Vs BMW 135i vs. Japan

[CarGuy]

Cylinders S-6
Displacement 2979 cc (181.79 cu in)
Type DOHC
Compression ratio 10.20:1
Fuel system EFI
Maximum power 306.2 PS (302.0 bhp) (225.2 kW) @ 5800 rpm
Specific output 101.4 bhp/litre 1.66 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque 400.0 Nm (295 ft·lb) (40.8 kgm) @ 1300-5000 rpm
Specific torque 134.27 Nm/litre
Coolant Water
Unitary capacity 496.5 cc/cylinder
Aspiration Turbo
Kerb weight 1530 kg (3373 lb)
Power-to-weight 196.08 bhp/ton

Cylinders V-6 in 60.0° vee
Displacement 3498 cc (213.461 cu in)
Type DOHC
Compression ratio 10.60:1
Fuel system SMPFI
Maximum power 310.3 PS (306.0 bhp) (228.2 kW) @ 6800 rpm
Specific output 87.5 bhp/litre 1.43 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque 364.0 Nm (268 ft·lb) (37.1 kgm) @ 4800 rpm
Specific torque 104.06 Nm/litre
Coolant Water
Unitary capacity 583 cc/cylinder
Aspiration Normal
Kerb weight 1521 kg (3353 lb)
Power-to-weight 201.18 bhp/ton

Cylinders RC-2
Displacement 1308 cc (79.819 cu in)
Type Rotary
Compression ratio 10.00:1
Fuel system SFI
Maximum power 235.2 PS (232.0 bhp) (173 kW) @ 8250 rpm
Specific output 177.4 bhp/litre 2.90 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque 216.0 Nm (159 ft·lb) (22 kgm) @ 5500 rpm
Specific torque 165.14 Nm/litre
Coolant Water
Unitary capacity 654 cc/cylinder
Aspiration Normal
Kerb weight 1350 kg (2976 lb)
Power-to-weight 171.85 bhp/ton

Cylinders S-4
Displacement 2157 cc (131.628 cu in)
Type DOHC
Compression ratio 11.10:1
Fuel system PGM-FI
Maximum power 242.3 PS (239.0 bhp) (178.2 kW) @ 7800 rpm
Specific output 110.8 bhp/litre 1.82 bhp/cu in
Maximum torque 221.0 Nm (163 ft·lb) (22.5 kgm) @ 6500-7500 rpm
Specific torque 102.46 Nm/litre
Coolant Water
Unitary capacity 539.25 cc/cylinder
Aspiration Normal
Kerb weight 1260 kg (2778 lb)
Power-to-weight 189.68 bhp/ton

 

[NarutoRamen]

The S2000 Type S without a doubt. It's the most hard core of cars here and is under no mistaken identity. It's light, agile, revs until the end of time and corners like it's on rails...and best of all, this car communicates with you. The type S is pretty much a track car for the road, none of the other cars can claim that. Sure the Nismo Z is serious but with that porky weight it's not gonna get too far.

 

[castagna]

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[Mr Robert]

1. 135
2. Nismo
3. S2000
4. RX-8

 

[Tarek]

No brainer for me,the 135i please

 

[NarutoRamen]

It's funny. As much as people on this website bitch about how other car makers aren't hard core enough like a BMW and such...it's the softest one here and that gets the vote. LOL

 

[Mr Robert]

It's funny. As much as people on this website bitch about how other car makers aren't hard core enough like a BMW and such...it's the softest one here and that gets the vote. LOL

Well, I think it is a case of one fresh car against three ageing old farts which got a new set of suspensions and tires. Those modifications could easily be done to the new car as well, hence the result.

I know im simplifying a tad here but this i how I think the matter is perceived.

 

[Sunny]

I love the normal S2000, but that type S is too ricey. So is that 350Z.

 

[Zafiro]

I have long way to work and we are four persons in one car. Out of these , the 135i is the only car here to transport four people + I need space for bags and computers. 135i is better for everyday use than the other three cars.

 

[DeDe]

1. 135i in red
2. 135i in white
3. 135i in black
4. 135i in silver

 

[Cashmere]

1) As far as wishful thinking goes and I was being given the car for free, I would definitely take choose the 135i.

2) However if I was actually going to purchase the car from from my own pocket, definitely would be the Honda S2000! Since this scenario is more along the lines of reality I voted for the S2000.

On another note, I doubt I would ever purchase the 1 series. I still can digest the looks. I would rather add some extra dough and get the 335 coupe.

 

[Cashmere]

the 135i is the only car here to transport four people + I need space for bags and computers.

Actually, the RX-8 does have back seats (with significant leg room) and a boot/trunk

 

[Zafiro]

Actually, the RX-8 does have back seats (with significant leg room) and a boot/trunk

Its too small and too cramped, as a everyday car with practicality and comfort the 135i is hard to beat, at least in this gang.

check out this video, the backseat test :

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[NarutoRamen]

I have long way to work and we are four persons in one car. Out of these , the 135i is the only car here to transport four people + I need space for bags and computers. 135i is better for everyday use than the other three cars.

Sure, the 1er is more practical. But why would carguy list the 1 series, and then list the hardcore version of other cars that are not even it's competitors. I'm guessing that it had to to with, "what is better on track" hence the reason behind the competitors all being track specials. If that wasn't the case than this is a pretty biased and not well thought out pole.

 

[Sunny]

Closer Japanese competitors to 135 is Evo and STI. I would have a tough time choosing 135 over those though I might still choose it just cause I hate the way the new STI looks and 30 something guys driving an Evo is just sad (IMO of course).

 

[Zafiro]

Sure, the 1er is more practical. But why would carguy list the 1 series, and then list the hardcore version of other cars that are not even it's competitors. I'm guessing that it had to to with, "what is better on track" hence the reason behind the competitors all being track specials. If that wasn't the case than this is a pretty biased and not well thought out pole.

your choice its says, there are no criterias listed. Then he need to write more specific what we should vote for. I stated why i voted for 135i, i simply cant be driving the others for obvious reasons.
So you are saying i should stay the f out of this thread cause we cant vote for those reasons i listed earlier.

 

[klier]

your choice its says, there are no criterias listed. Then he need to write more specific what we should vote for. I stated why i voted for 135i, i simply cant be driving the others for obvious reasons.
So you are saying i should stay the f out of this thread cause we cant vote for those reasons i listed earlier.

Me neither, and my obvious reason is that the 135i is a lightyear better than those Japanese cars

 

[Bruce]

I'll take the S2000.

 

[Tarek]

It's funny. As much as people on this website bitch about how other car makers aren't hard core enough like a BMW and such...it's the softest one here and that gets the vote. LOL

Did u forget about the performance package of the 135i?

 

[cawimmer430]

My choices in this order:

1) BMW

2) Honda

3) Mazda

4) Nissan