savage-It
Meister Mechaniker
yes you are right, it comes from the famous small town of Amatrice, that unfortunately and recently suffered because of an heartquakeAmatriciana, please
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savage-It
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there will be a Dino and you know what many magazines reported already....
savage-It
Meister Mechaniker
Mafalda you know very well that foreigners love to ridicule Italians by calling them eating spaghetti/mangiaspaghetti.
What they do not know is that we are enough artists to cook pasta in hundreds (hundreds) of different ways , mixing every kind of ingredients,satisfying many different palates and every kind of food needs.Of course then we have thousands (thousands) of second courses and vegetables and cakes. And we have then the pizza.
But of course it is easier to try to ridicule us , because is faster and because many of them in this way will feel superior. And I smile living abroad most of my time, comparing some of their cucine with our one...
Sorry for the OT.
I like the name Purosangue , its sound makes my blood running faster !I will never buy a Ferrari Potatoes and of course Amatriciana sorry.
What they do not know is that we are enough artists to cook pasta in hundreds (hundreds) of different ways , mixing every kind of ingredients,satisfying many different palates and every kind of food needs.Of course then we have thousands (thousands) of second courses and vegetables and cakes. And we have then the pizza.
But of course it is easier to try to ridicule us , because is faster and because many of them in this way will feel superior. And I smile living abroad most of my time, comparing some of their cucine with our one...
Sorry for the OT.
I like the name Purosangue , its sound makes my blood running faster !I will never buy a Ferrari Potatoes and of course Amatriciana sorry.
hoffmeister_fan
Kraftwagen König
Nothing against "Purosangue" name, I just think it's more suited for a car like a LaFer successor or a designation for a Special Series car rather than a large jacked up hatchback, something that antithetical to what Ferrari has been since its beginning. BTW, I am now pretty ambivalent in Ferrari's intention to make an SUV, I just find it funny that the powers that be, who were so vehemently opposed to it, are walking it back.
Also speaking of names, I'd rather they had used "Monza" on a legit production car rather than a Special Projects car.
Also speaking of names, I'd rather they had used "Monza" on a legit production car rather than a Special Projects car.
savage-It
Meister Mechaniker
On Sunday I will be at dinner with a Ferrari test pilot that drove me in the past between rumors and news until I bought the Speciale.I hope to get news about the Dino.What in Italy is surfing around is that there will be a Dino with a derivated engine from the Giulia Quattroformaggi.If true this car could be placed right in the middle between the next Gt3 and Gt3 Rs .In the middle means that this car could drain many of their contracts expecially now that to get a Gt3 you need to know at least Prauninger...or to pay years before a solid advanced payment to get a chance to be considered a potential customer (crazy)...I really hope that all this will happen before 2020..when the next faboulous Gt3 will be on the market...
sako97
Autotechnik Ace
I took a 812 on an extended test drive... not sure what you mean. Quality of the 812 and GTC4 are the best Ferrari have produced - past (especially) and present. Past models like the 360, F430, and Mondial are sh*tboxes in comparison.
Ferrari owners are adamant about not having excessive driver assistance features. Same goes for Lambo and McLaren.
You sure do like using the word utter. Just an observation my friend.
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LaArtist
Wunderkind of Wheels
Lol he is talking out his ass
klier
Premium
Tnx for the notice, I'll keep it mind.
And I fully agree with the driver's assistance tech, I don't know what got in to me.
I suspect that it will not be called a Dino. Or that it will be more expensive than expected Dino.
LOL
Here is an issue with V6 90°. Irregular firing intervals which is related to sound. Ut's OK for Alfa but it would result with odd sound for a Ferrari engine.
So for me V6 120° sounds very likely. Ferrari used that engine configuration in Formula 1. Even firing order, Ferrari sound... All can be achieved. And also a very low center of gravity.
Mafalda
Stuttgart Specialist
Stunning pics!
kingjr9000
Das Beste Enthusiast
What’s the positioning of the SF90 Stradale?
“We had 488 and 812 and saw space to create a new segment with no consolidation to the 812 or 488. So we needed to add a load of performance over the 812 and make new features over the 488, which is not hybrid or all-wheel drive.
“So we defined a new segment, a top segment for sports cars. We think we will do it and the first feedback has been positive.
“It’s been difficult for us to catch customers in the top segment over €300,000 (£275,000) who are used to buying mid/rear-engined cars.”
How do you feel about adding more weight to make hybrid cars?
“It hurts! It adds 250kg for the entire hybrid content. It’s clear you can’t compensate for 250kg. You can do some by adding carbonfibre parts and structures. There’s also no mechanical reverse gear. You use the electric motor to turn backwards. We have a lot of these little things.
“To have low weight is good for a few things: acceleration, but with 1000hp that’s no problem. Then agility: how responsive is the car? That’s weight and inertia. More important is the wheelbase: it’s very important not to extend the wheelbase so you can have low inertia. So the wheelbase of SF90 is the same as the F8. Next is a low centre of gravity: the engine is very, very low.
“Then the front axle: the two electric motors and cabling weigh about 65-70kg, but the torque vectoring they give to 200-210kph [125-130mph] is the equivalent of about 200kg of weight you’d need to save out of the car to have the same objective assessment of driving emotions.”
The F8 Tributo is an update to the existing 488. What are you planning for a successor?
“From the architecture point of view, our philosophy is the same: weight, wheelbase and centre of gravity. From the pure technical point of view, there are two axes. One is performance. The other is driving emotion.
“Performance is everything you can read about in a magazine: 0-100kph, power, torque – all these numbers.
“Emotions are the actual secret of Ferrari. Take Bugatti: they put 1000hp in a car, and if you go straight, it works very well. To have fun on mountain streets, we think this is our secret. It’s not just about being on the limit. Our cars are always fun.
“But what’s fun? It’s sound, perceived acceleration – not just the 0-100kph or 0-200kph times. I accelerate and I feel the torque and how the acceleration evolves. It’s not like driving a diesel. It’s a turbo that evolves power and torque like on a naturally aspirated engine.
“Then it’s a go-kart feeling. Everything you do brings a controllable feel to the car. Every customer can drive a Ferrari and have fun.
“We have a very special engineering approach which combines engineering data with perceived emotions. We have a catalogue of manoeuvres which are connected to car characteristics perceived from customers. So we talk a lot to customers and our test drivers are very capable of translating customer perceptions into more engineering evaluations of cars.
“So back to the F8 and its successor. If an SF90 is a very performance-orientated car with high fun to drive, the F8 successor will have less performance [than 1000hp] but maybe more fun to drive. More driving emotions, more capable, even lighter… We’re thinking of some specialities.”
Will you continue to develop V12 engines?
“We will try and build it for as long as possible. I am convinced there is still space for it on the market and we can do it technically and manage emissions. We’re working on the next EU6c emissions and will add gasoline particulate filters to manage this.”
With the SF90 Stradale and the upcoming SUV in 2022, there will be six Ferrari model lines. Will you stick at six in the future?
“No. The company has to grow. By repositioning that, you can grow in a certain way, or add certain models. We’re not interested in volume. It’s revenue. Volume doesn’t interest us.”
Will you make a pure-electric Ferrari?
“Right now, the technology is not mature enough. Look at customer requirements: the most important thing is sound. Today, there is also a problem on range, which for a sports car really is a problem. The range of an electric car is especially so if you accelerate or go with high speed. These are contributors to sports cars. You need high speeds and you can’t limit to 200kph. If you’d like to remove that technical constraint, you add so much weight it’s not a sports car.
“Maybe in a few years, it could be a possibility. To sell the technology, you need a big step.”
Ferrari tends to make a new hypercar around every 10 years. As the LaFerrari is almost seven years old, is work under way on its successor?
“It is true that almost every 10 years we bring one out. It’s also true that Ferrari only does one when new technology is available. So we have to understand what is the technology we want to be on new supercars.”
Will you make more special models like the Monza?
“We want to segment our offering into four pillars: GT, sports cars, Icona [icons] and Special Series. Icona [where the Monza sits] will be a line of cars.
Ferrari SP2 Monza: First ride in ultra-rare speedster
"Monza is not the only one. We have a few we discuss. It’s a big success for us, Monza. There are less technical constraints with these cars. To drive Monza is like driving a motorcycle.”
“We had 488 and 812 and saw space to create a new segment with no consolidation to the 812 or 488. So we needed to add a load of performance over the 812 and make new features over the 488, which is not hybrid or all-wheel drive.
“So we defined a new segment, a top segment for sports cars. We think we will do it and the first feedback has been positive.
“It’s been difficult for us to catch customers in the top segment over €300,000 (£275,000) who are used to buying mid/rear-engined cars.”
How do you feel about adding more weight to make hybrid cars?
“It hurts! It adds 250kg for the entire hybrid content. It’s clear you can’t compensate for 250kg. You can do some by adding carbonfibre parts and structures. There’s also no mechanical reverse gear. You use the electric motor to turn backwards. We have a lot of these little things.
“To have low weight is good for a few things: acceleration, but with 1000hp that’s no problem. Then agility: how responsive is the car? That’s weight and inertia. More important is the wheelbase: it’s very important not to extend the wheelbase so you can have low inertia. So the wheelbase of SF90 is the same as the F8. Next is a low centre of gravity: the engine is very, very low.
“Then the front axle: the two electric motors and cabling weigh about 65-70kg, but the torque vectoring they give to 200-210kph [125-130mph] is the equivalent of about 200kg of weight you’d need to save out of the car to have the same objective assessment of driving emotions.”
The F8 Tributo is an update to the existing 488. What are you planning for a successor?
“From the architecture point of view, our philosophy is the same: weight, wheelbase and centre of gravity. From the pure technical point of view, there are two axes. One is performance. The other is driving emotion.
“Performance is everything you can read about in a magazine: 0-100kph, power, torque – all these numbers.
“Emotions are the actual secret of Ferrari. Take Bugatti: they put 1000hp in a car, and if you go straight, it works very well. To have fun on mountain streets, we think this is our secret. It’s not just about being on the limit. Our cars are always fun.
“But what’s fun? It’s sound, perceived acceleration – not just the 0-100kph or 0-200kph times. I accelerate and I feel the torque and how the acceleration evolves. It’s not like driving a diesel. It’s a turbo that evolves power and torque like on a naturally aspirated engine.
“Then it’s a go-kart feeling. Everything you do brings a controllable feel to the car. Every customer can drive a Ferrari and have fun.
“We have a very special engineering approach which combines engineering data with perceived emotions. We have a catalogue of manoeuvres which are connected to car characteristics perceived from customers. So we talk a lot to customers and our test drivers are very capable of translating customer perceptions into more engineering evaluations of cars.
“So back to the F8 and its successor. If an SF90 is a very performance-orientated car with high fun to drive, the F8 successor will have less performance [than 1000hp] but maybe more fun to drive. More driving emotions, more capable, even lighter… We’re thinking of some specialities.”
Will you continue to develop V12 engines?
“We will try and build it for as long as possible. I am convinced there is still space for it on the market and we can do it technically and manage emissions. We’re working on the next EU6c emissions and will add gasoline particulate filters to manage this.”
With the SF90 Stradale and the upcoming SUV in 2022, there will be six Ferrari model lines. Will you stick at six in the future?
“No. The company has to grow. By repositioning that, you can grow in a certain way, or add certain models. We’re not interested in volume. It’s revenue. Volume doesn’t interest us.”
Will you make a pure-electric Ferrari?
“Right now, the technology is not mature enough. Look at customer requirements: the most important thing is sound. Today, there is also a problem on range, which for a sports car really is a problem. The range of an electric car is especially so if you accelerate or go with high speed. These are contributors to sports cars. You need high speeds and you can’t limit to 200kph. If you’d like to remove that technical constraint, you add so much weight it’s not a sports car.
“Maybe in a few years, it could be a possibility. To sell the technology, you need a big step.”
Ferrari tends to make a new hypercar around every 10 years. As the LaFerrari is almost seven years old, is work under way on its successor?
“It is true that almost every 10 years we bring one out. It’s also true that Ferrari only does one when new technology is available. So we have to understand what is the technology we want to be on new supercars.”
Will you make more special models like the Monza?
“We want to segment our offering into four pillars: GT, sports cars, Icona [icons] and Special Series. Icona [where the Monza sits] will be a line of cars.
Ferrari SP2 Monza: First ride in ultra-rare speedster
"Monza is not the only one. We have a few we discuss. It’s a big success for us, Monza. There are less technical constraints with these cars. To drive Monza is like driving a motorcycle.”
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