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No I think that's just your opinion. On top of that Betty is right. I'm waiting for the reviews on the M cars and the i8.
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No I think that's just your opinion. On top of that Betty is right. I'm waiting for the reviews on the M cars and the i8.
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That was not my point. You've made up your mind for all of us and we're all gonna find the new cars dull. There might actually be people on this forum that are looking forward to the 4er Gran coupe and so on. That's my point.
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I challenge anyone of you to tell me which of the none yet seen cars keeps you excited at night..and you just can not wait to see it..just name one..
And i already say that maaaaybeee the 4er gc could be somewhat interesting.. but the rest?..
Its not my fault that they aren't bringing something worth special attention..
And i already say that maaaaybeee the 4er gc could be somewhat interesting.. but the rest?..
Its not my fault that they aren't bringing something worth special attention..
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Artist, this is a list of cars that are getting their "market" launch. I.e. cars that will go on sale. You said there was nothing exciting. You then subsequently added in later posts "that we haven't seen before". You cannot change the argument half way through.
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^you are right i should have written what i thought instead of thinking that people can read my mind..
Ofcourse the M3/4 are exciting..but been there done that now..
So from that list there is nothing exciting.. maybe we will see something exciting.. a secret surprise..or a car that is SHOWN in 14 and might go in sale 15..
But based on that info.. god daayymmn its a dull ass year
Ofcourse the M3/4 are exciting..but been there done that now..
So from that list there is nothing exciting.. maybe we will see something exciting.. a secret surprise..or a car that is SHOWN in 14 and might go in sale 15..
But based on that info.. god daayymmn its a dull ass year
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By the time we get to Paris in October this year, there might even be an M2. I seem to remember Scott saying the M version would be here quicker than you think (whatever value you place on Scott's posts). It may be a CONCEPT version only.
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BMW moves to 2 specific Architecture for future models.
And 1 jointly developed architecture with Toyota.
FWD Architecture Modular - UKL BMW-MINI (Available with All-Wheel Drive)
RWD Architecture Modular - BMW - Rolls-Royce (Available with All-Wheel Drive)
BMW-Toyota jointly developed RWD Architecture - BMW-Toyota-Lexus (Available with All-Wheel Drive)
The Architecture used for the next generation BMW 3er , 5er , ,7er , X models and the Rolls-Royce Ghost is modular , the Architecture is the central piece and then depending on which model the remaining sections are modular and then applied to distinguish each model whether in SAV or extended wheelbase models.
Its an intelligent approach to a shared architecture. It is in fact similar to what is used in the current 5er , 6er , 7er , X5 etc and that is why we have extended model variation in the BMW 5er Gran Turismo , BMW 6er Gran Coupe and the China only BMW 5er Li.
The intelligent part is really the introduction of the Carbon Age for core BMW models beginning with the all new 7er. On top of this architecture brings an intelligent mix of material technology which combines aluminium , magnesium and CFRP to each models structure.
The weight advantages over existing architecture is outstanding. There is a BMW i8 video you should watch because it essentially gives the game away to how BMW will bring Cost effective not Cost cutting changes to each new model , less is most definitely more especially in achieving overall weight reduction.
Upcoming Technical innovation will also be shared across each model - Advanced Head-Up Display with incorporated surround augmented reality and passenger entertainment , social facility , Autonomous driving and Self-Park, BMWs new ride refinement control and Laser Headlights to name a few.
This will be possible on even the 3er because of the single architecture.
Then there will be a shared architecture in collaboration with Toyota for a range of sportier models including the next 6er and Z models.
Again this is scalable and modular to be utilised on a range of jointly developed models between BMW and Toyota/Lexus.
The key part to this significance will be all resources will be able to be contributed between both brands and you are looking at possibly a first a full Carbon fibre tub structure in a mid-entry Roadster. This is strategically and an important area of innovation. No competitor will be able to match that in a volume product like a Z3.
Of course the cost savings will be there , but it will also allow BMW to challenge future legislation and rising costs but still develop new niches as well as extending individual model portfolios to appeal to new and existing customers.
It also brings BMW at the forefront of engineering innovation.
The first look at an exciting new future will be celebrated in the form of a new Luxury Concept car that will be unveiled in April ahead of the Auto China in Beijing.
There will be further developments with BMWi but at the moment all current concentration is on the first two BMWi models the i3 and i8 which have gone from concept to production. There will be another BMWi concept soon that will show potentially further progress and again it will be reaction that will determine its future.
The M cars are going to be in the greatest position of all. The M3 and M4 shows what was available at that time. But progress by 2016/2017 when the G30 based M5 arrives in 2017 that progress in CFRP will be much further along.
The G30 will use CFRP in its structure but M5 will follow the M3 and M4 and use it in key areas of the engineering and for the first time on the body panels.
The same follows true for the joint BMW/Toyota cars which will include the next generation BMW M6.
The joint development means that Toyota who are also an in-house producing CFRP manufacturer can combine material resources therefore allowing a range of specific models to use an intelligent material mix reserved for high end sports cars.
BMW is now the worlds largest manufacturer in producing Carbon Fibre based cars and this is due to the significant investment to build facilities and develop the process. The benefit is that it becomes entirely cost effective and allows BMW to spread the material across their whole portfolio as it becomes produced in more volume and becomes even more cost-effective.
And 1 jointly developed architecture with Toyota.
FWD Architecture Modular - UKL BMW-MINI (Available with All-Wheel Drive)
RWD Architecture Modular - BMW - Rolls-Royce (Available with All-Wheel Drive)
BMW-Toyota jointly developed RWD Architecture - BMW-Toyota-Lexus (Available with All-Wheel Drive)
The Architecture used for the next generation BMW 3er , 5er , ,7er , X models and the Rolls-Royce Ghost is modular , the Architecture is the central piece and then depending on which model the remaining sections are modular and then applied to distinguish each model whether in SAV or extended wheelbase models.
Its an intelligent approach to a shared architecture. It is in fact similar to what is used in the current 5er , 6er , 7er , X5 etc and that is why we have extended model variation in the BMW 5er Gran Turismo , BMW 6er Gran Coupe and the China only BMW 5er Li.
The intelligent part is really the introduction of the Carbon Age for core BMW models beginning with the all new 7er. On top of this architecture brings an intelligent mix of material technology which combines aluminium , magnesium and CFRP to each models structure.
The weight advantages over existing architecture is outstanding. There is a BMW i8 video you should watch because it essentially gives the game away to how BMW will bring Cost effective not Cost cutting changes to each new model , less is most definitely more especially in achieving overall weight reduction.
Upcoming Technical innovation will also be shared across each model - Advanced Head-Up Display with incorporated surround augmented reality and passenger entertainment , social facility , Autonomous driving and Self-Park, BMWs new ride refinement control and Laser Headlights to name a few.
This will be possible on even the 3er because of the single architecture.
Then there will be a shared architecture in collaboration with Toyota for a range of sportier models including the next 6er and Z models.
Again this is scalable and modular to be utilised on a range of jointly developed models between BMW and Toyota/Lexus.
The key part to this significance will be all resources will be able to be contributed between both brands and you are looking at possibly a first a full Carbon fibre tub structure in a mid-entry Roadster. This is strategically and an important area of innovation. No competitor will be able to match that in a volume product like a Z3.
Of course the cost savings will be there , but it will also allow BMW to challenge future legislation and rising costs but still develop new niches as well as extending individual model portfolios to appeal to new and existing customers.
It also brings BMW at the forefront of engineering innovation.
The first look at an exciting new future will be celebrated in the form of a new Luxury Concept car that will be unveiled in April ahead of the Auto China in Beijing.
There will be further developments with BMWi but at the moment all current concentration is on the first two BMWi models the i3 and i8 which have gone from concept to production. There will be another BMWi concept soon that will show potentially further progress and again it will be reaction that will determine its future.
The M cars are going to be in the greatest position of all. The M3 and M4 shows what was available at that time. But progress by 2016/2017 when the G30 based M5 arrives in 2017 that progress in CFRP will be much further along.
The G30 will use CFRP in its structure but M5 will follow the M3 and M4 and use it in key areas of the engineering and for the first time on the body panels.
The same follows true for the joint BMW/Toyota cars which will include the next generation BMW M6.
The joint development means that Toyota who are also an in-house producing CFRP manufacturer can combine material resources therefore allowing a range of specific models to use an intelligent material mix reserved for high end sports cars.
BMW is now the worlds largest manufacturer in producing Carbon Fibre based cars and this is due to the significant investment to build facilities and develop the process. The benefit is that it becomes entirely cost effective and allows BMW to spread the material across their whole portfolio as it becomes produced in more volume and becomes even more cost-effective.
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It all sounds PERFECT! Bright future for BMW 
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Its simple to understand. Did you ever have Lego or Meccano in your childhood days?
You start with a central section, a backbone if you will. And then you can add modular sections to extend the wheelbase , position the firewall , suspension mounts to determine the course of action for a various selection of models from Sedans to SAVs. It is not to dissimilar from today's architecture. Although this time there is an intelligent mix of lightweight materials.
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Nowadays it means whatever they say it is IMO. Unless you can literally crawl under every car that comes out, we'll never know anymore and I think that is how they want it.
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A 1350kg. 220HP 320i comes to my mind...
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It previews in a way the next 7er.
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BMW to bring a pair of concepts to the Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este
Kicks off on May 23rd
BMW has announced plans to unveil two new concepts at the Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este.
The company declined to elaborate but said the concepts were "created by its automotive and motorcycle design experts." This likely means we can expect a car and a motorcycle.
That's not much to go on but BMW has previously used the Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este to introduce the M1 Homage, Gran Lusso Coupe and Zagato coupe concepts.
Regardless of what BMW has planned, the 2014 Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este will celebrate the "glitz and glamour of the Roaring Twenties." The event will also celebrate the 110th anniversary of Rolls-Royce and 100 Years of Maserati.
Source: BMW
Kicks off on May 23rd
BMW has announced plans to unveil two new concepts at the Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este.
The company declined to elaborate but said the concepts were "created by its automotive and motorcycle design experts." This likely means we can expect a car and a motorcycle.
That's not much to go on but BMW has previously used the Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este to introduce the M1 Homage, Gran Lusso Coupe and Zagato coupe concepts.
Regardless of what BMW has planned, the 2014 Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este will celebrate the "glitz and glamour of the Roaring Twenties." The event will also celebrate the 110th anniversary of Rolls-Royce and 100 Years of Maserati.
Source: BMW
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Yes you will be excited at what is coming to Beijing and Villa d'Este. And excited for BMW as an innovative premium manufacturer.
The plug-in hybrid 530Le is also significant for Beijing, as it is the first car of its kind to debut on the market. And for China this is strategically important.
Plus we will also see the introductions of the BMW 2er Gran Tourer , BMW 1er LCi and the BMW M4 Cabrio over the next three months.
The plug-in hybrid 530Le is also significant for Beijing, as it is the first car of its kind to debut on the market. And for China this is strategically important.
Plus we will also see the introductions of the BMW 2er Gran Tourer , BMW 1er LCi and the BMW M4 Cabrio over the next three months.
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