Comparison tests AMuS & AutoBild - New VW Golf R vs Audi S3 Sportback & BMW M135i xDrive

[Sayyaaf]

Once I read that the Golf R had a next generation Haldex system I knew it is going to be superior. The new system can act more rear biased (up to 100% I read). No wonder here.

 

[Zafiro]

Once I read that the Golf R had a next generation Haldex system I knew it is going to be superior. The new system can act more rear biased (up to 100% I read). No wonder here.

Haldex is a Swedish company. Say thanks to the swedes

 

[klier]

Once I read that the Golf R had a next generation Haldex system I knew it is going to be superior. The new system can act more rear biased (up to 100% I read). No wonder here.

And an M135i is always 100% RWD when it's no xDrive.

M135i 6 speed RWD is king and will always be king in this class. A king with an ugly snout.

 

[Deckhook]

Once I read that the Golf R had a next generation Haldex system I knew it is going to be superior. The new system can act more rear biased (up to 100% I read). No wonder here.

I think the term they use is 100% of the available torque can be transferred to the rear but I believe this is also true for the last version as well, I still believe the maximum power split across axles is 50/50%.

In any case we've own both the Mk5 and Mk6 versions of the GTI and in my opinion both has been superior to their equivalent Audis in every way be that sportiest, handling and even composure so to hear the Mk7 is continuing this trend doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Haldex is a Swedish company. Say thanks to the swedes

add that to "Things you don't know about sVeden"

 

[DeDe]

Strange that for AMS/Autobild tests even though the Golf is the lightest car it is considerably slower than the other 2 cars, could it be cause of the 6 speed manual box? The Autozeitung test the Golf is the equal of the other 2 in performance and that car has a DsG box!

Yes, it's all because of DSG and Launch Control.

 

[DeDe]

Peugeot RCZ R is faster than M135i and Golf R around Contidrom (source: today's new AutoBild).

Here's the new Contridrom hot-hatch toplist:
1:36,62 min - Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
1:37,01 min - Peugeot RCZ R
1:37,35 min - BMW M135i xDrive
1:37,53 min - Volkswagen Golf Mk7 R
1:38,38 min - Audi S3 Sportback S-tronic My2013
1:39,90 min - Renault Mégane RS MY2014
1:41,27 min - Audi A1 quattro
1:43,79 min - Renault Clio RS Cup (2012)

 

[Zafiro]

Peugeot RCZ R is faster than M135i and Golf R around Contidrom (source: today's new AutoBild).

Here's the new Contridrom hot-hatch toplist:
1:36,62 min - Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
1:37,01 min - Peugeot RCZ R
1:37,35 min - BMW M135i xDrive
1:37,53 min - Volkswagen Golf Mk7 R
1:38,38 min - Audi S3 Sportback S-tronic My2013
1:39,90 min - Renault Mégane RS MY2014
1:41,27 min - Audi A1 quattro
1:43,79 min - Renault Clio RS Cup (2012)

Off-topic but is there laptime for Fiesta ST?

 

[martinbo]

Haldex is a Swedish company. Say thanks to the swedes

Haldex of Sweden no is no longer involved in making passenger car AWD systems. They made the decision to sell their traction division to Borg Warner - them of OEM supplier to VAG fame - at the end of 2010.
All the same, we do have the Swedes to thank for this highly innovative "bolt-on" solution for FWD architectured all-wheel drive vehicles.

 

[DeDe]

Off-topic but is there laptime for Fiesta ST?

As far as I know, no.

 

[klier]

Peugeot RCZ R is faster than M135i and Golf R around Contidrom (source: today's new AutoBild).

1:36,62 min - Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
1:37,01 min - Peugeot RCZ R
1:37,35 min - BMW M135i xDrive
1:37,53 min - Volkswagen Golf Mk7 R

Holy crap???? Peugeot? Megaton!

 

[DeDe]

Holy crap???? Peugeot? Megaton!

Yes, and it also managed a faster laptime at the Sachsenring as the Cayman PDK... (comparison is in today's AutoBild Sportscars)

1:40,40 - RCZ R
1:40,85 - Cayman PDK

(ohh and it was 0,5 s quicker than the M235i... )

RCZ R = FWD weapon!

 

[klier]

My God, the world upside down.

Never in a thousand years I would have believed this if it wasn't black on white! Was the car on slicks? Did they give it nitrogen? 100 hp extra? An extra engine in the back?

 

[Rolf]

Holy cow that Peugeot must be an excellent handling car as it has only 199kw, considerably less than the other cars except Cayman PDK!!

 

[DeDe]

God, I got so many great German tests in the last few days... I'll post all of them as soon as possible

1. Audi R8 V10 Spyder vs Porsche 991 Turbo Cabriolet by AMuS.
   
2. Audi R8 V10 vs Porsche 991 Turbo by Sport Auto.
3. BMW M235i vs Mercedes CLA45 AMG by Sport Auto.
4. Audi S3 Sportback vs BMW M135i xDrive vs VW Golf R by Sport Auto.
5. Brabus SL 850 by Sport Auto (0-300 kph in 26,2 s ).
6. Audi S3 Limusine vs BMW M235i vs Mercedes CLA45 AMG vs VW Golf R by AutoBild Sportscars.
7. McLaren 12C Spider vs Porsche 991 Turbo S Cabriolet (0-100 kph in 2,87 s...) by AutoBild Sportscars.
8. Peugeot RCZ R vs Porsche Cayman PDK (Peugeot was faster around the Sachsenring!) by AutoBild Sportscars.
   
9. Porsche 997 GT3 RS 4.0 vs Porsche 991 GT3 around Sachsenring by AutoBild Sportscars.

 

[klier]

^^ damn, almost all of them very interesting!!!
Number 3 and number 9 stand out to me!!

 

[klier]

Holy cow that Peugeot must be an excellent handling car as it has only 199kw, considerably less than the other cars except Cayman PDK!!

Actually, I am not buying it after some contemplating. That car cannot be faster..

 

[mini_cooper4]

Actually, I am not buying it after some contemplating. That car cannot be faster..

No, mate... it very well could.
The Peugeot is really light, incredibly accurate and balanced.
It's the best FWD money can buy! I just drove the car yesterday... it feels faster than a Cayman... even more than the difference in lap time suggests! I was amazed!
Everyone should go and try this car!

PS: Fiesta ST is still the queen of hot hatches just because the Peugeot is not a hatch.

 

[klier]

I just might, thanks.

 

[mini_cooper4]

I just might, thanks.

You'd still choose a Cayman because it's brilliant and incredible fun... but when you compare prices you'll see what I mean and will be more than impressed