Hot! BMW AG: What's Next

[Rolf]

Also dangerous and less good for safety compared to this:

These door handles and the lack of certain physical buttons in the interior makes cars factually less safe than before and it's astonishing.

Who the f#ck cares if your electric milage is 0.002% less efficient? Are you joking????

Touch screens for controlling HVAC/Radio/Mobile Entertainment and self closing doors are also unsafe IMHO. Removing the buttons, seat controls and putting on the touch screen is an ergonomical disaster.

 

[leylandi]

I just did a little research and it turns out the G60 is a sales failure compared to the previous 5 Series. Not only that, the G70 7 Series also lagged significantly behind previous generations. Bold designs weren't something anyone cared about.

F10, G30 and G60 first full year sales figures.

F10 (2011): 332,500
G30 (2018): 382,750
G60 (9 months 2025): 220,740 (290,000 for the full year)

 

[Swissbob]

I am not surprised, it’s almost as big a as an SWB 7er.

There’s significant cost cutting in the interior.

In Europe the engine options has been reduced significantly.

The new 540d is in fact only a 530d, there’s no real 540d on the market.

You want a typical BMW with a I6 Gasoline/Petrol engine, in Europe you can only order the 550e with a PHEV which is as heavy as the moon.

Even the M5 became a PHEV, which is absolutely ridiculous.

There’s no powerful 4 cylinder Diesel in 5er ( in the E-Class as well BTW) the 520d is barely adequate, there’s no powerful 4 cylinder Gasoline/Petrol engine as well, at least in Europe.
Instead there are 3 EV options.

I like the G60, although it’s very big for this class.

 

[SKY]

I just did a little research and it turns out the G60 is a sales failure compared to the previous 5 Series. Not only that, the G70 7 Series also lagged significantly behind previous generations. Bold designs weren't something anyone cared about.

F10, G30 and G60 first full year sales figures.

F10 (2011): 332,500
G30 (2018): 382,750
G60 (9 months 2025): 220,740 (290,000 for the full year)

Pretty sure what is s failure is not the 5er or the 7er, but sedans as a whole. Or have the W223 and W214 sold any better than the previous versions?

At some point, Germans will have to decide whether producing sedans is still viable. BMW seems to be giving the G70 and G60 +10 year lifespan, which is quite telling.

If sale figures of the current gen collapse, while the X5 and X7 remain popular, who knows…

 

[leylandi]

Pretty sure what is s failure is not the 5er or the 7er, but sedans as a whole. Or have the W223 and W214 sold any better than the previous versions?

At some point, Germans will have to decide whether producing sedans is still viable. BMW seems to be giving the G70 and G60 +10 year lifespan, which is quite telling.

If sale figures of the current gen collapse, while the X5 and X7 remain popular, who knows…

First full year

G11 (2017) : 64,311
G70 (2023) : 59,763 (incl. 8 Series)
W222 (2015) : 106,200 (incl. Coupe)
W223 (2022) : 117,500 + 23,500 EQS

 

[leylandi]

The most striking aspect is the G45's meager performance. This car was the best-selling model in the BMW product range. Look at its total sales, including the X4; it's far behind its predecessor.

 

[Tuffode]

Nice

First full year

G11 (2017) : 64,311
G70 (2023) : 59,763 (incl. 8 Series)
W222 (2015) : 106,200 (incl. Coupe)
W223 (2022) : 117,500 + 23,500 EQS

Nice, happy to see their shitty ass cars failing. Although the SUVs are definitely more than making up for it.

 

[klier]

Bot Leylandi is getting more advanced.
Its algorithm is able to look for past patterns. Too bad it is unable to interpret them like an actual human being with a functional brain.
But no worries, bots advance rapidly.

Concern trolling is a bannable offense. But what's even more striking is this MB troll bot even daring to compare sales numbers between BMW and Mercedes when BMW f#cking sells 300k more cars in a year. Cherry picking to troll, get the f#ck out of here LMAO

Also, public number give roughly 60k of the BMW X7 in 2024, and only God know how many GLS are sold because of MBs retarded top end pool or whatever they call the segment where they lump everything together.
Now given that in 2017 there was no X7 yet there was a GL Class, it seems logical to me some potential 7er buyers went for an X7 this time around. I know I know it's a completely wild take, but I am not a bot at least.