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SCOTT27 · May 24, 2011

An online journalist PM'd me regarding this statement that was found on a German forum.
I will correct to let you know what is ongoing.

Big news here. BMW M will start producing car that won´t be based in any existing BMW model.

The strategy has just begun and where it is at is a few sketches by the design department and ideas conjured around a conference table.
We have no production plans yet. But if green-lit it will be after 2015.

The new M1 will be powered by the new M6 V8 or by a radical I6. The car would compete with the SLS, R8, 911 and the whole bunch of supercars out there.

Again powerplants , engine placement etc is not final as the car exists on paper. The strategy is called M-one because it will be the first of it's kind in a generation. A proposal for exclusivity and using the M badge and not being an existing BMW. It could be full production or it could be sold as an exclusive edition as I mention there is still a lot to determine.

It is planned to feature carbon fiber chasis and all the new tech BMW has already shown on recent concepts.

BMW will share CFRP resources with it's other brands including M once the i3 and i8 get underway. BMW M was always destined to inherit some of the technology know-how and BMW M will showcase two models (one next month) on it's lightweight knowhow and one which focuses entirely on material technology as showcased by the 328 Hommage.

Of course this is the direction we are aiming the strategy at, but given that this is not part of the "20" the new 20 models from BMW due before 2015. The resources to have something effectively production ready after 2015 will be far more cost effective for the strategy because CFRP will be in mass volume production.

The sketch I´ve seen is a mix between the Vision Connected Drive and the i8.

The sketch was developed entirely for a different purpose. But the idea did catch attention and since BMW did not focus on the design angle for the Connected Drive concept car they were taken aback when reaction to the car was very well received. But since the sketch caught senior attention they have added a roof and a higher windscreen to judge reaction and you could see the return of the concept this time as a coupe.
But it could form the car/s in question because of it's bloodline to the original and hommage of the M1. It could hypothetically be based on the next M3 with a bespoke body applied to the chassis and engine of the M3?
But that is one of many suggestions being discussed prior from submitting the proposal.

But that´s not everthing, a smaller M car will come, to fight the Cayman, with 4 cyl or even 3 cyl powerplants.

Again it is part of the M-one strategy and is another idea to fullfill both ends of the market with a smaller concept and the larger concept.
Again the ideas exist on paper and relate to suggestions such as the modular structure for the F20/F30 family which will be able to offer front,mid and rear configuration for the engine and again be more cost effective. The use of specially developed 4 or 3 cylinders are very much in the lightweight idea of thinking.

BMW will once again expand their line up but upmarket this time, by 2015. This new expansion entails 7 Series Gran Coupe (CS 2.0) and the new Z8.

The new CS if we bypassed the economic crisis would be here by now and everyone would be drooling at the prospect of the car. Sadly here we are with the CS being a casualty but not a closed chapter.
BMW always intended to go back to the shelf and have now suggested CS:2 for the next generation 7er using the next generation modular matrix for the next 5 ,6, 7, X5 and X6. Again the CS should the future treat it well will be after 2015. A new upper range Roadster has been designed and will soon move forward to entering it's development beginnings.

By 2016. China is expected to be the largest market for Premium luxury models. Sales are expected to be in the region of 1Million. With sales of 2million projected by 2020. It is very much within BMW's strategy in the second half of the decade to launch more premium models to take advantage of this growth.

Expect new X3 M and X1 M to finance such exotics projetcs.

Not only will the M's provide subsidies. but also BMW's FWD family of cars as well as the expanse of the 1er and 3er family.
X3 M is coming , an X1M is being looked at with the engineers having put the 1M's engine in the engine bay of an X1. If X1 surpasses 200,000 units by the end of the year we will see something.

But before that we will see the BMW 1er M Cabrio which will run out the end of the E88 production.

NarutoRamen · May 24, 2011

Thanks for clearing this up. Some straight forward answers there.

Human · May 26, 2011

SCOTT27 and GCF featured on WorldCarFans

BMW M1 under development - report

The rumor that won't die

BMW insider Scott27 is reporting the company is considering a new M1.

While this has been rumored for years, Scott says the car in the early stages of development and only a few sketches have been created. No pictures have surfaced, but the car reportedly adopts styling elements from the i8 and Vision Connected Drive concept.

Performance details are highly speculative, but the car could adopt a carbon fiber chassis and an engine from the next-generation M3 or M5.

If approved, the M1 would likely be launched after 2015 but we aren't getting our hopes up.

Note: BMW M1 Homage concept pictured

Source: German Car Forum via BMW Blog:t-cheers:

Read more: BMW M1 under development - report

klier · May 26, 2011

^^ Well, WCF sucks since it isn't GermanCarFans anymore, and Scott basically lives in his own reality on the internet.

SCOTT27 · May 26, 2011

Well, WCF sucks since it isn't GermanCarFans anymore, and Scott basically lives in his own reality on the internet.

I really think it would help, if people actually read the original article before deciding on reporting it as factual.

Human · May 26, 2011

LOL. And somehow I just new that I had to copy and paste the relevant article

First and foremost I did it because the Forum (GCF) I am a proudly a member of was mentioned and the contributer (SCOTT27) to our Forum...

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