VW ID R breaks Pikes Peak record

[WBarnes]

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[Matski]

The Irony here is this is posted in the internal combustion thread.

 

[Centurion]

It went up the hill like a wasp.

We should be very excited about the future of sports car. In 3-5 year we will see electric hyper cars with acceleration, grip and responsiveness that was unimaginable 10 years ago.

 

[Beemer B773ER]

The Irony here is this is posted in the internal combustion thread.

I thought you were gonna say it's because it's a VW.

 

[Giannis]

It did good for a dishwasher.

 

[KiwiRob]

Image how much faster Loeb would have been in the same car, Dumas is an ok driver but on a tarmac rally stage up a hill my money's on Loeb getting it done all day long!!

 

[Matski]

Image how much faster Loeb would have been in the same car, Dumas is an ok driver but on a tarmac rally stage up a hill my money's on Loeb getting it done all day long!!

I'm not convinced he'd be that much faster, if it all. He's a talented driver on loose surfaces, but PPIHC is now all tarmac, and the car is more akin to a prototype. Loebs skill (and fame) is in managing at the limit with compromised mechanical grip, it's a different skill set. Getting to the point where you have to manage compromised mechanical grip in a car like this on a course like this means you're already 'sub-optimal'.

FWIW, I haven't seen the onboard of the whole run yet... but from what I have seen, I'd be surprised if Dumas couldn't take a good chunk of time off this run anyway.

 

[WBarnes]

It did good for a dishwasher.

You might say it made a clean sweep.

 

[KiwiRob]

I'm not convinced he'd be that much faster, if it all. He's a talented driver on loose surfaces, but PPIHC is now all tarmac, and the car is more akin to a prototype. Loebs skill (and fame) is in managing at the limit with compromised mechanical grip, it's a different skill set. Getting to the point where you have to manage compromised mechanical grip in a car like this on a course like this means you're already 'sub-optimal'.

FWIW, I haven't seen the onboard of the whole run yet... but from what I have seen, I'd be surprised if Dumas couldn't take a good chunk of time off this run anyway.

Loeb is a tarmac specialist who learned how drive on gravel, he's also won more tarmac stages than anyone else in the WRC.The 208 T16 ran the record on an all tarmac Pike Peak.

Also worth noting VAG dominated the Peak this year, as well as taking the unlimited class, they also won the production SUV and heavyweight motorbike classes with Bentley and Ducati.

 

[Matski]

Loeb is a tarmac specialist who learned how drive on gravel, he's also won more tarmac stages than anyone else in the WRC.The 208 T16 ran the record on an all tarmac Pike Peak.

Which is all fine, but it doesn't change the fact the Loeb's enviable record in the WRC doesn't necessarily translate to PPIHC. This event and type of course with this style of car is not usefully comparable to a tarmac stage in a WRC car.

Take half the wing off it, and fit it with Tyres eligible for FIA Tarmac Rally events, and maybe drop the average speed of the course by 50% and I'd be more inclined to agree with you.