VW/Audi preparing more Twincharger engines.

[Yperion]

I was reading latest Autocar yesterday and it seems that VW and Audi are working on a whole range of twincharger engines. Apart from the already known 1.4 TSI which produces 170 hp in the Golf and 140 hp in the Touran (shortly to come) , there will be 1.6 , 1.8 and 2.0 lt TSI engines.

As a matter of fact the new S3 will be the first to feature the new 2.0 TSI engine with 260 hp.

 

[Snake Vargas]

That is an interesting prospect. They numbers sure sound good on paper, but I'm a little wary of the end result.

Whilst not being one of the Detroit-iron maniacs who think that anything below 6.0L is a small displacement engine, I still wonder about the torque of even the existing Golf GT 1.4 TSI engine, not to mention its noise and whether it has any lag, and even fuel consumption. Any reviews? Or maybe I could only ever be satisfied by driving it myself, if it comes here at all.

So, a 1.8 TSI would be about right. Furthermore, a 2.0 TSI could indeed be a well-matched engine for an S3.

 

[Mr. M]

Probably they are thinking 'economical' more so than 'performance'. I think the 1.4TSI is pokey but I have a feeling it would be far weaker as the car goes faster. I think the use of a twincharger would eliminate any lag? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Yperion]

Greek car magazines have tested the Golf GT (1.4 TSI - 170 hp) and actually all of them were very impressed. No turbo lag , no extra noise from the engine and the consumption is at the same level of the 2.0 FSI (150 hp) while the accelaration is even better.

 

[Mr. M]

Good to hear.

 

[Bozzor]

Ah, but will VW/Audi start to play around with their 3.0 L+ displacement engines and see if TwinCharger can start giving some hot hp numbers...?

 

[martinbo]

Ah, but will VW/Audi start to play around with their 3.0 L+ displacement engines and see if TwinCharger can start giving some hot hp numbers...?

Whilst I know better than having to speculate against you (I still can't believe you called that BMW turbocharging thing way back - you bastid) I'm almost positive that VW's twincharging technology is suited solely to inline engines. Therefore, any of VW's larger capacity engines, given their V and W configurations would present exhaust and induction system layouts far too complex to be economically viable. At least, that's what I reckon.

PS. Who's that in your avatar? Is it you?

 

[PanterroR]

PS. Who's that in your avatar? Is it you?

Sorry, Boz, i'll reply to Martin on this one: Yeah, it's HIM!

 

[martinbo]

Sorry, Boz, i'll reply to Martin on this one: Yeah, it's HIM!

OT, That is so frikken cool man! After all these years, and the fella behind the Bozzor persona has the cool looks to match the brains. I wish I'd seen that picture a long long time ago.

Thanks Tyc...

 

[PanterroR]

I wish I'd seen that picture a long long time ago.

I did actually, when he was (he is i think) about to create his own site:

http://www.boryspawliw.com/

Thanks Tyc...

 

[Bozzor]

Sorry guys, website is still a while away from completion. It was designed to drum up business for me...trouble was, I have been loaded with work by referalls and no need to advertise. Still, I do feel it important to at least give people an idea of some ideas and concepts that I work with, so I have to swallow the loss in income and finish the site.

Martinbo, am blushing here...pls tell me I am mistaken and that you are really Keira Knightley and you want to give birth to my spawn... Actually, it's a bit of crappy shot, my eyes look deformed and uneven...maybe I should hook up with Paris Hilton?

Jokes aside, that BMW turbo call was not that hard to make. BMW had been making huge strides in turbo technology thanks to their diesel engines over the past 10 years.

People who were saying that BMW makes superb NA engines and did not need to 'cheat' by going to FI for the petrols underestimated the technical skill of BMW and their philosophy. BMW did not stick to NA engines per see, but rather wanted to give all their engines that amazingly fast and linear throttle response which people came to love and demand. Until now, that was not possible with FI...

But with the VW/Audi arrangement, it may well be possible in a different way. Hmmm, but I take your point about the configuration not working for V or W arrangements...but who knows what engineers can come up with?

 

[martinbo]

Ha! You wish Boz. Sorry for you but no Keira Knightly behind this - rather unexceptional - internet entity. I think it's cool photo in all honesty.

I still maintain that odds back then for calling the BMW turbo thing were stacked against you based on BMW's vociferous marketing blurb advocating the magnificence of the NA engines' linear delivery and electric response. Stuff that just about got rammed down the informed consumer's throat, if you get what I mean. And it wasn't limited to just M-powered models either. For a while back then BMW had me and very many other people convinced that natural aspiration was inextricably embedded in BMW's petrol engined future. Now... lookee here.

I still rate you for that call, no matter how modest you care to be.

 

[Bozzor]

Just wish that rating was more deserved! We will see how the turbo drives. It is BMW's answer to the Lexus and MB 3.5 L engines. HP is similar but naturally, torque is much greater.