Avalon 2010 Chicago Auto Show: 2011 Toyota Avalon

[coolraoul]

Well, OK those recalls are hinting at serious quality problems, but it doesn't mean the cars are going to be unreliable or poorly built.

Only time will tell if those recalls will fix the problems or if Toyota really has dropped the ball big time.

 

[Giannis]

Toyota needs quality control. Then they shall focus on their designs.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

They just need better designers. They've gotten worse and worse over the years.
Bangle had some very controversial designs, but I LOVED every single one of them. They were a lot better than these "evolution era" designs of theirs.

Well designs are pretty much subjective. Of course this Avalon is far from the looks of the W221. Then again Honda and Toyota are designing their cars for their customers.

Right now if I were to say the best Japanese company design wise would be Nissan.

Toyota needs quality control. Then they shall focus on their designs.

Yea I think just hired someone for that. It will take them a long time to get over the pedal issue.

 

[Shining Star]

Right now if I were to say the best Japanese company design wise would be Nissan.

Really? With their just released Juke?

The exterior is actually (dare I say) handsome for the Avalon, but the interior does look low rent.

 

[adeel2010]

Well designs are pretty much subjective. Of course this Avalon is far from the looks of the W221. Then again Honda and Toyota are designing their cars for their customers.

Right now if I were to say the best Japanese company design wise would be Nissan.

Yeah can't argue with that.
I definitely agree, Nissan/Infiniti are by far superior.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Really? With their just released Juke?

The exterior is actually (dare I say) handsome for the Avalon, but the interior does look low rent.

It's not based on a particular model. I generally like their products design. Maybe not all, but most.

Especially their US offerings.

 

[ateekt]

It's garbage, even when comparing to American cars, not Benz/BMW. Same price range as my chrysler 300 but much worse car.

I beg to differ!!! You think 300C (built on outdated Merc's chassis) is a better car than Avalon? Yeah, maybe if the Rwd is your only concern!

Avalon is a treat to drive, besides the torque-steer! And that issue is for youngsters like us cuz' Avalon is built of aged/senior ones, who never metal-the-pedal!

 

[adeel2010]

I beg to differ!!! You think 300C (built on outdated Merc's chassis) is a better car than Avalon? Yeah, maybe if the Rwd is your only concern!

Avalon is a treat to drive, besides the torque-steer! And that issue is for youngsters like us cuz' Avalon is built of aged/senior ones, who never metal-the-pedal!

I'm basing this purely on looks. My 300 is a bargain and looks pretty good too. Avalon is just plain ugly IMO.

 

[VroomVroom]

Martin will kill me....


It looks quite a lot like the new Legacy

 

[ateekt]

I'm basing this purely on looks. My 300 is a bargain and looks pretty good too. Avalon is just plain ugly IMO.

Avalon buyers, buy it for being Toyota & to drive it daily with no worries for good long years. I didn't like the new Avalon but last one over 300C for me, any day!

Reliability should be among the basic factors to consider, when paying $30K+ for a daily-driver, instead of just pretty face! Avalon's value is unbeatable in it's segment.

 

[adeel2010]

Avalon buyers, buy it for being Toyota & to drive it daily with no worries for good long years. I didn't like the new Avalon but last one over 300C for me, any day!

Reliability should be among the basic factors to consider, when paying $30K+ for a daily-driver, instead of just pretty face! Avalon's value is unbeatable in it's segment.

As a daily driver, I haven't had a single problem with my 300. It's been running perfectly smooth and looking pretty good doing it.

 

[coolraoul]

As much as I repeect Toyota, if this thing costs the same as a 300C... Well 300C for me, anyday! Reliable, good-looking, nice interior, superb chassis.

 

[Kowalski]

300C for me, even though it's a Chrysler.

 

[ateekt]

lol HOH, have you owned/driven one ? The car has problems putting power on the front wheels, torque steering all the time, the front wheels are worn in 10KM or so, the tires are squealing at 40Km/h or less in turns, wind whistles at high speed, the list goes on and on.

If you call torque-steer an issue & had that problem with the Avalon, than I'd suggest you to stay away from the cars like Maxima & Tl Type-S etc!

Mostly it's our driving style that makes some cars fail in satisfying us! Avalon is great for what it's built for! And it sure isn't for young dudes with heavy foot.

 

[Sayyaaf]

Nop, I've driven lots and lots of Maximas, it drives much much better than the Avalon, the Avalon not only torque steers, but understeers at bends to a dangours level. The camry felt more balanced compared to the avalon while they have the same chassi ..