F1 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix

[Bartek S.]

Circuit Map

Budapest

Race Date: 01 Aug 2010
Circuit Name: Hungaroring
Number of Laps: 70Circuit
Length: 4.381 km
Race Distance: 306.630 km
Lap Record: 1:19.071 - M Schumacher (2004)

Massa: I'm here to win

Felipe Massa insists he is going into the Hungarian Grand prix this weekend with his focus on victory, and has denied that he is the number two driver at Ferrari.
Massa missed out on what would have been an emotional victory on the first anniversary of his accident at the Hungaroring in last weekend’s German Grand Prix after Ferrari elected to swap its drivers round in the race.
While the team denied using team orders after Massa was handed a coded message over the radio by engineer Rob Smedley, race stewards thought otherwise and decided that the team had breached the rules on team orders and brought the sport into disrepute – handing out a $100,000 fine and referring the matter to the World Motor Sport Council.
The topic was understandably on the agenda when Massa appeared in the Thursday press conference ahead of the Hungarian Grand Prix this weekend, with the Brazilian being quizzed as to whether he now saw himself as the number two within the Ferrari team after what happened a week ago.
“The time I say that I am a number two driver, I will not race any more,” he replied. “I will fight for the victory here whatever the conditions. I’m working for the team and we know how important that is.”
Massa was also quizzed as to whether he would act differently if he found himself in the same position this weekend, replying with a simple ‘I will win’ when pushed for an answer. Massa had insisted that it was his decision to allow Fernando Alonso
through to take victory at Hockenheim following the message he was given from the pits.

Eurosport.

 

[zegerman]

Yeah, that was a coded message alright. Coded in plain English.

I doubt Ferrari gets anything more for ruining the afternoon of millions and millions of Formula 1 viewers since they so eloquently coded the messages. If needed Ferrari will keep on dropping Massa behind Alonso but more subtly from now on.

I suppose this stuff stirrs the weekend up a bit. Still hate to see such racing :\

 

[Bartek S.]

FP1

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:20.976 29
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:21.106 + 0.130 27
3. Kubica Renault 1:22.072 + 1.096 21
4. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:22.444 + 1.468 17
5. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:22.601 + 1.625 25
6. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:22.764 + 1.788 24
7. Alonso Ferrari 1:22.772 + 1.796 25
8. Rosberg Mercedes 1:22.777 + 1.801 25
9. Schumacher Mercedes 1:22.792 + 1.816 26
10. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:22.966 + 1.990 25
11. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:23.003 + 2.027 19
12. Massa Ferrari 1:23.007 + 2.031 26
13. Petrov Renault 1:23.249 + 2.273 24
14. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:23.327 + 2.351 23
15. di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:23.520 + 2.544 19
16. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:23.780 + 2.804 22
17. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:23.868 + 2.892 28
18. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.075 + 3.099 15
19. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:25.032 + 4.056 22
20. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:25.210 + 4.234 23
21. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:25.990 + 5.014 21
22. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:26.686 + 5.710 17
23. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:26.990 + 6.014 34
24. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:28.157 + 7.181 24

FP2

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:20.087 33
2. Alonso Ferrari 1:20.584 + 0.497 34
3. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:20.597 + 0.510 36
4. Massa Ferrari 1:20.986 + 0.899 33
5. Petrov Renault 1:21.195 + 1.108 33
6. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.308 + 1.221 30
7. Kubica Renault 1:21.375 + 1.288 37
8. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:21.623 + 1.536 41
9. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.730 + 1.643 33
10. Schumacher Mercedes 1:21.773 + 1.686 31
11. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:21.809 + 1.722 38
12. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:21.844 + 1.757 36
13. Rosberg Mercedes 1:22.039 + 1.952 28
14. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:22.212 + 2.125 37
15. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:22.469 + 2.382 43
16. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:22.507 + 2.420 22
17. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:22.602 + 2.515 38
18. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:23.138 + 3.051 36
19. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:24.553 + 4.466 37
20. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:25.376 + 5.289 35
21. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:25.669 + 5.582 32
22. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:26.745 + 6.658 33
23. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:26.798 + 6.711 32
24. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:27.705 + 7.618 5

 

[Bartek S.]

 

[Centurion]

I fear Jenson and Lewis will be overtaken in the standings this weekend, but I don't hope so. With Ferrari back in the frame, upping the performance of the MP25 is mighty important or atleast at the next GP, on the 29th of August, be on the front or second row.

 

[Bartek S.]

FP3
Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m19.574s 17
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m20.058s + 0.484s 15
3. Alonso Ferrari 1m20.724s + 1.150s 19
4. Kubica Renault 1m21.066s + 1.492s 19
5. Massa Ferrari 1m21.264s + 1.690s 16
6. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m21.376s + 1.802s 17
7. Petrov Renault 1m21.399s + 1.825s 15
8. Rosberg Mercedes 1m21.422s + 1.848s 18
9. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m21.473s + 1.899s 18
10. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1m21.513s + 1.939s 18
11. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1m21.705s + 2.131s 19
12. Schumacher Mercedes 1m21.939s + 2.365s 15
13. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1m22.151s + 2.577s 21
14. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m22.337s + 2.763s 20
15. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m22.427s + 2.853s 19
16. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m22.508s + 2.934s 22
17. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m22.918s + 3.344s 14
18. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1m23.708s + 4.134s 8
19. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1m24.547s + 4.973s 19
20. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1m24.576s + 5.002s 22
21. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1m24.623s + 5.049s 22
22. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1m24.805s + 5.231s 17
23. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1m26.479s + 6.905s 21
24. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1m27.176s + 7.602s 21

 

[Bartek S.]

Qual.

Pos Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1:20.417 1:19.573 1:18.773
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:21.132 1:19.531 1:19.184
3. Alonso Ferrari 1:21.278 1:20.237 1:19.987
4. Massa Ferrari 1:21.299 1:20.857 1:20.331
5. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.455 1:20.877 1:20.499
6. Rosberg Mercedes 1:21.212 1:20.811 1:21.082
7. Petrov Renault 1:21.558 1:20.797 1:21.229
8. Kubica Renault 1:21.159 1:20.867 1:21.328
9. de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1:21.891 1:21.273 1:21.411
10. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:21.598 1:21.275 1:21.710
11. Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.422 1:21.292
12. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:21.478 1:21.331
13. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:22.080 1:21.517
14. Schumacher Mercedes 1:21.840 1:21.630
15. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:21.982 1:21.897
16. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:21.789 1:21.927
17. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:21.978 1:21.998
18. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:22.222
19. Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:24.050
20. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:24.120
21. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:24.199
22. di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:25.118
23. Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:26.391
24. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth 1:26.453

 

[Bartek S.]

Kubica still confident in Renault

Robert Kubica has faith that Renault is still on its upward development curve - despite having lost ground to frontrunners Red Bull Racing and Ferrari in recent races.

The Pole played down talk before the Hungarian Grand Prix weekend that he could stage a repeat of his strong performance from Monaco - even though the track characteristics should have been well-suited to his Renault.

Kubica explained that his feelings were prompted by the fact that he thinks Renault is not at as high a performance level compared to the opposition as it was in Monaco back in May.

"Monaco was a long time ago," explained Kubica. "I think things are changing very quickly in F1. The best example was last weekend with Ferrari being very competitive, surprisingly competitive. So, as I say, things are changing very quickly in F1.

"I think we were in better timing in Monaco, we were in better shape compared to our competitors. It looks like now many teams catch up and they are more competitive. And also the Hungaroring is not exactly Monaco as a race track."

Kubica said he never expected Renault to have kept up its impressive early-season development pace – but he thinks for the long term the team still is on course to achieve its potential.

"It will be very difficult and nearly impossible to keep up such a rate of development I would say," he said. "And it is normal at teams that you have through the year up and downs. Sometimes you might discover more potential or more gain than you would be expecting.

"On some other occasions you might get less gain than you are expecting, but what is important is long term. I always say that even if you have new package or something, you have to wait three or four races to see how you are against your competitors.

"You might be in a different zone of development, but all in all I think that is why here it will be difficult to repeat Monaco, I would say nearly impossible, but this track will be better than Silverstone."

Kubica thinks Renault is also finally getting totally on top of its blown diffuser concept in Hungary – having recovered the loss of engine power that came from the repositioning of the exhausts.

"The team had spent quite a lot of time to develop it, and quite a lot of effort to make it work as best as we could so when we introduced it we felt quite ready for it," he said.

"We were quite confident that it could give us an advantage, but of course it is quite a complicated thing. If you introduce it during the season there might be some disadvantage, as we had.

"So in the beginning step-by-step we tried to eliminate as much as we can the disadvantage in order to make it work at 100 per cent. We have here a reasonable step of improvement, and one big disadvantage of the blowing floor which we had since Valencia is gone. I think it will give us a better performance than in recent races."

Renault is expected to introduce its F-duct for the next race in Belgium, which should give the team a boost in terms of straight-line speed.

Autosport.

 

[Centurion]

Can't wait to see vettel pull a schumi move again squeezing the p2 driver into the barrier. He has been terrible off the line fumbling away chances of an easy cruise to victory. Still I think a res bull will won. Overtaking at the hungaroring is near impossible. Best chance to jump someone is off the line or through pit stops.

 

[Bartek S.]

PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS

The Hungarian Grand Prix
The Hungaroring, Hungary;
70 laps; 306.663km;
Weather: Sunny.

Classified:

Pos Driver Team Time
1. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1h41:05.571
2. Alonso Ferrari + 17.821
3. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 19.252
4. Massa Ferrari + 27.474
5. Petrov Renault + 1:13.100
6. Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth + 1:16.700
7. De la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap
8. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 1 lap
9. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 1 lap
10. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth + 1 lap
11. Schumacher Mercedes + 1 lap
12. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap
13. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes + 1 lap
14. Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth + 3 laps
15. Trulli Lotus-Cosworth + 3 laps
16. Glock Virgin-Cosworth + 3 laps
17. Senna HRT-Cosworth + 3 laps
18. Di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth + 4 laps
19. Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth + 4 laps

Fastest lap: Vettel, 1:22.362

Not classified/retirements:

Driver Team On lap
Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 25
Kubica Renault 25
Rosberg Mercedes 17
Sutil Force India-Mercedes 17
Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 2

 

[Bartek S.]

World Championship standings, round 12:

Drivers:
1. Webber 161
2. Hamilton 157
3. Vettel 151
4. Button 147
5. Alonso 141
6. Massa 97
7. Rosberg 94
8. Kubica 89
9. Schumacher 38
10. Sutil 35
11. Barrichello 30
12. Petrov 17
13. Kobayashi 17
14. Liuzzi 12
15. Hulkenberg 10
16. Buemi 7
17. De la Rosa 6
18. Alguersuari 3

Constructors:
1. Red Bull-Renault 312
2. McLaren-Mercedes 304
3. Ferrari 238
4. Mercedes 132
5. Renault 106
6. Force India-Mercedes 47
7. Williams-Cosworth 40
8. Sauber-Ferrari 23
9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 10

 

[Bartek S.]

Schumacher gets 10-place grid penalty

Michael Schumacher will lose ten places on the starting grid for the Belgian Grand Prix after being penalised for his driving in Hungary.
The German and Williams driver Rubens Barrichello came very close to crashing after Schumacher pushed the Brazilian against the wall on the main straight as the Brazilian attempted to pass.
The move angered Barrichello, who slammed Schumacher's move as 'crazy' after the race.
Schumacher himself said he had done nothing wrong.
The FIA stewards penalised the seven-time champion as he had "illegitimately impeded car 9 during an overtaking manoeuvre."
The Mercedes driver will lose ten places on the grid in the next race in Belgium.

Autosport

 

[bmwownage]

Schumacher had been doing these stuff for long, just that he was winning at Ferrari before and FIA never seem to penalise him for anything.

 

[Bartek S.]

He still thinks that he's a king, but he's just history. Unfortunately he will do his old tricks but he’s not going to get away with that anymore. An old dirty player is going to be remember forever.

 

[Bartek S.]

 

[Sunny]

I was rooting for Schumi's comeback, but now I think he should just hang up his gloves, looks pretty sad. Yes, he did the same shit before, but then, it looked like a cut throat champion, but now he just looks desperate. Oh and, I am fast becoming a Webber fan. Fantastic drive.

 

[Centurion]

I anticipated Vettel to do a Schumi but the man himself, Michael Schumacher, was in character and squeeed Rubbens. The speed at which they was driving was nuts, if Rubbens would have touched the wall, the accident would have been frightening, on the level with Kubica in Australia 2008. Schumi's been terrible PR for MB GP and is so far the donkey of F1 2010. The team is nothing but a fiasco so far.

Vettel is looking less and less like a champion. He's had some many poles, but simply fails to make it stick. Consistency seem to be an issue for him, he doesn't come across as a calm and composed driver. Webber is alright but neither he's amazing on days when he's not on pole. This race marks a turning point. RBR have overtaken Mclaren int he standings and both the championships are now theirs to lose. I have to say that Newey is one hell of a car designer. Not only does Mclaren have to catch up making their EBD work but now they have to develop a questionable flexible front wing.

Spa is a car circuit and circuit is loooooooooooooooong meaning that Red Bull have an even bigger opportunity to dominate. By that race Mclaren and Ferrari must chose what driver they want to back if they fancy at least fighting for the drivers' world championship. From what I've seen so this season, my favorite drivers are Lewis, Kobayashi and Kubica.

 

[siko]

Holy flying wheel Batman!!!

Watching the (rerun) race right now.. the first pit stop was wild!!!! I can't believe that wheel didn't kill anyone?!?!

 

[Remy Zero]

Senna did the same. Prost did it to Senna. Hamilton did it to Glock. Webber did it to Massa. Schumi did it to Webber. Alonso did it to Massa...etc etc.

It happens. MS has always been that sorta driver since the beginning. I don't think he'll ever change. While i admit it was a rather naughty move, it didn't deserve a penalty. And MS didn't break any rules, as far as i'm concerned.

Rubens was on fresher tyres, saw a gap and went for it. When he saw MS started closing the door, he had an option to fall back or go for it. He went for it and i applauded, but his whining was nothing new. He always complains. I will never forget what he did for Ferrari, but he's always complaining.

I don't see an issue of the penalty, if the FIA deemed it was a penalty. But i just wish they'll be more consistent with their penalties. Not let off Webber-Massa a few years ago at Fuji, let off Alonso-Massa and then punish MS for this.

 

[Remy Zero]

On the side note, looks like Webber is looking for sponsorship from Gillette i think..