Airbus back on track?

[far2000]

US Airways orders A350XWB plus other Airbus plane types
June 18, 2007: 07:49 AM EST


PARIS, Jun. 18, 2007 (AFX International Focus) -- EADS unit Airbus said US Airways (NYSE:LCC) has ordered 92 aircraft worth just over 8 bln usd including its mid-sized A350XWB.

Airbus said US Airways is ordering 22 A350-800s, 10 A330-200s and 60 A320-family jets.

Engine maker Rolls-Royce said US Airways had chosen the Trent XWB to power the A350s in an order worth about 1.8 bln usd. The aircraft are due for delivery from 2014.

--damn thats a big order...wonder if this is big enough 4 airbus...surprising boeing lost a deal from there home country .......

 

[LaArtist]

im so glad that they got this..and on top of that it was from an american airliner..lol

 

[far2000]

im so glad that they got this..and on top of that it was from an american airliner..lol

Yeah, im quite surprised, wonder what happened 2 Boeing?

 

[Beemer B773ER]

Not really suprising. US Airways had already ordered the pre-XWB A350, so it maked total sense to renegotiate their contract with Airbus and order the new version.

Seems like US Airways will be the only American A350XWB customer.

Interesting though that they went with A350X-800 only and not the -900 as well.

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You think that's a big order? .... Qatar Airways has already placed an order for 80 A350XWBs..!! ..and Emirates has long been talking about a 100 plane order for either the A350XWB or 787 (won't be a split order).

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As for the question about whether Airbus is back on track... hmmm... I'd have to go with the answer 'not yet'. They still have a long way to go to get their paper aeroplane A350X properly defined and designed. That won't happen till October NEXT year.

 

[Beemer B773ER]

Yeah, im quite surprised, wonder what happened 2 Boeing?

Nothing happened to Boeing... Airbus won the order because they offered a greater discount on the actual plane price. So when you read the numbers in those article, it's not actually the correct dollar figures. US Airways is rumoured to have got between 30-40% discount on the total list price...so yep, Airbus just decided to offer more discounts to win over US Airways.

With Boeing having already logged over 600 orders, there's simply no need to bend-over backwards in terms of discounts to win orders. The 787 sells itself, and its record-breaking order figure is going to provide a healthy profit margin for Boeing. Also, Boeing is yet to unveil their 787-10, so that may provide an additional injection in sales.

 

[NarutoRamen]

So what's better in your guys opinion, 787 or A350? Why?

 

[Michael]

I think the 787 is a revolutionary aircraft that is introducing cost effectiveness, in my opinion, for the first time in the airline industry. The composite material that the aircarft is made of is essential for the fuel savings that it will provide. In addition, the windows are larger, the navigation system is advanced, and the range the aircraft has is unprecedented. It is clear that Airbus jumped on the 'cost-effective' aircraft right after it saw the orders pour in for the Boeing. I think Airbus nailed it with the A380, but Boeing nailed it with the 787.

Oh, and just because Airbus got an order from US Airways, doesn't mean much. The 787 seems to be getting more and more attention and now there are talks of more US carriers ordering the aircraft. Also, Boeing has been working on a 777 replacement.

 

[EnI]

Airbus' Paris sales soar over Boeing

June 19, 2007

LE BOURGET, France (AP) -- Airbus stole the spotlight from U.S. rival Boeing Co. on the opening day of the world's largest air show yesterday, announcing deals worth about $43 billion.
Boeing, in contrast, tallied up orders worth $4.4 billion. Some, but not all, of the Airbus orders were new -- Qatar Airways confirmed a purchase of 80 of Airbus' problem-plagued A350 jets, worth more than $18 billion.
However, despite its early lead in the traditional trans-Atlantic rivalry at the weeklong Paris Air Show in Le Bourget, Airbus still has a long way to go to match Boeing's superselling Dreamliner 787.
Going into the fair, Chicago-based Boeing had already secured 584 orders for the Dreamliner, compared with Airbus' total of 13 firm orders and 142 non-final commitments for its A350.
The Toulouse-based plane maker added 114 new firm orders for the A350 yesterday, including the 80 from Qatar and 12 from Kuwait's Aviation Lease & Finance Co. US Airways also announced plans to add two to its previous order of 20. Including firm orders and future commitments, Airbus said it received orders for a total of 339 aircraft valued at $43.3 billion based on average list prices.
The success of the A350 is by no means assured. Airbus' decision to redesign the jet after customer complaints -- resulting in the extra-wide-body, or XWB, model -- has pushed back its delivery date until 2013.

 

[Mr. M]

The 787 is really capitalising on the A380 delays. Shame on the wiring and technical issues... It really is a great plane that deserved to fly a long time ago.

 

[bmer]

So how do you guys see the situation would be if Airbus didn't have those problems with the A380 and the A350 would have been like the XWB from the start and both planes would have been launched on original schedule?

 

[far2000]

So how do you guys see the situation would be if Airbus didn't have those problems with the A380 and the A350 would have been like the XWB from the start and both planes would have been launched on original schedule?

it would be 1 way traffic for airbus..i wont be surprised if Boeing were involved in airbus s delay...

 

[far2000]

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• Airbus, Boeing begin dogfight

Le Bourget - Airbus cast aside worries about the future of two of its new aircraft and broke records at the 47th Paris Air Show with a haul of 728 orders, allowing it to nose past its arch-rival the US planemaker Boeing.
The 2007 show drew about 300 000 vistors and was dubbed a vintage year at a time when the air travel industry is booming, according to its organisers, the Grouping of French Aeronautical and Space Industries (GIFAS).
"The amount of contracts concluded should exceed $100bn (€74bn), the industrial interests are all extremely satisfied, " said Louis Le Portz, the show's general commissioner, on Sunday, the last day of the show.
Airbus racked up 425 firm orders and 303 options for a list price of $98bn.
"It's the best show ever recorded by a plane-maker," said Airbus commercial director John Leahy.
Airbus tallies 626 firm orders against 510 for Boeing, which was in the lead before the show, and expects to end 2007 with at least 900 orders.
The long-haul A350, which has had to be substantially revamped and challenges Boeing's runaway success, the 787 Dreamliner, has collected 154 firm orders against only 13 at the start of the month.
Boeing, by contrast, only announced one order at the show, though it came from the very influential leasing group ILFC and was for 50 787s, bringing the total a year before the plane takes to the skies to 634.
But there were clouds in Airbus's sky. The delays to the superjumbo A380 and the weakness of the dollar have forced the Power 8 restructuring plan on the company as it bids to remain competitive.
'EADS must become a normal business'
Both in France and in Germany trade unions are counting on the commercial successes at Le Bourget to soften the impact of the plan, which calls for 10 000 jobs to be lost at six sites in Europe.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Saturday at the show that his summit with German Chancellor Angela Merkel on July 16 would be held at the Airbus plant at Toulouse in southwestern France.
The shareholders in the EADS parent company DaimlerChrysler of Germany and France's Lagardere have been invited.
"EADS must become a normal business," he said as tensions within the company between its French and German partners surfaced over the possible sale of a 46.3% stake in France's Dassault Aviation.
In the field of military aircraft France and Germany signed a declaration of interest with a view to launching a joint military heavy transport helicopter project that could see the aircraft entering service some time around 2020.
France, Germany and Spain signed a technical agreement of a project to manufacture an advanced intelligence unmanned drone. Dassault Aviation, once an EADS ally, joined forces with Italy's Aliena Aeronautica and Sweden's Saab AB in signing a letter of cooperation in the same area. Arianespace ordered from EADS Astrium 35 top of the range Ariane 5 ECA rockets.