Poll AZ: BMW M4 vs Lexus RC F and Porsche 911 Carrera GTS

[fuhro]

Out of the latest AutoZeitung:

.....BMW M4.....Lexus RC F.....Porsche Carrera GTS

Data:

Weight:........1620 kg.....1842 kg.....1501 kg

0-40 kph:.....1,5 s..........1,5 s.........1,2 s
0-100 kph:....4,4 s..........4,5 s.........3,9 s
0-160 kph:....9,2 s..........9,9 s.........8,4 s
0-200 kph:...13,9 s.........15,1 s.......13,0 s

Laptime Hockenheim GP (4,6 km):.....1.59,8.....2.02,4.....1.56,9
Slalom 18m:.....70,9 kph.....69,3 kph.....72,0 kph

Braking 100-0(cold/warm):.....35,6/33,4.....33,4/32,7.....33,7/31,8

Fuel Consumption:.....11,2 l.....13,3 l.....12,4 l
Price:.....72500€.....74900€.....117549€

Rating:

Body: M4-577 points (more space and a good safety equipment)
.........RC F-526 points (bad functionality)
.........GTS-492 points (very few space in the rear and a small trunk, lack of safety equipment)

Comfort: M4-673 points (comfortable ride)
............RC F-650 points (good seats, but a bad ride)
............GTS-624 points (very loud, better ride than RC F)

Drivetrain: GTS-656 points (highest topspeed and best acceleration)
...............M4-652 points (quite efficient and best gearbox)
..............RC F-596 points (not very efficient)

Driving Dynamics: GTS-835 points (best brakes and handling)
.........................M4-769 points (good handling but poor cold braking)
........................RC F-759 points (good brakes but worse handling and steering than the others)

Costs: M4-228 points (not much to say, just look at the prices)
.........RC F-214 points
.........GTS-185 points


Verdict:

1st place: BMW M4 Coupé (2899 points)
2nd place: Porsche 911 Carrera GTS (2792 points)
3rd place: Lexus RC F (2745 points)

"The new Porsche Carrera GTS has reached its aim: It wins the Drivetrain-chapter and sets a new bar in handling. But nevertheless it is only placed 2nd. The GTS is simply too expensive and not very spacy-it also has a poor safety equipment. The BMW M4 is a deserved winner. It is good both in everyday driving and on the racetrack-and it has a fair price. The Lexus RC F is the third winner. It does everything right, but nothing better than Porsche and BMW. It lacks a good finishing and it is too heavy."

Translated to English by myself, hope you understand something

 

[fuhro]

Sorry double thread, please remove.
I am not used to post here

 

[klier]

I can choose the M4 here and the GTS in the other thread. Perfect.

 

[martinbo]

We'll just keep this thread going...

 

[Beemer B773ER]

Even when you exclude the Pricing advantage of the M4 over the GTS, the Beemer still comes out on top in points. Of course outright performance the Porsche is better. An 80 year old would draw the same conclusion just by look at the shape and size of the GTS vs the M4.

 

[klier]

Agreed, the GTS is a true sports car and the M4 is a coupe for 4 adults and a proper boot.

 

[Soup]

 

[klier]

The M4 CSL/GTS will kill off every single 911 south of the GT3 on the track. No doubt whatsoever.

 

[klier]

The M4 CSL/GTS will kill off every single 911 south of the GT3 on the track. No doubt whatsoever.

 

[donkeykong]

It got a bit out classed as it stands. I was particularly surprised by how the GTS pulls away from the M in a straight line.

 

[Kowalski]

The Lexus is a fat bastard.

 

[klier]

True, but it weighs a lot less. The M4 GTS should be in the same ballpark weight wise, but with more power.

The Lexus is a fat bastard.

Yeah, 350 kg more than the GTS is impressive.

 

[Zafiro]

Christ, didnt think of it but GTS has the same power as M4. Forza lightness!

 

[mini_cooper4]

The M4 CSL/GTS will kill off every single 911 south of the GT3 on the track. No doubt whatsoever.

Unfortunately the 991.2 models will be out by then.
We all know that Porsche's .2 isn't simply a facelift.

 

[DeDe]

That track-chart is full of mistakes... the topspeeds on the Start/Finish line are wrong, not to mention the fact that they switched the speeds of the M4 and RC F everywhere...

 

[DocM]

I've come to really like the M4 and looking forward to variants of it to come. My only quibble with it is some aspect of its interior, specifically the open cup holder area. Hopefully the LCI can address that. But I'm nit picking .
I wouldn't get the Lexus, simply not my cup of tea and too heavy. In a perfect world I'd have both the 911GTS and an M3/4. If I can only have one, then it would be the 911GTS.

 

[Soup]

That track-chart is full of mistakes... the topspeeds on the Start/Finish line are wrong, not to mention the fact that they switched the speeds of the M4 and RC F everywhere...

I was wondering how the heck the RC F could be faster and set a slower lap time

Make that two now, Autocar and AZ and sometimes ABSports