michaelhutchence
Schwarzwald Sprinter
sorry, I surface the web from my phone, and I gave that rating by touching accidentally that sign. Sorry !! Anyway, why didn't anyone posted the last photo of an 435i almost uncamoed. It looks gorgeous.
4 Series [Spyshots] 2014 BMW 4 Series Spy Pics & Info
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The BMW 4 Series is a range of compact executive cars manufactured by BMW since 2013. The 4 Series was created when BMW spun off the 2-door models (coupé and convertible) of the 3 Series into a separate series.
sorry, I surface the web from my phone, and I gave that rating by touching accidentally that sign. Sorry !! Anyway, why didn't anyone posted the last photo of an 435i almost uncamoed. It looks gorgeous.
They did!! Several months ago!!
michaelhutchence
Schwarzwald Sprinter
Not those ones, I know them. There is a new shot of the front, it was yesterday posted on wcf, or on autoevolution.com, I mean that photo.
Why don't you post it then instead of asking why it hasn't been posted?
I've just seen the photos. What do they add over the pictures that were posted last Friday on here? The answer is "nothing".
michaelhutchence
Schwarzwald Sprinter
I thought that you will ask me this as it is logical, but I can't do this from the phone and my computer doesn't work. ^ and trust me, that photo is new and shows new details but you know what, I don't want to stress or annoy you anymore.
HighestOfHigh
Cornering Kingpin
Off topic posts have been deleted! Come on folks, it can't be that hard to stay on topic.
LaArtist
Wunderkind of Wheels
I wanted to ask this question for a long time, it does actually merit its own thread but im to lazy to make one now.
Do you guys think that BMW having the round shaped headlight design in their DNA from day one and to now, in a way limits them when it comes to designing Headlights.
I mean how much can you do with circles ( lord knows they've done all that can possible be done).
Compared to Audi and MB who have no such clear look for their headlights, don't you guys think that BMW is at a disadvantage?
MB and Audi can design whatever headlight they want, in whatever shape or form they please, and they do.
While with BMW its always to retain that classic circle look.
PS
Not saying that they can NOT design something else, of course they can, but that would be a huge bet, as it would not be instantly recognizable as a BMW.
See Z8 and 8 series fronts, people thought the 8 Series was a Ferrari back in the days
Do you guys think that BMW having the round shaped headlight design in their DNA from day one and to now, in a way limits them when it comes to designing Headlights.
I mean how much can you do with circles ( lord knows they've done all that can possible be done).
Compared to Audi and MB who have no such clear look for their headlights, don't you guys think that BMW is at a disadvantage?
MB and Audi can design whatever headlight they want, in whatever shape or form they please, and they do.
While with BMW its always to retain that classic circle look.
PS
Not saying that they can NOT design something else, of course they can, but that would be a huge bet, as it would not be instantly recognizable as a BMW.
See Z8 and 8 series fronts, people thought the 8 Series was a Ferrari back in the days
bimmerjph
Diesel Dynamiker
I wanted to ask this question for a long time, it does actually merit its own thread but im to lazy to make one now.
Do you guys think that BMW having the round shaped headlight design in their DNA from day one and to now, in a way limits them when it comes to designing Headlights.
I mean how much can you do with circles ( lord knows they've done all that can possible be done).
Compared to Audi and MB who have no such clear look for their headlights, don't you guys think that BMW is at a disadvantage?
MB and Audi can design whatever headlight they want, in whatever shape or form they please, and they do.
While with BMW its always to retain that classic circle look.
PS
Not saying that they can NOT design something else, of course they can, but that would be a huge bet, as it would not be instantly recognizable as a BMW.
See Z8 and 8 series fronts, people thought the 8 Series was a Ferrari back in the days
I don't think they have to be circles, as long as there are four of them though. That is a good question though. I am interested to see what others think.
aleks_16
Headlight Hero
It would be a big change but as long the Kidney grills stay there, a bmw could still be a real bmw without "four circles".
The old classic BMW´s didn´t have them, too.
EDIT: Hoffmeister kink should also stay this is a much bigger Icon of the BMW design then the headlights. IMO
The old classic BMW´s didn´t have them, too.
EDIT: Hoffmeister kink should also stay this is a much bigger Icon of the BMW design then the headlights. IMO
EnI
Piston Pioneer
Quad headlight projectors can be interpreted in many ways. The don't have to be completely round ... they can be round-ish (meaning: at least one curve should be there in the "ring" to indicate roundness). Same case wil :-shaped tail lights. They can be completely stylized - with only indication of "L". Or only the graphics can speak the design trademarks. Same case with the kink: it can be huge like on X-cars (almost a rectangular window) or only minimal like on GT-cars (almost a triangular window). Same case with kidney grille: there have to be two "kidneys" - more or less rounded somehow or at least indicating the roundness ... but they can be more vertical, more horizontal, more squarish, more stretched etc - it depends on design trends.
Sure BMW design is limited with those design trademarks. Designers have to operate within given design trademark parameters. Sure the are free to (re)interpret them but only to the degree those trademarks are still instantly recognizable. Others, without any so specific design detail trademarks, are less limited and have therefore much greater potential to introduce novelties, new design elements - usually inspired by some older design cues significant to that particular brand (like eg the Ponton hip / rear wheel arch @ MB).
But the continuity of the design details / trademarks (beyond badge / logo or grille only) gives a brand stronger & powerful image during the time line. Since there's a certainty, confidence, and a strong self-awareness & pride present via such constant design trademarks. It makes the design iconic. Look @ 911. It's not retro, it's very modern but still almost a copy of an original 911.
Still ... beside the logo & the double-kidney grill all the other BMW design trademarks are relatively new: shark-like nose, quad headlight projector, L-shaped tail lights, Hoffmeister kink, driver-oriented cockpit. So, new design details can be introduced over the time, and they become design trademarks over the time. Like eg the latest details like shark-fin antenna and the headlight "eyebrow" which both are now BMW design trademarks.
But even design trademarks don't last forever and can be dropped / replaced if needed / decided. But that's rare. More likely are the "radical reinterpretations" of those detail designs. 
Sure BMW design is limited with those design trademarks. Designers have to operate within given design trademark parameters. Sure the are free to (re)interpret them but only to the degree those trademarks are still instantly recognizable. Others, without any so specific design detail trademarks, are less limited and have therefore much greater potential to introduce novelties, new design elements - usually inspired by some older design cues significant to that particular brand (like eg the Ponton hip / rear wheel arch @ MB).
But the continuity of the design details / trademarks (beyond badge / logo or grille only) gives a brand stronger & powerful image during the time line. Since there's a certainty, confidence, and a strong self-awareness & pride present via such constant design trademarks. It makes the design iconic. Look @ 911. It's not retro, it's very modern but still almost a copy of an original 911.
Still ... beside the logo & the double-kidney grill all the other BMW design trademarks are relatively new: shark-like nose, quad headlight projector, L-shaped tail lights, Hoffmeister kink, driver-oriented cockpit. So, new design details can be introduced over the time, and they become design trademarks over the time. Like eg the latest details like shark-fin antenna and the headlight "eyebrow" which both are now BMW design trademarks.
But even design trademarks don't last forever and can be dropped / replaced if needed / decided. But that's rare. More likely are the "radical reinterpretations" of those detail designs. 
klier
Premium
They don't have to be round, they can be whatever. They have to be quad, that's all. Two eyes on both sides.
And the round shape is going to disappear. You can already see it on certain models in production and concepts as well.
SCOTT27
Lap Time Luminary
The problem with any design language is eventually it can become stale or interpreted by another manufacturer.
The BMW quad headlight is much imitated now , but as for BMW it is part of the design history so it can interpret the look in many other ways with both a look to the past and to the future. As we progress we will see different interpretations such as those on the recent concept cars the 4er , X4 and Gran Lusso and also at the rear with the classic L shape which is a feature in a new three dimensionally interpretation on the X5 and other incoming models.
Advances in lighting technology such as LED and laser technology also helps with design because light units can become more slimmer than before.
The BMW quad headlight is much imitated now , but as for BMW it is part of the design history so it can interpret the look in many other ways with both a look to the past and to the future. As we progress we will see different interpretations such as those on the recent concept cars the 4er , X4 and Gran Lusso and also at the rear with the classic L shape which is a feature in a new three dimensionally interpretation on the X5 and other incoming models.
Advances in lighting technology such as LED and laser technology also helps with design because light units can become more slimmer than before.
Human
You. The Road. Nothing else.
Identity is the greatest hallmark.
For BMW that means Quad Healamps and IMO the design interpretation is limitless (as seen from examples alreadyposted + lightning tech progessing fast)
Hence my signature and how I interprid: The/That Powerful Presence that is for me the "face" so Characteristic of a BMW.
Anybody who has a vague idea about cars can interprid these (Below) that is recognizing identity or facial recognision then not having a identity crisis - than in turn shows Strong Brand Presence also e.g the Coca-Cola ribbon device and font:
For BMW that means Quad Healamps and IMO the design interpretation is limitless (as seen from examples alreadyposted + lightning tech progessing fast)
Hence my signature and how I interprid: The/That Powerful Presence that is for me the "face" so Characteristic of a BMW.
Anybody who has a vague idea about cars can interprid these (Below) that is recognizing identity or facial recognision then not having a identity crisis - than in turn shows Strong Brand Presence also e.g the Coca-Cola ribbon device and font:
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