Rumors Audi buys McLaren Group to secure Formula 1 entry


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Crazy news. Not quite sure what to make of it yet. Reportedly BMW was also interested, but I guess they lost the bid - which is a shame. Audi already owns Lamborghini and MB has a large stake in Aston Martin and are making supercars themselves. BMW was the only one who didn't have a supercar brand under its wings and they also already have a link to Mclaren through the Mclaren F1 engine.

Audi buys McLaren Group to secure Formula 1 entry
 
Crazy news. Not quite sure what to make of it yet. Reportedly BMW was also interested, but I guess they lost the bid - which is a shame. Audi already owns Lamborghini and MB has a large stake in Aston Martin and are making supercars themselves. BMW was the only one who didn't have a supercar brand under its wings and they also already have a link to Mclaren through the Mclaren F1 engine.
Ouch... McLaren's "uniqueness" (no sharing with other manufacturers till now) is at high risk. That might be for the better on some items (electronics, infotainment), but what about the rest (powertrain...) ?
 
Wow. I hope they don't rebrand the McLaren F1 Team as "Audi". I can't believe they won't, however. Maybe "McLaren-Audi" or "McLaren-Porsche".
 
WOW, didn't see that coming. Audi, Bentley, Porsche, Lamborghini, Rimac, Bugatti, Ducati and now McLaren, just to name the headliners. Yikes. There is nothing they can't build with this much engineering expertise on hand.

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If the BMW rumors are to be believed, they really missed on this one. Would have fitted like a glove to their portifolio.

That being said, as was the case with all other major brands bought by the VW group, I think overall McLaren will be in good hands and will benefit from this.
 
BMW generally had no interest in purchasing McLaren. VAG have been constantly swimming around that island waiting to pounce.
 
BMW generally had no interest in purchasing McLaren. VAG have been constantly swimming around that island waiting to pounce.

That may actually be true. I vaguely recall that some 1 1/2-to- 2 years ago, there were some cryptic "insider" ramblings pertaining to McLarens' search for a suitable BEV platform. McLarens' vision was an expansion of their road vehicle assortment that would encompass electric elevated ride height SUV/SACs as well as electric low ride height 2+2 4 door GTs. VAG, during that time, expressed their willingness to supply the upcoming Audi/Porsche PPE toolkit to smaller, specialized outside manufacturers.
 
It would be an absolute disaster to see McLaren become another rebadged generic soulless VAG car. AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER!!!!

God I so hope this is not true, which seems to be the case anyhow:

McLaren Group denies being bought by Audi

Brand issues statement after an Autocar source reported Audi had acquired McLaren with a view to racing in F1
 
It would be an absolute disaster to see McLaren become another rebadged generic soulless VAG car. AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER!!!!

God I so hope this is not true, which seems to be the case anyhow:

McLaren Group denies being bought by Audi
Brand issues statement after an Autocar source reported Audi had acquired McLaren with a view to racing in F1

My thoughts exactly. McLaren represents the epithome of independent high performance vehicles.

Here is hoping VAG does not get any close to it.
 
It would be an absolute disaster to see McLaren become another rebadged generic soulless VAG car. AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER!!!!

God I so hope this is not true, which seems to be the case anyhow:

McLaren Group denies being bought by Audi
Brand issues statement after an Autocar source reported Audi had acquired McLaren with a view to racing in F1

Whoa ! Should that piece of "news" turn out to be a "dud", that would be pretty scandalous.

Yep-it seems that you can't trust anything that appears in the media nowadays.
 
Mclaren's statment leaves a lot of possibilities.

They've said it's wholly inaccurate, not unfounded, and then clarified that there's been no change of ownership of Mclaren Group.

That could very easily allow for Audi/VW having bought Mclaren Racing, and/or someone (perhaps BMW) buying Mclaren Automotive.... which is tremendously unlikely, but clearly something it going on behind the scenes at Mclaren.

CAR published this last night...


► Audi and BMW vying for McLaren assets
► BMW wants the supercar division
► Audi keen on Formula 1 team too


McLaren, the legendary Formula 1 team and supercar maker, is an acquisition target for both BMW and Audi.

BMW is reportedly focused on acquiring McLaren Automotive, the maker of cars including the Senna, 765LT and upcoming hybrid Artura. It would sit nicely in the company’s stable of British brands alongside Rolls-Royce and Mini.

Audi, meanwhile, wants the supercar business as well as the F1 team. Audi’s owner Volkswagen Group continually circles the pinnacle of motor racing, with both its Porsche and Audi brands periodically tipped to join the series.

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Is McLaren vulnerable to a takeover?
McLaren has suffered a torrid time due to Covid-19. The Automotive division recorded a £222.9million operating loss in 2020, a swing from £91.1m profit in 2019. Last year, sales crashed by 64 per cent to 1659 cars.

McLaren had to make some 830 redundancies. And the group has been involved in a critical refinancing, selling the Woking HQ and leasing it back, and issuing £550m of new shares to provide liquidity and pay off a £150m loan.

The situation has improved in 2021, with revenue doubling in the first half of the year. However McLaren Automotive CEO Mike Flewitt (below) stood down in late October, after eight years in charge. One of his final acts was to start evolving the Track25 strategy, which proposed the launch of 18 new models in a six-year timeframe, into a plan called Horizon 2030. This is likely to slow down the pace of new derivatives, in favour of higher margin models and an electrification push.

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Two former Volkswagen Group executives – both appointed McLaren Group non-executive directors in early October – will steer Automotive for an interim period. They are former Porsche CEO Michael Macht, who will run the technical and operations side, and Stefan Jacoby, who also worked at GM and Mitsubishi.

Talks with BMW said to be looming
Behind the scenes, mediators, brokers and agents have been busy examining options, assessing values, establishing strategies and evaluating risks and opportunities. A key player is Mumtalakat, the Bahrain state investment fund which owns about 42 per cent of McLaren. Reportedly Mumtalakat will have its first, on-the-record meeting with BMW in early December.

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BMW has had ties with McLaren since providing the iconic F1 supercar’s V12 in the ‘90s. A few years back, the two companies had talks about McLaren collaborating on a mid-engined supercar for Munich, but the project never got off the ground.

For BMW, acquiring McLaren would kick the door to supercar heaven wide open. And BMW could do with a new sports car plan, because the cupboard is bare. The M8 is an overweight GT, the Z4 wouldn’t exist without Toyota and brand-shaping halo cars like Z8 or i8 are history.

Tag on to McLaren, however, and BMW would get instant access to a fresh line-up of potentially class-leading supercars and hypercars. Insiders claim that the engineering and design work needed to spin-off BMWs from McLarens is feasible, and the budget risks marginal. BMW would be confident of assisting development of McLaren’s high-performance electrified drivetrains, given it’s making the next M5 an excessively-powered plug-in hybrid and is pressing ahead with its next-generation of ground-up electric cars, the Neue Klasse.

It’s a mouth-watering proposition: a bunch of mid-engined BMW-McLarens to take on AMG-Aston Martin and Porsche/Audi/Lamborghini. It’s not clear whether BMW will go all-in for the F1 team too: it withdrew from the sport in 2009, in the midst of the Great Financial Crisis.

How would Audi benefit?
According to those in the know, Audi is bidding for McLaren Cars and for the F1 unit, said to be worth around £1 billion. Jörg Astalosch, 49, is the designated chief liaison officer in the Audi-McLaren talks. Previously in charge of Ital Design (also an Audi satellite), the former confidant of VW Group supremo Ferdinand Piech started his new job in October.

The new FIA regulations for 2026 are soon to be officially announced, which is expected to trigger Volkswagen Group’s official application to enter the series – run by Stefano Domenicali, former Lamborghini CEO. Adam Baker went the other way: from the FIA to VW Group to run its motorsports programmes.

Audi and Porsche are likely to fuse the F1 R&D work while retaining different set-ups and visual identities. One scenario suggests that Audi/McLaren will partner with Porsche/Red Bull to fight Ferrari and Mercedes in the upcoming hybrid/sustainable fuels era.

This could be a profitable enterprise for Audi and Volkswagen Group. Mercedes CEO Ola Källenius revealed last year that the AMG Petronas F1 commitment creates an annual media value of $1.5bn - and rising. Since Audi has pulled out of DTM and Formula E, the return on investment looks potentially sound.

But surely VW has too many sports car brands?
Rumours suggest Volkswagen Group has considered divesting brands including Lamborghini and Ducati; CAR’s Georg Kacher broke the story of Bugatti being spun-off to Croatian EV pioneer Rimac. So why bid for McLaren?

While the F1 connection is self-explanatory, an Ingolstadt source revealed, there are logical reasons to acquire McLaren Automotive. One is defensive: to block rivals from Korea or China – Geely reportedly was in talks with McLaren Cars last year – or arch-rival BMW.

In the long run McLaren could end up in sync with Bentley and Lambo to boost synergy effects in a profitable but increasingly volatile market. And in a single decade, McLaren has raced from nowhere to matching Ferrari and Lamborghini in ability and desirability – and there are admirers within the group who fancy driving it forward themselves.

It's not the first time BMW and VW Group have gone head-to-head for a blue-chip British car maker. In the late '90s both sought the then-combined Rolls-Royce and Bentley – with BMW ultimately getting the Spirit of Ecstasy and VW the Winged B.
 
Any way this cookie crumbles, it's a sad day regarding McLaren's independence because that's going to be gobbled up by whoever is bid winner.

That said, for those working there, they will likely benefit from this lifeline, at least in the short to medium term. And they will benefit in having partner when it comes to BEV development.
 
I would have thought Mercedes-Benz would be a better partner for McLaren.

McLaren Group will go to the highest bidder. The group is in some financial strife and the shareholders want to see some long overdue return on their investment. £1billion may not sound like a lot these days but one needs to bear in mind that McLaren sold its factory compound in a sale and leaseback deal not long ago so there isn’t a lot of valuable fixed assets left on McLaren’s balance sheet. So prospective buyers are buying the brand name, the people/technical know-how, an entry into F1, and a roadcar business that requires substantial funding and other resources going forward.

Some question marks. What would happen to McLaren’s power unit deal with Mercedes-AMG if McLaren is taken over by Audi? I can already see Porsche vetoing an Audi-McLaren tie up at the VAG board. Porsche would never allow Audi to usurp its role as the top performance marque in the VAG. Porsche would not let Audi buy McLaren if they manage to do a deal with Red Bull and gets hold of Honda’s power unit rights.

BMW looks like a good fit and has always had good relationships with McLaren and definitely have the resources to make things work. But again, the Mercedes-AMG power unit is a major complication to such a deal.

I agree Mercedes-AMG is also a good fit as they are engine suppliers to McLaren already. But INEOS bought a shareholding in the Mercedes-AMG F1 team and Mercedes’ relationship with Aston Martin might be a minor complication. Does Ola Kallenius and Toto Wolff need such a distraction at this moment in time?

Looks like nobody wants Williams........unless Mercedes-AMG wants to remain in F1 for the long haul and want a junior team like Ferrari and Alfa Romeo or Red Bull and Alpha Tauri.
 
I’ve always thought Aston Martin would be a perfect fit for BMW. Building them alongside Rolls-Royce’s at Goodwood.
I remember this exact scenario when BMW flirted with buying Porsche in the late eighties.
 
It may be part of the tug of war of ongoing negotiations by two potential stakeholders, the news is everywhere to be just speculation, but who knows.
It is still interesting although at the moment it is only smoke
 
Audi already owns Lamborghini
For BMW it would be an easy and direct entry into the world of supercars,
being able to incorporate the Mnext under that umbrella perhaps
It also enters into the philosophy of managing only premium brands under the group
I think all this news we talked about it a long time ago, many months, dejavu? or was it the time necessary for due diligence .....
 

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