Volkswagen 7 seat SUV

martinbo · Jan 15, 2013

Ok Deckhook. Let me ask you this question: is the UK market the same market as the North American market?

Deckhook · Jan 15, 2013

Giannis,

You aren't saying anything I'm in disagreement with, all you are trying to make a point of is that some products are uniquely design for a centain market and all I am saying as with my original reply to Martin was every car is engineered to fill the demand of the market or in the case of the X6 invent a demand in the market that previously never know it wanted or needed.

Deckhook · Jan 15, 2013

martinbo said:
Ok Deckhook. Let me ask you this question: is the UK market the same market as the North American market?

Have you bothered to listen to a word I have said here. I'm not disagreeing a car might be designed and developed for a certain market, all I'm saying is every car's development and production is engineered to meet a market.

martinbo · Jan 15, 2013

Oh for Pete's sake! You're the one who first stated the bleeding obvious. What else would it be engineered for? A Martian surface probe?

Giannis · Jan 15, 2013

Deckhook said:
Have you bothered to listen to a word I have said here. I'm not disagreeing a car might be designed and developed for a certain market, all I'm saying is every car's development and production is engineered to meet a market.

Just for the sake of it:

Deckhook said:
You could easily argue that every car is market engineered, after all its demand or the expectation of sales that drives everything.

Deckhook said:
It makes no difference if it engineered for one market or every market, 99% of motorcars on sale are built for the sole purpose of maximizing sales (that's the marketing part). This is the fact I am highlighting.

Deckhook said:
I'm simply saying that every car is conceived, designed and built to maximise sales which basically means they are market driven. What works in one market and not another has little to do with this fact.

What did you say with these three posts of yours, other than the fact that cars are designed to be sold so that they make profit?

If I wanted to be funny, yet kind of mean, I'd just say "No shit, Sherlock!"

Tumbo · Jan 17, 2013

martinbo said:
Definitely not. This is a market engineered model making use of a stretched MQB platform with tranversely-oriented powertrain. This helps it fit in between Tiguan and Touareg price-wise.

I read today in Swedish press (http://bytbil.com/nyheter/5vyjskyg) that there is a huge similarity between this and the Q7 indeed.
The CrossBlue is 4.99m long and 2.01m wide.
The Q7 is 5.08m long and 1.98m wide.

So the swedes have the opinion as this CrossBlue can also be a hint of the upcoming Q7.

martinbo · Jan 17, 2013

Tumbo said:
I read today in Swedish press (http://bytbil.com/nyheter/5vyjskyg) that there is a huge similarity between this and the Q7 indeed.
The CrossBlue is 4.99m long and 2.01m wide.
The Q7 is 5.08m long and 1.98m wide.

So the swedes have the opinion as this CrossBlue can also be a hint of the upcoming Q7.

I think they took some creative license and made some incorrect assumptions. VW expressly state that the CrossBlue makes use of an MQB platform whose custodianship lies with VW. MQB = transverse powertrain platform.
Audi on the other hand is responsible for MLB development. MLB = longitudinal powertrain platform. Next Q7 will certainly be MLB. The dimensions are merely incidental. CrossBlue is cheaper, lower tech than current or future Q7.

Human · Jan 17, 2013

martinbo said:
I think they took some creative license and made some incorrect assumptions. VW expressly state that the CrossBlue makes use of an MQB platform whose custodianship lies with VW. MQB = transverse powertrain platform.
Audi on the other hand is responsible for MLB development. MLB = longitudinal powertrain platform. Next Q7 will certainly be MLB. The dimensions are merely incidental. CrossBlue is cheaper, lower tech than current or future Q7.

What platform does Porsche use for the Cayenne?

Deckhook · Jan 17, 2013

Human said:
What platform does Porsche use for the Cayenne?

MLB

Wolfgang · Jan 18, 2013

In somewhat related news.

Mercedes AMG engine guru to join VW
Friedrich Eichler starts new job this summer
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130118/CARNEWS/130119835

Mr. Mercedes · Jan 18, 2013

Wolfgang said:
In somewhat related news.

Mercedes AMG engine guru to join VW
Friedrich Eichler starts new job this summer
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130118/CARNEWS/130119835

Great! NOT

NarutoRamen · Jan 18, 2013

PHYBENZ said:
Reminds me of a Jeep.

I'm late to the party, but you damn straight. The side profile with some of the bodywork detailing are VERY much like the new Jeep Gran Cherokee

Merc1 · Jan 19, 2013

When they re-design the Tiguan ala Jetta style, and get this SUV to market VW should be able to get really close to their 800K unit goal here in the U.S. by 2018. The next Golf and GTI and all its variants will help too.

M

Giannis · Jan 19, 2013

When they redesign the Tiguan, they better make it more reliable. I know about 5 or 6 Tiguan owners and every single one of them had more than 3 unexpected problems in the first year of ownership.

NarutoRamen · Jan 20, 2013

^^Let's see what they do and how they price these things. My family is in the market for an SUV with 7 or 8 passenger capabilities. Right now the first choice is the GL450 4-Matic, but the the high $$ amount is forcing us to look at used ones with around 50K miles on it. But even those are around $40-43K. Thus, I'm forcing them to look at newer cars with a little less luxury and name recognition. So I'm going to be comparing this, if it's coming this year, with the upcoming MDX. So let's see. How this is priced.