7 Series (G11/G12) [Spy shots] BMW 7er (G11) Spy Pics & Info

[klier]

^ We have the 6er GC now, people are forgetting it. That's the car to combat the Panny, btw, @Artist.

 

[Human]

^ We have the 6er GC now, people are forgetting it. That's the car to combat the Panny, btw, @Artist.

Correct! Including myself And why? It's a masterpiece, only reason I can honestly put on the table is that I am the proverbial monkey that covers his eyes with his hands. See I want one so badly, just have to deal with so many new Beemers coming our way.

 

[LaArtist]

^ We have the 6er GC now, people are forgetting it. That's the car to combat the Panny, btw, @Artist.

Well being that its new and it cant hold itself against a Panamera GTS let alone the Turbo or Turbo S..

I think that battle is lost

 

[Carmaker1]

Next-gen BMW 7-Series grabbed on camera for second time

Out in 2015 or 2016

The next generation of the BMW 7-Series has returned for a second round of spy shots.
If it won't be out towards the end of 2015, it means the Bavarian company will launch it in early 2016. BMW's flagship model is reportedly known as the G11 and will probably feature an evolutionary design. Don't judge the car's looks by these spy photos as some of the body panels are taken from the current 7-Series, including the rear bumper.
The front of the car shows a slightly lower hood and grille, while the trunk lid appears to be different as well. It is believed the next-gen 7-Series will benefit from a lightweight architecture encompassing carbon fiber and aluminum which could result in a loss of 204 kg (450 lbs). Aside from the weight drop, engines will be more fuel efficient while the array of Efficient Dynamics technologies will be expanded....Read more at World Car Fans.

 

[Carmaker1]

Slightly differing images from autoevolution:

The technology BMW developed for the i3 and i8 models ail benefit one particular future car, the next generation 7 Series full-size luxury sedan.

Before we look into the future for an in-depth analysis of the 7, let's turn our attention to Nover 2008, when the 5th generation F01/F02 went on sale. Here was a car that spelled the end for the ugly Bangle era design and made this car an executive once again. Aluminum block diesels and twin-turbo V8 made this the choice for people who wanted more driving thrills than the rival Mercedes S-Class could offer.

Even though a facelift for the 7 Series was introduced last year, Mercedes will step up its game, launching the new S-Class in Stuttgart shortly, and judging from the interior and exterior photos we have at our disposal, BMW is in for a fight.

Their new flagship sedan is scheduled to arrive in 2015, but the German automaker is already hard at work developing all the new technologies that will eventually trickle down to other Bimmers. The 6th generation 7 Series is being developed under the internal code-name G11 and is still in the early prototype phases.

Some of the body panels on this prototype, which was spotted testing on a frozen lake in Scandinavia, actually belong to the current 7 Series. But the car will be much different under the skin.

Lightness Is the 7 Series' Middle Name

Coincidently, 2015 is also the year when European emissions watch dogs force the new EU6 standards. But the G11 7 Series should have no problem meeting them. BMW is a pioneer in using plastics for body panels, but the next luxury saloon will also have carbon fiber and lots of aluminum, used throughout the chassis. Judging from the way they've used it so far, carbon fiber will most likely be used for the roof and hood. Weight savings could be as high as 200 kg (440 lbs), though most will offer a little bit less than that.

BMW has had varying success with its ActiveHybrid models, but they will likely take things a step further than that, launching plug-in hybrid versions that can run around town on electricity alone. The success of the Tesla Model S shows rich clients are no longer put off by electric cars and enjoy the silence the afford.

A flagship of Modern Technology

Any German flagship model usually debuts blows anything that came before it right out of the water. The 6th generation 7 Series will be no exception, offering all the latest safety systems and more. Just like the next-gen X5, it will have active braking and a pedestrian airbag under the bonnet.

The interment cluster will be fully digital, and most likely fully customizable as well. The 7 Series will also offer upgraded navigation, internet connectivity and will likely have live traffic updates to challenge the S-Class' TomTom-based systems.

BTW, don't fall for the very false expectations to see this in 2016. This car is more far along than most expect, so one should expect to see it late next year or in early 2015.

 

[michaelhutchence]

First S class W222 photos appeared on february 2010. After 3 years, in February 2013 we saw photos with the car camouflaged and know that we'll have to wait another 3 months to see the real thing. So, in the case of the 7er you expect to see the first pics on February 2013 and the real deal on late 2014 or early 2015 ? In let's say 2 complete years you expect that we will see the car ?

 

[Carmaker1]

First S class W222 photos appeared on february 2010. After 3 years, in February 2013 we saw photos with the car camouflaged and know that we'll have to wait another 3 months to see the real thing. So, in the case of the 7er you expect to see the first pics on February 2013 and the real deal on late 2014 or early 2015 ? In let's say 2 complete years you expect that we will see the car ?

I see what you mean, but the difference between that is BMW public road-testing periods differ from those at Mercedes-Benz. The first W222 photos were test mules and didn't change until December 9, 2010 when the final car started testing. FEP stage began on February 22, 2012. The prior W221 generation was testing mules from early April 2002, with final design prototypes starting in December 2002 and FEP from June 2004. It was revealed in June 2005. The first F01 mules were spotted in late February 2006 in full E65 bodies and then prototypes seen in partial E65 panels from September 2006. The FEP F01 appeared in April 2008, being unveiled in July 2008. This is what I mean:

W221 Mule-April 8, 2002

Full Prototypes: December 2002-Summer 2004

FEP-June 2004

The W221 went on sale in September 2005.

F01 Test Mule-February 21, 2006

Full F01 prototype-September 16, 2006

The G11 prototypes are similar to what was seen of the F01 in September 2006.

FEP-April 2, 2008

Went on sale in November 2008.

W222 Mule-February 9, 2010

Full W222 Prototype-December 9, 2010

FEP W222-February 22, 2012

The S-Class and 7-series testing cycles cannot be compared as the latter spends less time testing in public and design freeze-to-production is much shorter. Within 20-21 months, hopefully the G11 will be revealed.

 

[Deleted member 25]

It will be pure pownage, just like the F10, since the very first mules the proportions appear to be paramount.

 

[Ham8]

w221 prototype was first seen in 2003
http://www.mb-wallpaper.com/secrets/2003.htm

 

[klier]

It will be pure pownage, just like the F10, since the very first mules the proportions appear to be paramount.

Well said!

 

[Carmaker1]

w221 prototype was first seen in 2003
http://www.mb-wallpaper.com/secrets/2003.htm

Thanks for finding this page, as I searched for it earlier on. I also assumed the W221 prototype was first seen in 2003, but it was likely December 2002 as this Auto Week article from June 2004 referred to 18 months.

http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=carnews &loc_code=index&content_code=0Spied! Mercedes' World-Beater 2006 S-Class Luxury Flagship


By GREG KABLE

This computer-generated rendering, based on the latest scoop photographs, provides an accurate indication of the swoopy appearance we can expect in the next-generation S-Class. (Photos by G. Lehmann / Hidden Image)

Mercedes-Benz is taking no chances with its all-new 2006 S-Class. Along with the evolutionary appearance revealed here, Stuttgart's future luxury flagship receives a new range of engines as well as an improved interior and a host of high-tech features, all aimed at fending off challenges posed by the BMW 7 Series, Audi A8, Volkswagen Phaeton, Cadillac STS and Jaguar XJ.

Codenamed W221, the big sedan arrives in North American showrooms in early 2006 following its world debut at next year's Frankfurt motor show. That's still quite a ways off, but in a clear display of Mercedes-Benz's intent to see the S-Class remain atop the luxury car ranks, prototypes have being plying the roads around Stuttgart for 18 months in what has been described to AutoWeek as one of the German carmaker's most intensive development programs ever.

 

[Carmaker1]

It will be pure pownage, just like the F10, since the very first mules the proportions appear to be paramount.

Are these really mules though? I thought they were regular prototypes. I'm a little confused as to whether it's really a G11 prototype in F01/02 panels or a disguised F01 body with G11 internals.

 

[klier]

^^ there is not really a difference is there??
Still it's more like a mule than a prototype imo. Testing the G11 through F01.

Well being that its new and it cant hold itself against a Panamera GTS let alone the Turbo or Turbo S..

I think that battle is lost

You're funny.

 

[LaArtist]

^ No no only serious..call me out when you see a 7er being faster than a Panamera ..
Both should be off the same generation.

If you do that ..i will be funny

 

[silkeye]

maybe some bmw engineers read this and get some ideas to this:

i think why 2 screens? why even one screen? make 2 HUDs where the passenger front/right can have his own multi-colored Hud and change (with extra idrive controller) stuff or put things on the windscreen he wants to see.
the rear passengers can have their own led-screens on the back of the front seats.

i m always wondering why the passenger has to see what the driver wants to see.
the passenger could decide when/what he wants to see anything - and on the Hud it wouldnt disturb the driver or vice versa the passenger.

i came to this when i saw the new a-class, the new audi-a3 or the 3-series with the ipad-like screen in the mid...
why share info? why not having your own ? and btw one could concentrate on entertainment and the other on
driving infos...

and i came to this too when i drive my 7s with hud and my guests always wonder why i not looking on the navi-screen or even look down to the digital instruments.

 

[silkeye]

as i earlier wrote in the s-class w222 forum, i m a bit sad about BMWs advertisement skills, i mean they design 5 years ago
a car which is still lightyears ahead of his competitors, with options like dynamic drive selector (engine and suspension separately adjustable), active steering rear axis, head up display, big 10,2" led screen, black panel instrument cluster,
active distance control with lane assist, side dead angle warners, front bumpers corner cams, steer by wire steering...and more...
but they forget to market it like a big thing... so many people reallly dont know what the 7s is capable of.

dear BMW you already made the best car and forgot to tell the people or to show it good.

 

[michaelhutchence]

But the sensation of comfort and luxury didn't overtake the S class. And regarding those dual HUDs Mercedes alrady has an option called "split-view" so the driver can see what he wants and the passenger can see anything else, so at MB your problem is solved.

 

[Levi68]

maybe some bmw engineers read this and get some ideas to this:

i think why 2 screens? why even one screen? make 2 HUDs where the passenger front/right can have his own multi-colored Hud and change (with extra idrive controller) stuff or put things on the windscreen he wants to see.
the rear passengers can have their own led-screens on the back of the front seats.

i m always wondering why the passenger has to see what the driver wants to see.
the passenger could decide when/what he wants to see anything - and on the Hud it wouldnt disturb the driver or vice versa the passenger.

i came to this when i saw the new a-class, the new audi-a3 or the 3-series with the ipad-like screen in the mid...
why share info? why not having your own ? and btw one could concentrate on entertainment and the other on
driving infos...

and i came to this too when i drive my 7s with hud and my guests always wonder why i not looking on the navi-screen or even look down to the digital instruments.

You think you can give BMW some ideas? I'm not saying you can't, but this is not a new idea for BMW. There are some factors that have to be considered and that can also hinder the implementation of such technology. On one side it has to be available and on the other side it has to be proven. Anyway both BMW and Mercedes have been looking at this many years ago. If not I think you missed the BMW Connected Drive Vision.

But the sensation of comfort and luxury didn't overtake the S class. And regarding those dual HUDs Mercedes alrady has an option called "split-view" so the driver can see what he wants and the passenger can see anything else, so at MB your problem is solved.

I'm not sure, but I think Lexus has that too.

 

[silkeye]

dunno why you think i cant? i was already invited by bmw to test the nower f01 idrive before it was even on the market.
maybe they selected me out of group people because i was one of the youngest e65 owners.
and now guess what. they asked us, what we would change, add, or what we would like to see in the future.
they checked our ability to use the new idrive, the speed, your eye movement was recorded, they counted how many steps you would need get a job done.
they listen to us, trust me.
and what has to be available? and what has to be proven? what do you mean specifically?

 

[aleks_16]

IMO two screens or for everybody one will just ruin the whole car life. Wasn´t this a good thing to talk to each other ? or two make jokes to lough together? Or are we so "futurama" human that everybody needs his own screen and talk to Facebook? This is really sad if four persons sit in one car and everybody is doing is own shit.