Ahead of its time : BMW Xcoupe... The next canvas.


SCOTT27

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Want to know the next big thing in the Premium market?
Three factors - All Wheel Drive , 3dr Coupe body and a Commanding driving position.
BMW have now initiated a brief for a potential sportier 3dr in the mold of the original Xcoupe Concept car.
Porsche are moving quickly on their Cajun , Range Rover have the evoque and now BMW are looking into the potential of a model which was first shown ten years ago...

Was it ahead of it's time?

The BMW XCoupe Concept.
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back in 2001 it was the uncharted territory , some received the concept as innovative , creative and employing fresh-thinking. Others used it as ammo as hate against BMW's then design boss Chris Bangle.

Even though the Anders Warming designed body led to the BMW E85 Z4 a car that still looks good today even with it's origami surfaces and original appearance.

Xcoupe was created as a "Sport Activity Coupe" The project initially begun before the current X6 was conceived. As the original prototype looked more like a high-riding 6er Coupe , Before the morphing into the X6 as we know it.
Xcoupe used the X5's platform and drivetrain but on a 3dr body , unfortunately testing clinics made BMW revert the car to more standard luxury fare therefore making the car more conventional and with four doors to reflect the potential Xcoupe customer. The logical naming was deived from the fact that it is X5 based that it is the next step-up from the X5 therefore it became the X6.

BMW was the first with the idea for a "Premium" Sport Activity Coupe but the changes took the car into a new direction as the E71 shows. But now especially with several manufacturers now testing the water such as the Range Rover evoque and the Porsche Cajun fast approach as interpretations of 3dr Sport Activity Coupe's. BMW are thinking that the original Premium concept can be resurrected as it always intended to be. With a Commanding driving position , all-wheel-drive and a sportier 3dr Coupe profile.

As the original Concept was borne from the X5 drivetrain , BMW are looking at basing the initial study on the more accessible compact and entry modular platform rather than a larger platform for a Premium Coupe.
But to illustrate it's potential through design and dynamism, BMW are thinking about equipping it with the technology to make it a real contender on the road and against the Cajun in particular. So larger features such as Dynamic Performance Control, and a Turbo inline six- could be configured for the car.


The brief for the Interior packaging and design is said to favour 2+2 seating although the rear seats will be individually placed.
The rear trunk has to be a common Coupe-esque hatch although there is a suggestion for a single rear-hinged door on one side to showcase some extra practicality.

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"X" Meets "Z" The ultimate "Hybrid" Sports Car.

Although the design work has commenced , BMW are looking for two specific factors in the competition, A 3dr Coupe -outline and stand-alone design representation.
The design brief sticks to a specific set of measurements which means it is in a specific segment. They want it to mix ideas with the Z series and the X series - a Hybrid. it is known internally as "K" or Half "X" .

Although what to call the car? If they get to the final stage - there is four contenders - X2 therefore completing the X synergy, The K2 initiating a new segment using the Half "X" , "Y" as between "X" and "Z" or simply just Xcoupe.

False Starts and New Beginnings. The BMW X4.
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Now if you went into the design studio in Munich at BMW's FIZ complex , and you pulled the cover off of the clay model of the X4 this is what you would be looking at.
Although it is a render, the artist has tapped into how BMW can develop the X4 from the X3 and the simularities are uncanny. Right down to the features , height and the shape of the roof.

But yes, BMW do want an X4 as they see the car as very important for the Premium entry segment on two important factors both signifying growth.

The first being that BMW see the X4 as a choice for customers who want an X6 but find it too big and too expensive. And second there is a large market for previously owned X6 models which would mean X4 could be more accessible for these customers. X4 would inherit both BMW's Premium entry Petrol and diesel four and six cylinders making the car accessible for a lot more customers who crave the looks of a sport activity Coupe like the X6.


But what happened with the original based on the F25, X3 strategy?
It's problems came in packaging and because X4 was the little brother to the X6 it would be engineered to be very different dynamically and use some of the X6's tricks and some new ideas that were being developed for the X4 which will be seen with the M version of the X3.

Unfortunately some of these features impacted on the packaging of the car , compromising rear passenger room .The rear suspension for example and the overall track of the car was much wider , X4 also had to overcome changes so that the exhaust system would be able to extend to both sides of the undercarriage.
The X4 would have received an updated dynamic performance control as it's dynamic party trick ,but there was also hybrid drivetrains to consider and in the end the compromise was on passenger space at the rear.

The silver lining is that the X5 and X6 replacements come from a new modular matrix aimed at impacting a significant weight difference on the new X5 and X6.
This new platform matrix again is modular and adapatable which means it can be used for an X5 and then with the modular pieces that can either be added or subtracted be reduced to fit under an X3.
One common matrix that is modular will also be cost-effective for production , especially in a
single plant (Spartanburg) where the X5,X6,X3 and X4 would be manufactured for the global market.


Despite some factions of the media. The X4 was never coming to Frankfurt this September, or arriving next year. For the X4 it was always around 2014.
What will happen now is that engineers are working on a transfer programme with the next generation matrix and the designers will start to think of a new facia for the car since the arrival of the X4 would mean the approach of mid-life for the F25 X3.

Therefore the new X4 should lead the design charge to the next generation X3. So in essence it will showcase an individual look until the arrival of the next generation X3.
The delay is not going to be that long in fact it is almost on schedule with anticipated launch around 2014 and remains in BMW's strategy as one of the "20" - New models before 2015.



If you go back to before the arrival of the E53 X5 and then to the arrival of the E53 X5 you see a significant increase in sales and BMW's profits. With the arrival of the E83 X3 , E70 X5, E71 X6 ,E84 X1 and the F25 X3 you see the bars risng further . The "X" family although universally hated by some, has been very profitable for BMW and are very much huge contributors to it's success. Each X model globally showcases and continues it's sales popularity with BMW X models leading their respective segments as the best sellers and best models in their class.

Expect Xcoupe (if approved) and the X4 to further their appeal and increase BMW's sales and profitability.

Acknowledgment to TheophilusChin.
 
XCoupe! O dear another senseless adventure it is.
The front of the model X4 looks dull and gives the vehicle a look of sheepishness.
 
XCoupe! O dear another senseless adventure it is.
The front of the model X4 looks dull and gives the vehicle a look of sheepishness.

have you seen the car in person ?
its definitely a great idea, the presence this car has in real life is really stunning (i have said that before)
 
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back in 2001 it was the uncharted territory , some received the concept as innovative , creative and employing fresh-thinking. Others used it as ammo as hate against BMW's then design boss Chris Bangle.


inspired by Jim Roger's GLK. ;)

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http://www.4x4abc.com/JimRogers/

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No I am yet to see it, but to be honest it is mindless IMO. My guess is, it will appeal to a fractional minority which thankfully excludes me.
 
More nonsensical attempts from BMW. Let's see if this "niche car" will actually look good.
 
Seriously, where is this BMW's obsession with raised ride height coming from? Did all the autobahns suddenly crumble? BMW board members all suddenly became surfer dudes? Bunch of soccer moms invaded Munich?
 
All of the above :)

Though the Autobahn still is positively awesome. Flew over it a couple of days ago actually at speeds well over 200 :)
 
More nonsensical attempts from BMW. Let's see if this "niche car" will actually look good.

Actually if the car comes to production and becomes successful. This nosensical attempt will be interpreted by both Audi and Mercedes-Benz, just like that other "niche" success the BMW X6.
 
^^^^^^^
:eusa_clap :t-cheers:

Jip! The renderings and speculations of an X6 rival from both Audi and M-B is already out there.;)
 
Actually if the car comes to production and becomes successful. This nosensical attempt will be interpreted by both Audi and Mercedes-Benz, just like that other "niche" success the BMW X6.

OR THE CLS! Hello 6er Gran Coupe, two generations late and still no show yet !

Or folding hardtop Z4. Welcome back to 1996 Merc SLK.

Point : NO NEED TO BRAG.
 
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Want to know the next big thing in the Premium market?
Three factors - All Wheel Drive , 3dr Coupe body and a Commanding driving position.
BMW have now initiated a brief for a potential sportier 3dr in the mold of the original Xcoupe Concept car.
Porsche are moving quickly on their Cajun , Range Rover have the evoque and now BMW are looking into the potential of a model which was first shown ten years ago...

Was it ahead of it's time?

The BMW XCoupe Concept.
d08476794b9f6a93176f302993453b8b.webp



back in 2001 it was the uncharted territory , some received the concept as innovative , creative and employing fresh-thinking. Others used it as ammo as hate against BMW's then design boss Chris Bangle.

Even though the Anders Warming designed body led to the BMW E85 Z4 a car that still looks good today even with it's origami surfaces and original appearance.

Xcoupe was created as a "Sport Activity Coupe" The project initially begun before the current X6 was conceived. As the original prototype looked more like a high-riding 6er Coupe , Before the morphing into the X6 as we know it.
Xcoupe used the X5's platform and drivetrain but on a 3dr body , unfortunately testing clinics made BMW revert the car to more standard luxury fare therefore making the car more conventional and with four doors to reflect the potential Xcoupe customer. The logical naming was deived from the fact that it is X5 based that it is the next step-up from the X5 therefore it became the X6.

BMW was the first with the idea for a "Premium" Sport Activity Coupe but the changes took the car into a new direction as the E71 shows. But now especially with several manufacturers now testing the water such as the Range Rover evoque and the Porsche Cajun fast approach as interpretations of 3dr Sport Activity Coupe's. BMW are thinking that the original Premium concept can be resurrected as it always intended to be. With a Commanding driving position , all-wheel-drive and a sportier 3dr Coupe profile.

As the original Concept was borne from the X5 drivetrain , BMW are looking at basing the initial study on the more accessible compact and entry modular platform rather than a larger platform for a Premium Coupe.
But to illustrate it's potential through design and dynamism, BMW are thinking about equipping it with the technology to make it a real contender on the road and against the Cajun in particular. So larger features such as Dynamic Performance Control, and a Turbo inline six- could be configured for the car.


The brief for the Interior packaging and design is said to favour 2+2 seating although the rear seats will be individually placed.
The rear trunk has to be a common Coupe-esque hatch although there is a suggestion for a single rear-hinged door on one side to showcase some extra practicality.

8c3444398728b5e95fdfeebeeefb24c2.webp


"X" Meets "Z" The ultimate "Hybrid" Sports Car.

Although the design work has commenced , BMW are looking for two specific factors in the competition, A 3dr Coupe -outline and stand-alone design representation.
The design brief sticks to a specific set of measurements which means it is in a specific segment. They want it to mix ideas with the Z series and the X series - a Hybrid. it is known internally as "K" or Half "X" .

Although what to call the car? If they get to the final stage - there is four contenders - X2 therefore completing the X synergy, The K2 initiating a new segment using the Half "X" , "Y" as between "X" and "Z" or simply just Xcoupe.

False Starts and New Beginnings. The BMW X4.
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Now if you went into the design studio in Munich at BMW's FIZ complex , and you pulled the cover off of the clay model of the X4 this is what you would be looking at.
Although it is a render, the artist has tapped into how BMW can develop the X4 from the X3 and the simularities are uncanny. Right down to the features , height and the shape of the roof.

But yes, BMW do want an X4 as they see the car as very important for the Premium entry segment on two important factors both signifying growth.

The first being that BMW see the X4 as a choice for customers who want an X6 but find it too big and too expensive. And second there is a large market for previously owned X6 models which would mean X4 could be more accessible for these customers. X4 would inherit both BMW's Premium entry Petrol and diesel four and six cylinders making the car accessible for a lot more customers who crave the looks of a sport activity Coupe like the X6.


But what happened with the original based on the F25, X3 strategy?
It's problems came in packaging and because X4 was the little brother to the X6 it would be engineered to be very different dynamically and use some of the X6's tricks and some new ideas that were being developed for the X4 which will be seen with the M version of the X3.

Unfortunately some of these features impacted on the packaging of the car , compromising rear passenger room .The rear suspension for example and the overall track of the car was much wider , X4 also had to overcome changes so that the exhaust system would be able to extend to both sides of the undercarriage.
The X4 would have received an updated dynamic performance control as it's dynamic party trick ,but there was also hybrid drivetrains to consider and in the end the compromise was on passenger space at the rear.

The silver lining is that the X5 and X6 replacements come from a new modular matrix aimed at impacting a significant weight difference on the new X5 and X6.
This new platform matrix again is modular and adapatable which means it can be used for an X5 and then with the modular pieces that can either be added or subtracted be reduced to fit under an X3.
One common matrix that is modular will also be cost-effective for production , especially in a
single plant (Spartanburg) where the X5,X6,X3 and X4 would be manufactured for the global market.


Despite some factions of the media. The X4 was never coming to Frankfurt this September, or arriving next year. For the X4 it was always around 2014.
What will happen now is that engineers are working on a transfer programme with the next generation matrix and the designers will start to think of a new facia for the car since the arrival of the X4 would mean the approach of mid-life for the F25 X3.

Therefore the new X4 should lead the design charge to the next generation X3. So in essence it will showcase an individual look until the arrival of the next generation X3.
The delay is not going to be that long in fact it is almost on schedule with anticipated launch around 2014 and remains in BMW's strategy as one of the "20" - New models before 2015.



If you go back to before the arrival of the E53 X5 and then to the arrival of the E53 X5 you see a significant increase in sales and BMW's profits. With the arrival of the E83 X3 , E70 X5, E71 X6 ,E84 X1 and the F25 X3 you see the bars risng further . The "X" family although universally hated by some, has been very profitable for BMW and are very much huge contributors to it's success. Each X model globally showcases and continues it's sales popularity with BMW X models leading their respective segments as the best sellers and best models in their class.

Expect Xcoupe (if approved) and the X4 to further their appeal and increase BMW's sales and profitability.

Acknowledgment to TheophilusChin.
Where might the X Coupe be built....Plant Spartanburg on the new forthcoming modular X3,X4,X5 and X6 flex platform ?? BTW.....I like the concept.....don't band me from the forum, but the Porsche Cajun is on my radar for my weekend car. Gotta have High Performance, AWD,4 usable seats,and some room for my stuff. But not traditional SUV size. We'll see how all these 3 door SAV coupes look once they get to the metal.Thanks. PalBay PS...there are several cars that already meet my criteria for a weekend car..Audi S5 comes to mind as well as Nissan GT-R. Both high on the list. :)
 
Seriously, where is this BMW's obsession with raised ride height coming from? Did all the autobahns suddenly crumble? BMW board members all suddenly became surfer dudes? Bunch of soccer moms invaded Munich?

I think the paper trail leads back to the folks at Accounting. We've all heard the saying: 'sex sells'...seems like for BMW X sells. ..and they have the numbers to prove that. :D
 
Actually if the car comes to production and becomes successful. This nosensical attempt will be interpreted by both Audi and Mercedes-Benz, just like that other "niche" success the BMW X6.

That will be tragic, and the thought of it is nauseating.
 
That will be tragic, and the thought of it is nauseating.

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Here is a breakdown of sales in 2010. Now look and you see why Audi and Mercedes-Benz want an X6 Competitor? Yes the X6 outsold the 3er Coupe and so on. However X3 was in the transition period so some of those sales are still E83. Also for the BMW 6er Coupe and Cabrio being E63 and E64 models with the F12 just coming on stream at the end of 2010. Now imagine what 2011 will look like now that X3 is here aswell as a new 1er , 6er Coupe , Cabrio and M5.
Look at the GT for a low volume model this is a significant result - BMW projected around 20,000 units per year. That car currently is just under 30,000 units.

3dr activity Coupe is expected to be the next big thing. The Porsche Cajun is a 3dr and will provide the litmus test because that is more coupe than 3dr SUV, If the Cajun takes off as expected then everyone will come out to play.

If success beckons then It is inevitable. That is the auto industry.

Acknowledgement to Matski@Bimmerpost.
 
I must say that the new vision is much better than the old one with the last gen X3 front on the last gen Z4 raised body.
 

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