Vs Autocar: Audi RS5 vs BMW M3
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I've had the pleasure to drive both the M3 and RS5 and its two awesome cars, brilliant machines. If I could choose one though, my choice is M3 - it feels more playful than the RS5 + I prefer the steering and the exterior.
But I have full respect if someone want the RS5 instead.
But I have full respect if someone want the RS5 instead.
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I think both of these cares are amazing. If one takes a look at them they are two different manufacturers producing two equally beautiful and amazing driving machines. I personally would get the M3, or at least I think I would. I have never driven the RS5, but I am sure it is a joy to drive. You can't go wrong with either one.
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Nice to see you're still alive Michael
Hey buddy! I hope you have been doing well. I am glad to be back.
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Interesting report, it's right what they were saying there, in that the Audi has a slight composure advantage over the M3 in such a challenging course and that it does give the driver that little bit more confidence to push, plus it's superior traction out of the corners but no denying the M3 was the more frisky and playful of the two and in the end there wasn't really anything in it between them.
Two magnificent machines.
Two magnificent machines.
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Car Magazine absolutely trashed the RS5 in their comparison with the M3, C63 and IsF.
2 of the 3 testers gave their nod to the C63, however the tester who wrote the article preffered the M3.
2 of the 3 testers gave their nod to the C63, however the tester who wrote the article preffered the M3.
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Typically give-n-take motoring as would be expected from these two protagonists. In some instances the RS5 holds an advantage, in others, the M3 does. We'd expect nothing less no?
I must say, the M3 does appear to be the more supple of the two? Is this assumption correct?
I must say, the M3 does appear to be the more supple of the two? Is this assumption correct?
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The guys are very familiar with Millbrook testing centre, it's the place that Autocar do all their data testing.
This video piece was part of a full test that included the Porsche Cayenne Turbo, the M3 CP, the RS5, the Megane Coupe, the Lamborghini Gallardo superleggera and the latest GTR.
Order of lap times slowest first.
Porsche Cayenne Turbo
M3 CP
Megane Coupe
RS5
Gallardo Superleggera
GTR.
Who would have thought a humble fwd would have split the M3 and RS5.
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Who would have thought a humble fwd would have split the M3 and RS5.
Humble FWD? Have you ever been behind the wheel of a Megane R26.R in a racetrack?
Not to mention driving it with all possible wheel combinations
Seriously, the Megane Renault Sport versions can offer so much more driving pleasure than most of the RWD sportcars out there, that you won't believe it!
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Not the R but I did try the R26, class little thing, full of rattles but boy could it carry speed through the corners.
Not to mention driving it with all possible wheel combinations
Now, play nice or I will be nasty back.
Still struggling to understand why so many find driving the 5er in 18", 19" and standard and adaptive suspension options as unusual.
Seriously, the Megane Renault Sport versions can offer so much more driving pleasure than most of the RWD sportcars out there, that you won't believe it!
BTW my comment was a part joke at those who consider fwd as inferior, I thought you would have got that one but clearly this when right over even your head.
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That RS5 is magnificent! My choice without a doubt followed by the C63 as Tarek mentioned earlier.
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Nice video.
p.s. Although, I hate AutoCar in the way they conduct tests for example, a ZR-1 getting killed in a drag race by a GT2 and not catching it even by 1 mile.
If I recall right, they had a hard time with the gear changes and getting it off the line cleanly. You also need to remember that these press cars are given a lot of abuse and maybe the clutch on that example wasn't at it's best.
As for this test between the RS5 and M3, I think it's much more relevant than most other tests because you see both being compared on the same road at the same time. Switch the cars round and the result would have been the same because these two cars are so closely matched, the only difference is their approach to achieve the same results.
Yes, that is an interesting result. Happen to have the times?This video piece was part of a full test that included the Porsche Cayenne Turbo, the M3 CP, the RS5, the Megane Coupe, the Lamborghini Gallardo superleggera and the latest GTR.
Order of lap times slowest first.
Porsche Cayenne Turbo
M3 CP
Megane Coupe
RS5
Gallardo Superleggera
GTR.
Who would have thought a humble fwd would have split the M3 and RS5.
As for GT2 vs ZR1, the weight bias of the rear-engined Porsche will definitely help on a runway surface. Then there is the matter of LHD vs RHD. But that's no more a fault of the drivers than it is the fault of GM. We've seen from data published by Auto Bild (taken from Motor Trend's test on a high grip surface) that the GT2 pulls very strongly all the way to 300 kph; any sizeable advantage from the start will be very difficult for the ZR1 to overcome.
How does LHD vs RHD affect the outcome?? Just curious?
I do agree with the surface conditions analogy. The ZR-1's tires were not gripping on that dusty old runway AutoCar always is using with lots of cracks while the GT2's rear bias was helping it.
In the MotorTrend comparison, like you said the high grip surface made the ZR-1 grip properly and the GT2 fell by the way side past the 1/4 mile.
I do agree with the surface conditions analogy. The ZR-1's tires were not gripping on that dusty old runway AutoCar always is using with lots of cracks while the GT2's rear bias was helping it.
In the MotorTrend comparison, like you said the high grip surface made the ZR-1 grip properly and the GT2 fell by the way side past the 1/4 mile.
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