with all these new AMG cars..

CLS/E/CLK/S and both SL´s

 

[GTA45E]

cool.. lets wait and see..
some mag ( EVO) should do a huge test with all these new AMG cars..

CLS/E/CLK/S and both SL´s

Here you go Artist, click on the link in the first page to read about the
performance enhancements of both cars: http://www.germancarforum.com/showthread.php?t=2588

MB wouldn`t leave the King of convertibles SL65 out of the performance race!

 

[LaArtist]

ohh cool ..thnx for the link man..

PS
OT: something i always wanted to ask you.. i always forget..
where is or what is Delta Vaga?

 

[GTA45E]

PS
OT: something i always wanted to ask you.. i always forget..
where is or what is Delta Vaga?

OT: Well I live right smack in the middle of America, Kansas.
I live in the heart of DownTown in the Business area. Here is a pic of my neighborhood



Delta Vega is just a place of study.

 

[LaArtist]

Ohh okay..thnx for clearing that up...

PS
I didnt want to do this..but you guys have forced me.. so here it comes.. its not my fault if you get excited and rob a bank..