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[Esp5]

I don't see any growth if Trump holds on to his Greenland fantasy, more like the complete opposite.

Yes, Trump is one of the most complex variables; he's causing the industry a lot of trouble with his unpredictable back and forth.

Even so, Europe would seem to me to be the most "stable" of the major markets

 

[klier]

Of essence will be an intelligent rejuvination of armed forces capacities. Just my take, but...this will encompass far more than tanks, armoured vehicles, cannons and a draft. Scalpels wielded with laser-focused precision is more effective than a sledgehammer. Smaller, more compact, yet of the highest possible quality, beats mass.

Nope we need both. We need sledgehammers. Planes, aircraft carriers, thousands and thousands of tanks, etc. Basically the same as the U.S has, but better, more and more modern than their mostly Cold War crap.

And to top that off, nukes in many countries. Luckily we have France to supply them.

 

[Design FIRST]

Nope we need both. We need sledgehammers. Planes, aircraft carriers, thousands and thousands of tanks, etc. Basically the same as the U.S has, but better, more and more modern than their mostly Cold War crap.

And to top that off, nukes in many countries. Luckily we have France to supply them.

On a little sidenote...

Did you know that your country, the Netherlands, has one of the most technologically advanced armed forces, in relation to the country's population, in the world ? Here in Germany, our own armed forces can learn a hell of alot from the Netherlands. And especially from Israel and South Korea. At least we have some really top-notch elite units.

I'm also inclined to agree with you regarding the multiple nation nuclear deterrent. Especially now, when (north/south)western, central and (north/south)eastern Europe are now confronted with the most belligerent neighbor and adversary directly on the periphery. And now, in these batshit crazy times, our once staunched ally from across the Atlantic is beginning to look mighty, mighty dodgy.

 

[Esp5]

You know something's wrong with the world when a thread about German cars and Audi RS sales turns into "nuclear deterrence."

 

[Design FIRST]

You know something's wrong with the world when a thread about German cars and Audi RS sales turns into "nuclear deterrence."

No worries. I'm out ! I suspect that my discussion partner will agree as well.

 

[klier]

On a little sidenote...

Did you know that your country, the Netherlands, has one of the most technologically advanced armed forces, in relation to the country's population, in the world ? Here in Germany, our own armed forces can learn a hell of alot from the Netherlands.

I don't know where you read that, but.......naaahhh

They literally have to yell "POW POW" when shooting a gun during combat training because they don't have any ammo. Our army is a certified joke.

 

[klier]

 

[leylandi]

In 2025, new EU car registrations increased by 1.8% compared to the same period last year. However, overall volumes remain well below pre-pandemic levels.
The battery-electric car market share reached 17.4%, in line with projections for the year, yet still a level that leaves room for growth to stay on track with the transition. Hybrid-electric vehicles lead as the most popular power type choice among buyers, with plug-in hybrids consolidating their position in the market.

Electric cars
In 2025, 1,880,370 new battery-electric cars were registered, capturing 17.4% of the EU market share. The four largest markets in the EU, which together account for 62% of battery-electric car registrations, saw growth: Germany (+43.2%), the Netherlands (+18.1%), Belgium (+12.6%), and France (+12.5%).

January to December 2025 figures also showed new EU hybrid-electric car registrations rising to 3,733,325 units, driven by growth in the four biggest markets: Spain (+23.1%), France (+21.6%), Germany (+8%), and Italy (+7.9%). Hybrid-electric models account for 34.5% of the total EU market.

Registrations of plug-in-hybrid electric cars continue to grow, reaching 1,015,887 units during the same period. This was driven by increases in volume for key markets such as Spain (+111.7%), Italy (+86.6%), and Germany (+62.3%). Therefore, plug-in-hybrid electric cars now represent 9.4% of EU car registrations, up from 7.2% last year.

The year-over-year (YOY) variation for December 2025 showed a surge of 51% for battery-electric and 36.7% for plug-in-hybrid electric cars, while hybrid-electric recorded a 5.8% increase.

Petrol and diesel cars
By the end of 2025, petrol car registrations dropped by 18.7%, with all major markets experiencing decreases. France experienced the steepest drop, with registrations plummeting by 32%, followed by Germany (-21.6%), Italy (-18.2%), and Spain (-16%).

With 2,880,298 new cars registered in 2025, the market share for petrol fell to 26.6% from 33.3% a year earlier. The diesel car market continued to decline, with registrations down by 24.2%, resulting in an 8.9% share in 2025. Moreover, the December 2025 YOY variation showed a 19.2% decline for petrol and 22.4% for diesel.

New car registrations: +1.8% in 2025; battery-electric 17.4% market share

In 2025, new EU car registrations increased by 1.8% compared to the same period last year. However, overall volumes remain well below pre-pandemic levels.

www.acea.auto

 

[leylandi]

 

[Esp5]

Do they no longer post European sales figures broken down by model like they did until a few months ago? I think they were from JATO, where can I see them?

 

[leylandi]

Jato hasn't posted anything for months.

 

[leylandi]

Lexus announced today its 2025 global sales results as described below.

The global sales for the period from January to December 2025 reached a record high of 882,231 units (104% of the previous year). By region, sales in North America were led by core models such as the RX, NX, and TX, achieving a record-high 408,070 units (108% of the previous year). In addition, strong support from customers across regions, including Japan, contributed to overall growth in global sales.

Toyota Group 2025 Sales Total 11,322,575
Toyota 9,654,576
Lexus 882,231
Daihatsu 675,285
Hino 110,483

Lexus Announces Global Sales Results for 2025 | Lexus | Global Newsroom | Toyota Motor Corporation Official Global Website

Lexus announced today its 2025 global sales results as described below.

global.toyota

 

[Esp5]

That subtly places Lexus as the fourth best-selling luxury brand in the world, ahead of Volvo. I think they've been quietly making slow but steady progress.

 

[leylandi]

JATO has released its October sales figures for Europe. Isn't that a bit early?

BEVs and plug-in hybrids drive moderate growth in Europe’s new car market in October

JATO data shows Europe’s car market grew in Oct 2025, driven by rising BEV and plug‑in hybrid demand, with Germany, Spain and BYD boosting growth.

www.jato.com

 

[Esp5]

They hadn't published anything since October; what's the point of them publishing monthly figures three months late and already in a new year? Quite unprofessional.

 

[klier]

Going really great!

 

[Esp5]

That makes you wonder how the M3 EV will fare, however excellent it may be, and/or any performance EV. Will it be a sedan thing...? Will SUVs do better...? It's hard to say.