Ultra Luxury Battle! (RR, Bentley, Maybach)


What is the Ultra-Luxury Sedan?


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Looks and presence make a difference regardless of however good the engine or the chasis is.
Absolutely :usa7uh:

This really is the main issue. Technically, the Maybach is every bit as outstanding as the Rolls-Royce (with the 57S/62S having just about the most spectacular engine ever used in a production car).

I think DCX approached the design of the Maybach pretty much in the same way they do for all their cars -- and that was the big mistake.

Rolls-Royce didn't hold its market position for the past 40 years by producing the most technically outstanding cars in the world -- nearly all owners of Rolls-Royces and Bentleys from the 80s and 90s have stories about the unreliability of their cars. I remember a gentleman called Sir Francis Renouf complaining that you can always rely on your Rolls-Royce to leak oil when it's parked at the tennis club next to the BMWs and Mercedes-Benzes -- that was just the way it was.

So why did people continue to buy these outrageously expensive dinosaurs?

....because there was nothing else like them in the world. No matter how fantastic the quality of an S class or the technical advancement of a 7 series, a Rolls-Royce or Bentley was in a different league, owned for different reasons, to be judged by different criteria.

Rolls and Bentley are not sensible cars, they are massive, gas-guzzling tanks that some people hate simply because they are such blatant expressions of wealth and (in Britain at least) social class. Perhaps no other car (or maybe no other brand) makes such a clear and deliberate statement about a persons bank balance than a Rolls-Royce ...and for much of the marque's 101 year existence this has been one of its biggest selling points.

Rolls-Royce is a universally understood symbol of Capitalist success and excess -- a byword for wealth and privilege. The brand is loaded with powerful metaphors which are etched into the consciousness of our global culture.

Now that the technical aspects of the marque no longer betray the standards of excellence Rolls-Royce has always purported to stand for, the Phantom is the natural winner in this category.

I really think Mercedes has boxed Maybach into an impossible corner with the world-beating S-Class. How can they possibly top that car anytime soon? It would take a total redesign of the Maybach and that simply isn't happening anytime soon. Though Mercedes is back in the money, Maybach has never contributed to this and thus won't get any major financial backing which is what a redesign would call for. If Mercedes does produce this Ocean Drive as a Mercedes you can forget about Maybach.

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I still don't think Maybach is a lost cause ...but it will never beat Rolls-Royce at its own game.

Maybach needs to etch out its own market segment.

Instead of building another luxury limo with the usual wood and leather interior, Maybach needs to go beyond the ordinary, be totally original, create something truly amazing, something sublimely new and cutting-edge.

The problem is, BMW is currently so far ahead of DCX with this way of thinking. Ironically, I believe it is BMW who would have made Maybach the greatest luxury car in the world; not by giving the world a German answer to Rolls-Royce, but rather, by giving us a whole new interpretation of a luxury vehicle ......something that is at the very edge of design and engineering.

The market for luxury products has changed and expanded greatly over the past decade. The high-end of the market is far more design conscious than ever before; these are the people who commission great architects to design their houses, collect experimental design objects and contemporary art -- this is the market Maybach should be aimed at.

Leave the Phantom for the traditionalists, Maybach should be for the futurists.
 
Rolls royce gots too much wood in the Interior... betly couldve done alot more... the Maybach prob best intrior.. but looks the same as an S-class from the Inside.. i think the 08' C class has a better interior ?
Well I guess it is a matter of personal taste ...but the Phantom would not be a "real" Rolls-Royce without all the wood -- it is what the buyers of the Phantom expect in a Rolls-Royce -- it is "the way of things" ;)

As for the Maybach, it does have a very comfortable and spacious interior -- very fine materials and best production quality -- DCX got all that stuff right, they just left out the vital (yet intangible) ingredient: Theatricality ....and the Phantom has it in abundance -- it's all about pretense and drama with these types of vehicles.

It is not at all surprising that in reviews, writers always focus on the Maybach's power, technology, comfort, and performance, whereas with the Phantom and Arnage, although they do discuss the technical aspects, they almost always end up speaking in metaphors and referring to emotions, feelings and perceptions.
 
Well Rob sadly u r right:D ,anyway i really think that MB will never let MM suffer like that anymore,there must be a huge plan in the works to bring it back BIG and the EXcelero concept i believe would be a hell of a good start!
 
great post, but even if I had the money I don't think that I would buy one. That's too much money for me to spend on a car.
 
LOL, Honestly I take an S65 /////AMG over all three of these ugly cars !! Who's with me ??:D
 
Never in a million yrs... yes x1000 over the maybacj and yes times 10 over the arnage

But the rolls royce 400000000000x over the mercedes :D

I've seen a roller in real life and i think if jesus comes back even he will want to be driven around in one of them... there fit for gods
 
well im not with him as far as calling these 3 ugly..
but i would pick the S65 over any of em..as it suits me better..
especially over the RR..and the MM.. they are to crazy...( once again especially the RR)
the bentley is a S65 type of car..and i would like to have it..but its to old now..
 
I didnt say they were ugly... altho the maybach isnt exactly a charming piece of metal...

im just saying nothing comes close to the feeling of a rolls royce... its almost spiritual
 
I didnt say they were ugly... altho the maybach isnt exactly a charming piece of metal..

Can't say you're wrong, I've seen the Maybach and I don't fancy it at all but the Maybach 57S is a different story. I saw it last year as was completely blow away by it. It's amazing how sometimes small changes can make a gigantic difference.

The car is spectacular, the carbon fiber and the black/white designo combo is an unbeatable. The car also looks much better with a short wheel base. IMO the 57S is one of the top finest cars which MB have to offer.

I'm a fan of the Phantom but it simply isn't me. I just can't see myself sitting in the back seat of the car being driven by some other dude. The Arnage is a car I love to death but it is a bit old compared with the Arnage and Roller. That is why I voted for MM in this thread, but most importantly the MM 57S, I hate the other versions. It is a very sexy, modern and probably more capable drivers car than the Roller and Arnage. I love all three but I find the Maybach 57S to be a very competitive and attractive car. Too bad MB didn't market it properly.


 
YES that is hot... but i think the roller would be a ebtter drivers car aswell... it isnt overlad with technology and it is made mostly by BMW... suggesting decent dynamics to drive and work with
 

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