911 [Official] 2014 Porsche 911 GT3

[Levi68]

After re-watching the video I have to say the shiftings are sensational: lightning fast, yet very hard (especially for a double-clutch). Probably Preuninger was right about the "race-sequential-genes"...

I did say it was a sequential when we saw the spy videos. It sounded like one. So yes it proves dual clutch does lack some emotion.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

^Trust the monkey to break it down as it is.

And I said this before, on a technical unknown backroad is where you are glad to have a paddle shift, it is other places where it gets boring.

In every sense of word, it's a great car...absolutely no doubt about it. But Harris makes a very valid point....should a 911 with a GT3 badge be used for the purpose of grabbing market shares? Part of its appeal is that it is supposed to be a challenge to drive. For example, I am not at all capable of driving a 997 GT3, but I definitely have aspirations to one day. I would want to challenge myself. The 991 GT3 seems so appealing but its GT3-ness has been homogenized. By every metric, the 991 iteration is objectively better than the 997 and its predecessors. However, a car like this is not about the objective, it's about the subjective.

But then again, if I had the means to buy a car between $125K-175K, this is the first one on the list.

 

[LaArtist]

Oh god.. CH on the new GT3..my day is made..

Ile be back when ive watched it

 

[LaArtist]

Ah this thing is amazing..just listen to the way it howls, and the way it looks.

It just to good. Everything is perfect.

PS
When it comes to the transmission, i prefer the paddles, as i hate the hasstle of a manual transmission in everyday situations.

And ile be more in those situations compared to tracks and twisting hills.

And for those who really want the MT, there is still hope.. there is still a GT3 RS to come

Porsche rules!

 

[Levi68]

No, for those that still want a GT3 there is a Cayman R to come, without rear-wheel steering and without paddles.

Anyway I don't agree with the manual in this case, just as a manual doesn't make sense in an M5 F10 or in a LaFerrari.

 

[Deleted member 25]

What's the current car of Harris ?

 

[Sunny]

^He sold the 4.0 and got a 599, but I think he sold that too cause of running costs. Not sure what he has now, guess that dirty ass S4 wagon?

7.2 looks tiny next to it.

 

[Deleted member 25]

A ferrari ? Is he still banned from testdriving them od his shows ?

 

[PC Valkyrie]

I must admit I'm not surprised about the +ve review from Chris Harris. Based on the Porsche's "success" with the 997 GT3 cars, I had faith that they would not take a step backwards with the new 991 GT3.

I think Harris makes a very good point about different people's feelings towards the 991 GT3:

Factually and objectively, the 991 GT3 is better than the 997.2 GT3 in every almost way. It is faster, it is more capable on road and track, it is "easier" to drive fast, it will be a more convenient daily driver in traffic, etc, etc.. The new engine sounds wonderful and revs higher than before. Even the recalibrated electric-mechanical steering rack feels awesome, the rear wheel steering is not intrusive and makes the car more agile, and PDK is "involving" and "fun" while being lightning fast in its shifts.

Philosophically, the "purists" have a problem.......because a GT3 is "supposed" to have a MT, a GT3 is "supposed" to have a Mezger engine, a GT3 is "not supposed" to have things like PTV and RWS (but power steering, power brakes, ABS, traction control, stability control are OK.... ). The purists would rather give up performance for the control, feel, challenge, and satisfaction of skillfully changing gears with a clutch and master the heel and toe technique.

After owning a 6MT 135i for the last 5 years, I can understand the satisfaction that comes with shifting gears manually with a clutch and mastering the heel/toe technique on road and on track. As I have never owned a any 911, I have no "history" or a list of what a GT3 is "supposed" or "not supposed" to have. My perspective is the following: the 991 GT3 is probably SO MUCH better as a performance car than any of my existing cars, and that owning a 991 GT3 would be a mind blowing experience such that the lack of a MT would be a mute point. I also feel that for such a high performance car, having PDK would be the "safer" option for tracking, as I can concentrate more on all the other things when going at high speeds. And with the PDK, I still have 100% complete control over gear selection at all times.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

What's the current car of Harris ?

He has many cars.

 

[Kilcrohane]

S-Class
Golf
911

new M3

Deutschland's crown jewels.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Actually, I would like to amend my earlier statement...

By every metric, the 991 iteration is objectively better than the 997 and its predecessors.

Except weight....but adding PDK and RWS will do that.

 

[330CIZHP]

Interesting how Porsche took a double clutch transmision and with a clear tire "thump" audible in the video, they made it behave like a single-clutch sequential (which in my book sounds infinitely better on a very high-revving car than the double clutch slipping through gears sound).

With a similar price tag as the Nissan GTR (that is massively struggling with sales), this could be the final nail in the coffin for the GTR.

 

[Levi68]

With a similar price tag as the Nissan GTR (that is massively struggling with sales), this could be the final nail in the coffin for the GTR.

Well, every car has their qualities, and I think it is nice they are different. If you look at the german premium sedans, for me they are too much the same, hence my preference for a Lexus IS or GS.

I'm not sure I'd prefer a 911 GT3 (though I'm a boxer fan) over a hard-core R8 V10 with manual and RWD.

 

[Sunny]

Replace 458 with 991 GT3 and you probably have 991 GT3 vs 997 GT3 comparison -

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R8 V10 with manual and RWD.

 

[mini_cooper4]

^LOL at the RWD R8. Should've told me earlier...

 

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[Levi68]

Mind-blowing! So nice the 991 GT3 didn't come with manual, it would make this car imperfect.

 

[Sunny]

^Imperfect is more fun some times. The in-car shot in that video reminds me of how the GTR felt, of course the GT3 has much a better sound track.

 

[Wunderkind]

S-Class
Golf
911

new M3

Deutschland's crown jewels.

You forgot the Mercedes G-Klasse.