B-Class (W246) 2012 Mercedes-Benz B-Class (Spy pics & info)


The W246 is the second generation Mercedes-Benz B-Class. It is the successor to the B-Class W245 and predecessor to the B-Class W247. Production: November 2011 – December 2018. Model years: 2012–2018.
I dont like the part where the roof goes up from the windscreen and then has a dramatic drop.What the hell are MB trying to do with this car it seems like they going a step backwards ffs MB please wake up and dont mess the car up as it is its not one off my favoured car but i think the current B although not great is atleast decent this thing is starting to look UGLY:t-banghea:t-banghea
 
I agree!

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It has to do with aerodynamics. The best shape n terms of aerodynamics for a van/hatch is to have the higher point of the car at the middle of it, and then a slightly slopping roof... See Prius.

But yes, it looks kinda bad...
 
I hate the A and B since day one. These cars are not worth the star. Current ones are noisy, uncomfortable, unrefined, and with a weird driving position...

I'd rather see them ditched, but that won't happen since they decrease the fleet consumption of the Mercedes line-up...

However, that new one looks real bad!!
 
I dont like the part where the roof goes up from the windscreen and then has a dramatic drop.What the hell are MB trying to do with this car it seems like they going a step backwards ffs MB please wake up and dont mess the car up as it is its not one off my favoured car but i think the current B although not great is atleast decent this thing is starting to look UGLY:t-banghea:t-banghea

I don´t know if I have undestood you good, but if you mean the glasshouse it continues under the camo in a curvy way, take a look again.
 
Looks like its going to be mighty ugly. That and FWD? NO. I want a small sedan like the 190E and a coupe/cabrio....but FWD? That just shouldn't be for a Mercedes.

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My thing is why does MB alway build their "little" cars to look like Mini buses?

It makes no sense that BMW is capable of building the 1 series that actually looks like a car and Benz can't. They really need to jump out that bubble bus stage. Thankfully we don't get the A or B-class over here so they both are irrelevant to us right now. Unfortunately so reports claim that we might get one or both soon, but they really need to be better designed if they plan on bringing them over here.

No reason for the S-class to look as good as it does and a small Benz look so horrible. Just give us a Baby C-class and we will be happy.
 
The A and B plaform is supposed to spawn a whole range of vehicles, sedan, coupe, convertible, wagon, hatch etc. so I don't care how ugly this one is. Theres bound to be sexy looking variant amongst them that will appeal to the A3/1 Series crowd.

Ok, so I really don't want to be qouting myself here, but MY GOD are you guys missing the point. So what if this ones a mini me van. MB have sold hundreds of thousands of these. BUT the next A-clas and B-class are going to come in all sorts of flavours, sedan, coupe, hatchback, roadster etc. This little van isn't the be all and end all of the range. :usa7uh:
 
We can hate the A and B-Class to death but the fact is that women love them. There are people there who can afford a VW Golf Plus but have a bit extra money to spend and don't mind forking over another few thousands for something with a star on the hood. The car is not much worse than the 1-Series that is shamed by the interior of the Golf.
 
Seriously i thought they'd do something different after the current B class, i think it looks disasterous, the rear is... something a random kid can draw on a piece of paper but from the look of things the next one won't be any better. I actually like the A better than the B now. Anyhow I doubt MB will make any direct 1series/A3 competitor in those kinda shape, when they can't match the dynamics, they try to go the ergonomics route, and so it looks crap.
 
Seriously i thought they'd do something different after the current B class, i think it looks disasterous, the rear is... something a random kid can draw on a piece of paper but from the look of things the next one won't be any better. I actually like the A better than the B now. Anyhow I doubt MB will make any direct 1series/A3 competitor in those kinda shape, when they can't match the dynamics, they try to go the ergonomics route, and so it looks crap.

MB will have a direct competitor for the A3 and 1 -series. Sure it won't handle like a go kart, but then again it won't ride like one either. ;)
 
As far as the shape. I have no problem. It looks fine for a wedge shaped hatchback. In fact, I like it. I just didn't expect MB to go this road again.

The reason the A3 and 1 sell in the US is they are proper sub compact cars. Not crossover styled. In the US you have some very good cross over hatchback vehicles. Mazda 5, Toyota Matrix, and many more. All of which will be less money, i would think, and less to maintain.

so, I don't see MB being able to penetrate the US market with this B either.

I don't blame them for building something like this for Europe.
 
The high-roof shape is the secret to the interior space of the B-Class and its good versatility. It's the reason you can comfortably sit four to five adults in these cars and still enjoy a reasonable amount of leg and head space.


Contrary to what Raoul said, I don't find the current A- and B-Classes to be unrefined. The 4-cylinder engines powering them, especially the gasoline motors, are quite refined and smooth. The comfort qualities of the A-Class aren't great but the B-Class is pretty good in this regard though. In turn the A-Class drives much sportier than the B-Class, which honestly feels like a 1970s American landyacht with its excessive body roll.

FWD also isn't an issue except for the gimmicky and overpowered A200 Turbo / B200 Turbo models which torque steer like crazy. I don't think we need to talk about performance here because these cars aren't performance oriented at all. It has to be said that the A/B200 and A/B200 CDI drive very nicely though in terms of everyday performance. Hell, even an A150 M/T or a A160 CDI are quite spirited. Just don't get the Autotronic option for these cars because that SLOWS THEM DOWN big time.


These cars are made for the crowded and parking-space-scarce European metropolitan areas. I live in one of these: Munich. I insist on having the 118i here with me in Munich because it is the perfect city car. Small and compact and I can fit into most parallel parking spaces I come across. Try doing that with a C-Class. Enough said.

That's the main selling point of these two cars by the way. Also, and this is something probably confined to Europe (especially Germany), such cars also appeal to older buyers who have settled down and feel that a C-Class is too much for their needs. Getting into the relatively high-seating position of the A- and B-Class is easy and comfortable for these older people too.



I would also like to point out that just because someone drives a B-Class doesn't mean they're stingy. Often, these people also have another luxury car in their garage like maybe an A6 or an E-Class or even an S-Class or SL. The A- or B-Class they driving just happens to be their grocery getter for city use etc. There are many people here where I live for whom this little analogy applies to.
 
These cars should never, ever come the U.S. People don't want a hatchback Mercedes and especially one that is FWD. It will get killed on price compared to other fwd hatchback/crossovers. Until there is a proper sedan/coupe/convertible then don't bother bringing this line here. Even then the FWD won't be in keeping with the MB tradition.

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The high-roof shape is the secret to the interior space of the B-Class and its good versatility. It's the reason you can comfortably sit four to five adults in these cars and still enjoy a reasonable amount of leg and head space.


Contrary to what Raoul said, I don't find the current A- and B-Classes to be unrefined. The 4-cylinder engines powering them, especially the gasoline motors, are quite refined and smooth. The comfort qualities of the A-Class aren't great but the B-Class is pretty good in this regard though. In turn the A-Class drives much sportier than the B-Class, which honestly feels like a 1970s American landyacht with its excessive body roll.

FWD also isn't an issue except for the gimmicky and overpowered A200 Turbo / B200 Turbo models which torque steer like crazy. I don't think we need to talk about performance here because these cars aren't performance oriented at all. It has to be said that the A/B200 and A/B200 CDI drive very nicely though in terms of everyday performance. Hell, even an A150 M/T or a A160 CDI are quite spirited. Just don't get the Autotronic option for these cars because that SLOWS THEM DOWN big time.


These cars are made for the crowded and parking-space-scarce European metropolitan areas. I live in one of these: Munich. I insist on having the 118i here with me in Munich because it is the perfect city car. Small and compact and I can fit into most parallel parking spaces I come across. Try doing that with a C-Class. Enough said.

That's the main selling point of these two cars by the way. Also, and this is something probably confined to Europe (especially Germany), such cars also appeal to older buyers who have settled down and feel that a C-Class is too much for their needs. Getting into the relatively high-seating position of the A- and B-Class is easy and comfortable for these older people too.



I would also like to point out that just because someone drives a B-Class doesn't mean they're stingy. Often, these people also have another luxury car in their garage like maybe an A6 or an E-Class or even an S-Class or SL. The A- or B-Class they driving just happens to be their grocery getter for city use etc. There are many people here where I live for whom this little analogy applies to.

Thing is... compare an A-Class to a Golf: the Golf is way way more comfortable, more agile, roomier (limited width for both A and B), more powerful, more silent, wider and better seats and seating position; all that while being noticeably cheaper.

Gimme ONE argument for the A-Class,! The only thing you'll find is that it's shorter while offering good legroom and bootspace. Other than that, it's clearly inferior in every aspect.

And it should not be that a Mercedes is inferior to a VW.

Same for the B: it has no selling point other than being badged as a Mercedes, and is clearly inferior to the products offered by the competition in nearly every aspect.



The sandwich concept means the center of gravity is extremely high. Thus, the suspension are very short and quite stiff to avoid excessive bodyroll, resulting in a poor comfort for an average comportment (A-Class) or an average comfort for a poor bodycontrol (B-Class).

Besides that, having this double floor means the floor where the seats are attached is very high in the car. Thus the seating position is rather awkward, as you either seat to close from the floor of the car to be comfortable, or you have your head on the roof.

On the plus point, whar do you get? the motor area is very reduced because of the sandwich concept, so more interior space for the same exterior length; while no safety limitations because the motor is inclined and will not enter the passenger cell in case of a crash. That's pretty much all. For me, it's many many drawbacks for little benefits.

On top of that, the motors are A and B specific and this is very costly. As the next gen will feature conventional body and thus conventional MB engines, the developement of these A/B motors has been totally abandonned, meaning they are not at all up-to-date and lag behind the competition in terms of power and refinement, as well as consumption.

I'd take an A3 or 1-Series in a heartbeat over an A or B. Thiçs can be understandable. I'd rather take a Golf, too. And this is not normal.
 
Why arent Benz supporters speaking of CLC?
There you have a better MB to compare with A3 and 1-series.
 
This is true. The CLC is a far, far better car than A or B. But this thread is about the B-Class... which doesn't look good so far.

But as it will ditch the sandwich body concept, it should be a better car than it is today (which hinestly is not a very difficult task).
 

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