always V8

[LaArtist]

^This time its not what i think..those are facts for you..

And fyi even though the E36 was way better than the E39..it was NOT a problem free car.

PS
I just want to vent my frustrations for a second with BMW particularly the damn E39..
They MUST have been retarded when they placed the ABS sensors in the rear wheel wells in a position where they get so damn HOT that they MELT..i mean COME THE F ON? so they melt from time to time.. the left one is coupled with the damn cruise control, and the right one with the SPEEDO..so they both STOP working when they MELT..
I mean shoot me in the head please?
And if you just keep on driving like that..it gives error signals to the ABS unit which has a tendency to fry..and costs a damn fortune to fix..
Sometimes i wonder what the eff their staff gets paid for?

Just another extremely retarded thing.. not a biggie..but it irks the f__k out of me..
In the boot where the reserve tire sits there is a LONG ass metal stick that is supposed to go through the middle of the tire.
Now this damn stick is about 30-40cm.. and on this there is a TINY damn butterfly screw thingy.. so its takes you AGES to twist this effin butterfly up to the TOP of that 30-40cm stick..just to get the tire out..
WHYYYYY???

Damn i need to buy a benz..!

 

[Giannis]

Guys, this thread isn't about BMW's reliability, or more specifically about the E36 or E39. So, please stay on topic.

Reliability issues, though, are quite interesting, and I believe we have a subforum for it. So, if you want to continue this discussion, please start a new thread and I'll move these last few posts there.

 

[LaArtist]

Meh never mind..you can delete the posts.
Ile just get a stroke or some sh over this damn car.

Fed up!

 

[DblPen]

^So you are telling me that im lying about the countless problems ive had with my E39??

Here is a list.

1. ABS Control Unit
2. ABS Sensors
3. Whole Instrument Panel
4. Mass flow sensor
5.Inlet pipes
6. AC unit
7. Headlight projectors
8. Ignition coils
9. And a shit load of other things i cant think of now, plus the usual wear and tear crap

This is by FAR the most problematic car ive ever Owned, Im never buying a BMW again.
Even if i win the effin car on lottery..ile sell it to you

So please your dislike is only cause you got butt hurt that over the fact that someone critisized BMW..
As usual

Well you just happened to buy a very bad example of e39, thats on you. Actually e39 considered one of the best bmw's ever made, maybe even best 5 series ever made

 

[LaArtist]

^If it is one of the best BMWs ever made..then Lord jesus can not even help them.

I have several friends with E39 experience..and a forum full of these problems..they
are COMMON PROBLEMS on the E39..
Its not a damn lemon if you think so.

Google common E39 problems and you will see these.

So i think if you have a E39 and had none of the problems above..then consider yourself extremely lucky.

But then again i think you are not talking from experience, but rather from hearsay.

 

[mini_cooper4]

I'll just say one thing and leave.
Never buy 525TDS or 725TDS
If you are going for the benzino ones... then most BMWs are ok.
Reliable and cheap to maintain? - E46 325i
That's all with BMW... all the rest suck!... soooo bad!

 

[DblPen]

^If it is one of the best BMWs ever made..then Lord jesus can not even help them.

I have several friends with E39 experience..and a forum full of these problems..they
are COMMON PROBLEMS on the E39..
Its not a damn lemon if you think so.

Google common E39 problems and you will see these.

So i think if you have a E39 and had none of the problems above..then consider yourself extremely lucky.

But then again i think you are not talking from experience, but rather from hearsay.

i have 530d and only problems i had yet was xenon reflectors and cupholders (they are laughable tbh).
obv cars which are 10+ years old have some kind of problems, esp when it has many features and tech in it, dont act like any other car doesnt have them

oh i just saw mini coopers post and i realised you both had to be trolling

 

[LaArtist]

^man you are very lucky in that case.
Dont come around here and call it trolling..
EVERYONE knows that there are a shit load of common problems with the E39.

Stop being blind!

 

[mini_cooper4]

Only my last sentence can be considered as trolling. I stay behind my words for the rest of my post.
The 30d is a great engine. 2x X5s 30d, 7er 30d and X6 35d during the years and all were great cars with little to no problems considering the crazy millage we've done on all cars and the way they've been driven. BMW is an engine master but there are some examples that should never be considered IMO

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

I love V8's.

 

[Levi68]

I love V8's.

To you plan to test-drive the F80?

 

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

To you plan to test-drive the F80?

As an auto enthusiast, of course! Will I own one? Probably not. Once the V8 dies in this market, I'll consider it, but until then, No.

 

[Sunny]

As an auto enthusiast, of course! Will I own one? Probably not. Once the V8 dies in this market, I'll consider it, but until then, No.

Hang on to your gem till the end of your life or it's life which ever comes first.

 

[Levi68]

Well, it is not like V8 will disappear. On the contrary I think there'll be even more V8 engines, I don't think they'll ever disappear until we'll be using combustion engines. I thing I don't understand is why this "downsizing" is translated into reduction of cylinders rather the reduction of displacement. Would anybody be against a tubocharged 2.0l V6 or 3.2l V8? Me not. I'd love if BMW went back to turbocharged 2.0 I6s instead of the current 2.0 I4s.

 

[mini_cooper4]

Well, it is not like V8 will disappear. On the contrary I think there'll be even more V8 engines, I don't think they'll ever disappear until we'll be using combustion engines. I thing I don't understand is why this "downsizing" is translated into reduction of cylinders rather the reduction of displacement. Would anybody be against a tubocharged 2.0l V6 or 3.2l V8? Me not. I'd love if BMW went back to turbocharged 2.0 I6s instead of the current 2.0 I4s.

2.0l V6 turbos won't be as reliable as a 3.0l V6 even if the 3.0l is also a turbo. History proves that bigger displacement NA engines last much longer. Cutting cylinders also means that you will end up with a smaller displacement. Smaller displacement high revving engines are great but won't last much as they are already boosted to their limits.

 

[Levi68]

2.0l V6 turbos won't be as reliable as a 3.0l V6 even if the 3.0l is also a turbo. History proves that bigger displacement NA engines last much longer. Cutting cylinders also means that you will end up with a smaller displacement. Smaller displacement high revving engines are great but won't last much as they are already boosted to their limits.

I know that, but who cares about long lasting engines? If it can do 200.000 km that is enough. Anyway, today car manufactures want you to buy their products regularly, just as you regularly get the latest phone. How would they then meet their goal of yearly selling 2 Mio cars worldwide?

 

[Sunny]

I don't think it is a matter of reliability, but more about efficiency and likely even more about cost. For a given displacement, everything else being equal, the more the number of cylinders, the more the moving parts, higher the frictional losses. And of course more parts also equates to higher cost. Of course, on the other side, that raises the question why not just use 1 or 2 cylinder engine? Cause combustion efficiency goes down as the capacity of a cylinder goes up. The vast majority of the engines used today is around 500cc per cylinder.

 

[Giannis]

I know that, but who cares about long lasting engines? If it can do 200.000 km that is enough. Anyway, today car manufactures want you to buy their products regularly, just as you regularly get the latest phone. How would they then meet their goal of yearly selling 2 Mio cars worldwide?

Ι disagree. I disagree strongly.

So, what if a carmaker wants you to switch cars like shirts? Why do you have to fall for marketing or whatever drives you to "need" a new car so often? Why should you be kept from keeping a car that is satisfying you for as long as you want, be it a lifetime?

Who cares about long lasting engines? First of all, my wallet. Then my brain. And last, my self esteem. I would feel like an utter idiot if I spent a considerable sum of money for a car that is not meant to be reliable. We are not talking about track toys, we are talking about cars that can be used everyday.

 

[Levi68]

Of course the frictional losses are higher, but even that might not be the true reason. As you say, it should mostly be costs. That said, McLaren and Maserati are still going the way I rather prefere with the 3.8l V8.

 

[Levi68]

Ι disagree. I disagree strongly.

So, what if a carmaker wants you to switch cars like shirts? Why do you have to fall for marketing or whatever drives you to "need" a new car so often? Why should you be kept from keeping a car that is satisfying you for as long as you want, be it a lifetime?

Who cares about long lasting engines? First of all, my wallet. Then my brain. And last, my self esteem. I would feel like an utter idiot if I spent a considerable sum of money for a car that is not meant to be reliable. We are not talking about track toys, we are talking about cars that can be used everyday.

So do care as much as you, but manufacturers not. Sure they won't tell you "we want you to change cars like you change shoes" but that is what they and many people who can afford, and are not necessarily wealthy do. Why didn't the F80 get full-LED? The technology is there, the costs are not a reason. That is the product-life-cycle. It did not exist before, it is new that cars now get a facelift after 3,5 years. That is manipulating customers into buyng the latest version.