A5/S5/RS5 Audi RS5 Thread (Spy pics & info)

[bmer]

they should just stick in the tt-rs engine, up the boost, bigger intercooler etc and aim for 450hp and 600nm.

The 2.0 TFSI is already capable of 380hp and 540nm of torque on the standard turbo so thats the route I would go!

^A turbo charged 4 pot (no matter how good it is) will never gonna cut in a V8 dominating segment.

I think Poverty used the 2.0 TFSI as an example to show the how flexible the turbocharged engines are in power output and to give a yardstick for the estimation of what the 5-cylinder turbo engine in the TT-RS could be capable of delivering.

However I do agree with you on the V8 engine, I also hope the RS5 will get one.

 

[Bartek S.]

Spy Video: 2010 Audi RS5 Hits the Nurburgring

edmunds.com/straightline/2009/04/spy-video-2010-audi-rs5-hits-the-nurburgring.html?

 

[NarutoRamen]

^^From the video, it does sound like a V8. I wonder if they might try to supercharge the V8? Forced induction doesn't have to be turbos.

 

[Bartek S.]

Audi RS5 Spied with Retractable Rear Spoiler - Ur-quattro revival rumours surface

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090427...r-spoiler--ur-quattro-revival-rumours-surface
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090427...r-spoiler--ur-quattro-revival-rumours-surface
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090427...r-spoiler--ur-quattro-revival-rumours-surface
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090427...r-spoiler--ur-quattro-revival-rumours-surface
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090427...r-spoiler--ur-quattro-revival-rumours-surface

 

[NarutoRamen]

^^I think the retractable wing is pretty neat.

 

[bmer]

This is going to be one mean machine!

 

[NarutoRamen]

This is going to be one mean machine!

I hope so!

 

[CarGuy]

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[Sunny]

Definitely sounds like a NA V8.
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[NarutoRamen]

^^Yep.

 

[Centurion]

What do you guys think, 4.8l with an output of 450-460hp?

 

[LaArtist]

500+^

RS6 has 580 RS4 had 420 so yeah around 500 i think.. and i hope so cause this car will be extremely expensive..

 

[PanterroR]

Audi will fit a refettled naturally aspirated 4.2-litre V8 to its secret new RS5, CAR can confirm. We had previously reported the RS5 would use a twin-turbo iteration of this engine, but a senior source has told us it will not feature forced induction.

We’re told it’s the same high-revving engine that powered the outgoing RS4, albeit spruced up with the latest Ingolstadt know-how. Our previous disclosures are however still accurate, pointing to outputs around 450bhp and 332lb ft, 0-62mph in four-point-something seconds and the possibility of some weight-saving applications to trim a few kilos.


Source: Audi RS5 engine confirmed, plus RS5 cabrio | Automotive & Motoring News | Car Magazine Online

 

[NarutoRamen]

^^I think I'll still agree with Artist on this. I think it will be closer to the 500hp number. I'm guessing somewhere between 450-500hp. May be the magic number will be 480.

 

[Sunny]

It will really interesting how much power will they give this car. If they give it the same 420HP in RS4 (assuming ~4.2l NA engine), it will struggle against M3/C63. If they give it 480HP, it does make the R8 V8 version look a bit underpowered. It is already not much faster than a M3 and actually slower than 911S with PDK. A 480HP RS5 with DCT would destroy it. They could update the V8 in the R8 too but that would make the R8 V10 version look even more pointless.

 

[Centurion]

It will really interesting how much power will they give this car. If they give it the same 420HP in RS4 (assuming ~4.2l NA engine), it will struggle against M3/C63. If they give it 480HP, it does make the R8 V8 version look a bit underpowered. It is already not much faster than a M3 and actually slower than 911S with PDK. A 480HP RS5 with DCT would destroy it. They could update the V8 in the R8 too but that would make the R8 V10 version look even more pointless.

It's a little bit of a mess isn't it? But Audi have to move on and in that process slay the R8 V8 which is almost a 3 year old car now, and the focus is on the V10 version. So the timing is al right as the RS5 can impossibly upstage the R8 V10. Performance wise the RS5 should perfectly slot in between the E92 M3 and the next generation. What ever engine powering the car will be the same one under the hood of the new RS4 which should take the stage sometime late next year. 480hp is a healthy number, 100hp shy of the V10TT power house in the RS6. And the car wouldn't appear ancient against the next M3.

 

[Sunny]

If it does indeed have 480HP, the other interesting comparison would be GTR. Both will have 480HP, probably cost the same (~$80k) and weigh around the same too. Both will have AWD and DCT. My money is on the GTR though, it is amazing how much development Nissan is still doing to the car.

 

[NarutoRamen]

it is amazing how much development Nissan is still doing to the car.

That's nothing new. Japanese automakers ALWAYS revise their sports cars almost every year. Since the introduction of the FD-RX7, it's been revised a billion times. S2000 been revised a ton, the NSX been revised a ton and the BNR-34 GTR also has been revised a million times. It's just how they do it over there.

 

[Sunny]

That's nothing new. Japanese automakers ALWAYS revise their sports cars almost every year. Since the introduction of the FD-RX7, it's been revised a billion times. S2000 been revised a ton, the NSX been revised a ton and the BNR-34 GTR also has been revised a million times. It's just how they do it over there.

Yea, I had no idea. It is only now since I started following NAGTROC.com, I realized. People blame Japanese cars for lacking passion, but if we look at the passion of the engineers behind cars like the GTR, the Japanese are second to none, not even the Italians.

 

[NarutoRamen]

Yea, I had no idea. It is only now since I started following NAGTROC.com, I realized. People blame Japanese cars for lacking passion, but if we look at the passion of the engineers behind cars like the GTR, the Japanese are second to none, not even the Italians.

The people who say Japanese cars (or car from any other country) lack passion are biased pieces of sh!ts. To say that the guy building the GTR or the guys who built the NSX lacked passion versus some dude in Ferrari factory or what have you is just f__king stupid. At the end of the day they all are doing a job.

You want to find passion? Find me the dude who has worked for a company for 20 years and never got paid, now THAT is passion. Working for a paycheck is not passion, sorry to break it to you. You could be passionate about your job, i.e. you love your job, but real passion means you will do it no matter what. Take the paycheck away from anyone at those factories and they'll be pissed off and call names.