Vs AutoBild - BMW M3 DKG vs. Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK

[DeDe]

Short comparison.



1st place - 260/300 pts. - Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK
-3800 ccm, 385 hp, 420 Nm
-300 km/h Vmax.
-0-100 km/h in 4,2 s (wow! )
-0-200 km/h in 14,5 s
-Braking 100-0 km/h (cold/warm): 33,1 m/33,5 m
-12,8 l/100 km
-Price as tested: 106 619 €

2nd place - 241/300 pts. - BMW M3 Coupe DKG
-3999 ccm, 420 hp, 400 Nm
-250 km/h Vmax.
-0-100 km/h in 5,3 s eusa_thin)
-0-200 km/h in 16,5 s
-Braking 100-0 km/h (cold/warm): 34,9 m/34,2 m
-13,0 l/100 km
-Price as tested: 72 870 €

 

[LaArtist]

I guess the porsche is just 1 number to big for the M3

 

[EnI]

In which DCT mode did they test it? The most comfortable one?

The figure is very weird.
The same magazine tested the M3 manual: 4.8s 0-100km/h, 15.2s 0-200km/h.

So, Autobild was able to make DCT less effective & sporty than the manual.

 

[DeDe]

In which DCT mode did they test it? The most comfortable one?

The figure is very weird.
The same magazine tested the M3 manual: 4.8s 0-100km/h, 15.2s 0-200km/h.

AMS did 4,6 seconds with both M3's (manual and DKG). So this is really a bad time...

BUT! The Porsche's time is fantastic! As fast as a 996 Turbo!

 

[Zafiro]

M5board.com did a 0-200km/h test with their M3 Convertible DCT with a proper meassure-instrument and clocked the car in 16.7 sec.
Thats almost as fast as Autobilds 0-200km/h time and we seen the video were the M3 E92 DCT beats the M3 Convertible easily.

Autobild got a lousy time - thats all and not a big deal honestly. The M3 E92 DCT can be faster than 16.5 sec, thats for sure.

 

[Mr Robert]

I guess the porsche is just 1 number to big for the M3

Sort of, but the only thing really separating them on paper is those irregular 0-100 and 0-200 times... oh, well, and €30k+...

 

[chonkoa]

I agree with the comments on the M3's 0-100 km/hr time, it is suspect.

 

[Zafiro]

Autobild did say the M3 had better comfort and better for long distance driving but the FL 911 is the sportiest car.

In latest AMS there is a comparison between R8 and 997 S PDK and the porsche beat the R8.

Audi R8(R-Tronic) against Porsche 997 Carrera S(PDK)

0-100 km/h
911 = 4,4s
R8 = 4,5s

0-200 km/h
911 = 15,5s
R8 = 16,1s

 

[speed_kills]

Poor M3, a sporty car compared with a sports car.

I think Porsche always have to win this comparisons, they're a sports car brand (forget the cayenne), designed from scratch to be effective and light.
The M3 is just a 3 series with some touches, is good but it will never be as good as Porsche.

However, BMW could do something to make their cars sportier. For instance: make a special lighweight pack (remove back seat, minimunim equipment, no i drive, lighweight 18's) and could make it a option from fabric. They could put the gearbox at the back also.

 

[Centurion]

I wonder have they achieved those figures. The figure for the 911 is sketchy as well, 4.2 is ridiculously fast, that's GT3 territory right there. They must have towed the 911 to a Veyron or something while the M3 was dragging on a 116i.

 

[Mr Robert]

I wonder have they achieved those figures. The figure for the 911 is sketchy as well, 4.2 is ridiculously fast, that's GT3 territory right there. They must have towed the 911 to a Veyron or something while the M3 was dragging on a 116i.

Ah, it is getting so much clearer now

 

[Sunny]

Definitely 911S, unless you have to carry 4 people.

 

[Merc1]

911 for me too. I get the feeling the M3 pushes the 911 in some way to be greater with each re-design, right along with the 911's natural competitors. Porsche can't let a mere "3-Series" show up their marquee sports car.

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