Hot! BMW AG: What's Next

[Swissbob]

They're electronically operated push button handles. Highly doubt it's more expensive. Maybe more expensive than the actual physical handles but less expensive overall due to simpler manufacturing of the door in general.

In case of a emergency they’re absolutely shit.

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[Uygar]

I am not sure where you are getting your measurements, but from Cadillac's own website, the current Escalade is 211.9 Inches long (5382.26 mm) and the Current MOPF X7 is 203.6 inches (5181 mm). The ESV is 227 inches long (5765.8 mm). The Escalade makes the X7 look like an X5 when viewed side-to side.

It was the previous generation Escalade. Blame the Wikipedia lol.

 

[Uygar]

So now we're switching to window trim mounted door handles. New X5, new X7, new Q7, and new Q9 will all have this type of door handle? Another cost cutting move? Saving money on stamping the doors for door handles?

While I can’t say anything about the money saving part, trim mounted door handles make the design look much cleaner.

 

[Design FIRST]

The semi-flush doorhandles on the EU Volkswagen ID's are power-independent and arguably a good compromise of design and safety.

 

[SKY]

The semi-flush doorhandles on the EU Volkswagen ID's are power-independent and arguably a good compromise of design and safety.

BMW does not even need to look at the competitors. The 4er GC, 2er Coupe and 5er door handles are perfect. No need for a change there.

 

[leylandi]

It is now clear that BMW will abandon this design and use recessed door handles. iX3/i3, G50, new X5/X7...

 

[Design FIRST]

BMW does not even need to look at the competitors. The 4er GC, 2er Coupe and 5er door handles are perfect. No need for a change there.

The BMW doorhandles indeed do look great. Although I believe that other than the actual door lock (which can be manually unlocked with a conventional key), they are power dependent. Not sure on that, though. I believe that the Volkswagen ID example can actually be pulled outwards, hence mimicking a conventional door handle.

 

[SKY]

According to the insider from Bimmerpost, there is a total lack of info regarding the next 8er. Which strongly implies it won’t exist.

At this stage, I just hope at least the 4er lives. But even that has gotten an extended life span. So let’s see how that goes…

 

[Gor134]

Team G50. Where is the G51?

 

[Uygar]

According to the insider from Bimmerpost, there is a total lack of info regarding the next 8er. Which strongly implies it won’t exist.

At this stage, I just hope at least the 4er lives. But even that has gotten an extended life span. So let’s see how that goes…

Every manufacturer is getting rid of their coupe’s. Unfortunately there’s no market left for them. Sad times.
Would be great if they made a new generation of 4er / 8er GC, but then again, it would make no sense since there’s already i3 and i5.

 

[Rolf]

This is very interesting news from China. Sales not looking good and it looks like BMW could be closing some plants or even withdrawing from China market.

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[Esp5]

This is very interesting news from China. Sales not looking good and it looks like BMW could be closing some plants or even withdrawing from China market.

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This is just clickbait from a random channel among thousands of random channels; there's no report of any of this in any serious news outlet. It's a video with footage from dealerships from 10 years ago.

Sales in China have fallen for everyone compared to the boom of a few years ago, that's all. Can you imagine withdrawing from the market where BMW sells the most cars in the world? Pure nonsense, the video is just fake news.

 

[klier]

So I was reading this Motortrend article on the iX3 and this quote here is why BMW's Neue Klasse tech is so impressive. It's not even the batteries or the charging, but the Heart of Joy:

We’ve extensively covered the iX3’s four-brain centralized computing architecture, noting that this arrangement has computers that receive sensor input directly, then send commands straight to the appropriate actuators. It’s a setup that eliminates the game of telephone most vehicles employ, relaying messages from one supplier’s chip to another’s communications relay, to another’s main controller and back.
BMW built the iX3’s entire system in-house—right down to its antilock-braking actuator. This shrinks response rates from between 10 and 50 milliseconds to 1 millisecond.

the vehicle’s brain dedicated to driving dynamics, dubbed Heart of Joy, converted our acceleration, deceleration, and cornering wishes into action. It does this by assessing, on a millisecond-by-millisecond basis, precisely how much grip there is at each tire’s contact patch.

The result: astonishing grip and agility that belies the vehicle’s roughly 5,050-plus pound weight (5,400 or so with two Americans onboard), even when fitted with midlevel 255/40R21 Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 6 tires like our test vehicle. The iX3’s ability to find and utilize available grip even when there’s spotty dampness in corners is amazing. And of course, each braking stop is electrically managed to be limo-smooth—no bobbing heads.

And this is interesting too, the Heart of Joy in the upcoming ICE cars vs the BEV cars:

The Heart of Joy’s bandwidth of capability will be greater with electric powertrains than with the hybrid or combustion variants to which the Neue Klasse electric architecture will eventually be applied. That’s because each motor is essentially a “driving-dynamics actuator” that can accelerate or regeneratively brake instantaneously; there’s no waiting around for gases to enter, compress, and explode.

Is the front axle devoting a big percentage of its grip to cornering? Then those tires won’t accept as much accelerative force, so torque gets biased rearward until the wheel unwinds. These are levers that combustion engines with mechanical drivetrains don’t have access to and that can’t effectively be employed in non-Neue Klasse EVs with a 50-millisecond response rate.

 

[klier]

The semi-flush doorhandles on the EU Volkswagen ID's are power-independent and arguably a good compromise of design and safety.

Also dangerous and less good for safety compared to this:

These door handles and the lack of certain physical buttons in the interior makes cars factually less safe than before and it's astonishing.

Who the f#ck cares if your electric milage is 0.002% less efficient? Are you joking????

 

[Centurion]

You get used to flush door handles quite quickly…..and then you open a door without them and get an elated sensation of “oh wow, this is so much easier. Physically and mentally.”

 

[leylandi]

4 Million cars Leipzig

4 Millionen aus Leipzig: BMW 1er F70 als Jubilar in Anglesey Green

Das BMW Werk Leipzig hat die Marke von 4 Millionen gebauten Fahrzeugen geknackt: Mit einem BMW 1er (F70) in Anglesey Green rollte Anfang Dezember das

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[Swissbob]

4 Million cars Leipzig

4 Millionen aus Leipzig: BMW 1er F70 als Jubilar in Anglesey Green

Das BMW Werk Leipzig hat die Marke von 4 Millionen gebauten Fahrzeugen geknackt: Mit einem BMW 1er (F70) in Anglesey Green rollte Anfang Dezember das

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Very interesting.

The i8 roadster is extremely rare.

 

[SCOTT27]

Very interesting.

The i8 roadster is extremely rare.

Indeed.