Carrera GT "The Convoluted History Of Why The Carrera GT Sounds Like An F1 Car"


The Porsche Carrera GT (Project Code 980) is a mid-engine sports car that was manufactured by Porsche from 2003 to 2006.

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Lately I've been reading articles over at Jalopnik and came across this one. The Carrera GT has a certain mystique about it...alluring power that's difficult to tame. Hope you guys enjoy the article as much as I did.

http://jalopnik.com/the-convoluted-history-of-why-the-carrera-gt-sounds-lik-1636980042

The Convoluted History Of Why The Carrera GT Sounds Like An F1 Car

The Porsche Carrera GT has always been known for its screaming wail of an exhaust note, not so different from an old F1 car. As it turns out, there’s a very good (if complicated) reason for that.

Let me start by saying Porsche has a long and often-overlooked history as an F1 engine manufacturer. The company powered two constructor’s championships and three driver’s championships in the ‘80s with over two dozen wins to their name.

Well, not exactly to their name.

Porsche designed and built the V6 turbo engines that took McLaren to its very lofty highs from ‘84 to ‘87, but you tend not to hear about that. The reason is because the entire engine project was funded by a Luxembourger company of the name TAG (Techniques d’Avant Garde), and they held the naming rights to the engines. Some press reports credited Porsche, which had their name stamped on the plenum chamber, but the German company’s great success still hasn’t had the recognition it deserves.

Porsche’s Grand Prix program stretches even further back in the 1950s and ‘60s, actually. They started out racing two-seaters in Formula 2, then built a dedicated single seater F2 car, and then in 1961 finished the design of a fully-fledged F1 car, the 804. It had a mid-mounted air-cooled flat eight and it managed to score a single win with American Dan Gurney at the wheel in 1962’s French Grand Prix at Rouen.

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Don’t forget to tell your friends about that win at parties. Rouen! You’ll remember it forever.

In any case, after Porsche’s turbo success with McLaren in the ‘80s, they tried a naturally aspirated engine in the ‘90s. The same guy who was in charge of the ‘80s V6 turbo program (the great Motor Pope Hans Mezger) was at the head of the ‘90s N/A one, and his solution was basically to graft two of those old V6s together and drop the turbos.

Here’s Mezger standing proud with his new V12. It took its power out of the middle of the engine (a Mezger specialty) and its twin-six origin is pretty clear.

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It was one of his rare failures.

The engine was overweight and underpowered, possibly because of confusion between Porsche and their F1 customers, the much-maligned Footwork team. Porsche’s 3.5 liter V12 was actually so large that Footwork had to redesign their car just to get it to fit.

The 1991 Footwork with its Porsche V12 was so bad that Footwork actually dumped Porsche and switched to Ford engines in the middle of the season. To say that the program didn’t go great would be an understatement.

In the midst of all of this, Porsche was developing a new engine for the 1992 season, a 3.5 liter V10. The Footwork deal getting cancelled basically pulled the rug out from under the new engine and Porsche had to figure out what to do with it.

Porsche officially denied the V10 program existed, as motorsport tech site Mulsanne’s Corner claims.

Porsche couldn’t exactly let a perfectly good race engine lie around, so it ended up powering Porsche’s upcoming Le Mans program. Porsche had been very active in Le Mans in the 1990s with three overall wins. Two came from Porsche-powered TWR prototypes and one came from Porsche’s prototype-in-a-fancy-suit GT1 car.

That last GT1 win was in ‘98, but it was clear that full-fledged open-topped prototypes were the way forward for the 24LM, so Porsche set about developing an LMP1 car. They called it the 9R3 and they did a fair bit of work to the F1 engine to make it Le Mans-viable. They increased the capacity to both 5.0 and 5.5 liters, added in air restrictors for endurance racing’s regulations, and they deleted the F1 engine’s cutting-edge pneumatic valve system.

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This is the only studio photo of the car I’ve ever seen, found by Mulsanne’s Corner and taken from an internal Porsche calendar.

The motorsports team got reasonably far with its development when the whole program got canned.

Porsche as a company was struggling financially and their head honchos axed the fledgling LMP1 program and dumped its funding into the Cayenne SUV as a last shot at keeping things afloat. It may be more than a coincidence that the Cayenne shares its platform with the VW Touareg and that VW’s friends at Audi started to dominate Le Mans just when Porsche’s program got cut. Was a nefarious deal struck between Porsche’s Wendelin Wiedeking and VW’s Ferdinand Piëch? That’s a question for conspiracy theorists.

Much to the disgust of Porsche purists, the Cayenne was a huge success. Suddenly Porsche had enough money to greenlight an expensive vanity project, so they approved the design of a new brand-affirming supercar. I think you can see where this is going.

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Porsche grabbed that old V10 off the shelf, probably gathering dust after not one but two failed racing programs. They bumped the displacement again, boring it out to 5.7 liters. It made 605 horsepower and 435 lb-ft of torque.

Like a racing engine, the Carrera GT’s motor was dry-sumped and bolted right to the carbon-fiber chassis as an integral member. It’s a 68-degree vee with no cylinder liners. The cylinders are coated with Nikasil, a nickel and silicon solution Porsche had been using since the 1970 917 and was most famously deployed in, uh, the Chevy Vega.

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I can also tell you that the engine used a fully-closed deck for strength, titanium conrods, and variable cams. Porsche further stated in their press release that “camshaft drive is a combined sprocket/chain system with rigid cup tappets that guarantees a stiff and sturdy valve drive,” though I have no idea what that means.

I can, however, say that I now feel a distinct lack of cup tappet rigidity in my vehicles.

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The whole engine weighed 472 pounds.

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When the Carrera GT went on sale in 2004 (four years after its debut as a concept car), its figures were low compared to its supercar rivals at Ferrari or McLaren-Mercedes, but the way the engine worked was like nothing else on the road.

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There was the sound. Dear lord the sound. It’s a challenge to find good videos of what the car sounds like wailing up to the 8,400 redline, and I think this review with Germany’s Tim Schrick gets it best. The title of the video is “Drift Orgy in the Mountains,” and you can it appreciate even if you don’t speak German.

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The revs rose and fell like a racing engine, and the thing wailed like the F1 car it was intended to be. Coupled with a tricky carbon clutch, the Carrera GT was actually so sensitive to the throttle that it developed a reputation for stalling. Here’s how Car and Driver described it.

The downside to this is that you will stall the car from a standstill. Everyone who sat in the driver’s seat did. Well, you’ll either stall it, or your big dumb right foot will call for far too many revs, spin the rear tires furiously, and a second later get shut down by traction control.

People soon figured out that you had to let off the clutch with your foot completely clear of the gas pedal to get the car to trundle away. Porsche eventually figured out some kind of fix and the later cars weren’t such aggressive stallers.

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But little tricks like that are just what you get when you have a road car with an engine from not one, but two racing cars.

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Photo Credits: Porsche via Mulsanne’s Corner and Stuttcars
 
I've always thought the success of the Cayenne gave us the Carrera GT. Didn't know this was really true.

Does this mean the success of the Panamera gave us the 918?

What will the success of the Macan bring us?
 
Amazing morning read. I knew a few of the facts but quite a lot of the information was new to me.

Thanks for sharing.
 
I've always thought the success of the Cayenne gave us the Carrera GT. Didn't know this was really true.

Does this mean the success of the Panamera gave us the 918?

What will the success of the Macan bring us?

The Panamera cost 1 billion Euro to develop and uses a custom platform not shared with any other car. It's as unique and as expensive as any four door car can be. No doubt Porsche are able to squeeze profit out of it but unlikely to the same extent as the Cayenne and Macan which have significantly lower development costs.
 
Porsche couldn’t exactly let a perfectly good race engine lie around, so it ended up powering Porsche’s upcoming Le Mans program. Porsche had been very active in Le Mans in the 1990s with three overall wins. Two came from Porsche-powered TWR prototypes and one came from Porsche’s prototype-in-a-fancy-suit GT1 car.

The Porsche WSC-95 which won LeMans in 95 & 96 was basically an open top version of the Jaguar XJR-14, it used XJR-14 chassis no 791, the engine was a version of the Type 935 6, form the 956. Ross Brawn was the designer of the XJR-14. The chassis has had quite a history.

791 - 1991: Nürburgring (1st), Magny Cours (5th), Mexico (6th), Sugo (9th). 1992 : Laguna Seca (4th), Phoenix (2nd), Del Mar (3rd-DNF). Converted to a Porsche WSC95 Spyder in late 1994, raced at Le Mans in 1996 and 1997 by Reinhold Joest, winning the race on both occasions. Location : now in Reinhold Joest's private museum.

Originally she looked like this

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Then Joest turned her into the Porsche WSC-95

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TWR also built 5 additional XJR-14 chassis which they sold to Mazda who raced them as the MXR-01.

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I would love to see the 918 successor use that V10 along with it's hybrid system. But despite using a hybrid system, that engine would probably be an absolute bastard to get past emission regulations today and in the future.
 
I remember some guy used to own black carrera gt with brown leather. He lived just 8km away from me, I saw him at least ten times with the car. I mean in pictures it's beautiful, but in real life it's even better and what a sound! Latter he put on straight pipe exausts, but to me it sounded better with original exausts. The guy sold the car about two years ago and changed it for mercedes s63 amg coupe?! I mean it's a great car, but to replace the carrera gt with that kind of car?! Either he is an idiot, or he needed money. Anyway what a car...
 
Jalopnik just added a new post, further adding to CGT's lore.

http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/heres-porsches-secret-le-mans-car-16-years-after-it-was-1786093192

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/secret-porsche-le-mans-car-revealed/?platform=hootsuite

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/porschelmp1.html

Interestingly, it's been rumored/suggested much of Porsche's LeMan project was ditched or possibly transferred to VW/Audi in exchange for the Touareg platform to make the Cayenne. How much of that is true, I don't know.
 
Interestingly, it's been rumored/suggested much of Porsche's LeMan project was ditched or possibly transferred to VW/Audi in exchange for the Touareg platform to make the Cayenne. How much of that is true, I don't know.
That sounded like a deal not even the devil will agree to, coincidentally, Audi won Le Mans in 2000.
 
That sounded like a deal not even the devil will agree to, coincidentally, Audi won Le Mans in 2000.

Considering that, despite the recent financial success of the 996/986 in bringing much needed profits in what was a floundering business, Porsche needed to still maintain revenue. So I can see a possibility of back-room deal of this sort being made as some of the dates do match match up.

The 1st gen Cayenne/Touareg came out in 2002, so development of the platform with VAG began, at the latest, 5 years prior...so let's say around 1997-1998. Which is around the time Audi entered LeMans competition with Joest Racing and when Porsche departs from prototype racing. Joest Racing, historically, was teamed up with Porsche for many years prior.

Yes, from a enthusiast's perspective, it's not a great deal, if that is what was arranged, and the Cayenne was panned by many, myself included, for deviating from Porsche's sports-car roots. But, in the end, it is what kept Porsche afloat with minimal effects in building world-class sports cars and Porsche is back again dominating LeMans. (Though, I do hope Toyota wins it in 2017. ;) )
 
Watching the Evo video, it's unthinkable that we'll ever see a manual hyper cars again.

Yes, from a enthusiast's perspective, it's not a great deal, if that is what was arranged, and the Cayenne was panned by many, myself included, for deviating from Porsche's sports-car roots. But, in the end, it is what kept Porsche afloat with minimal effects in building world-class sports cars and Porsche is back again dominating LeMans. (Though, I do hope Toyota wins it in 2017. ;) )

Yupp. You can't look at the GT4, 911 GT3 or even the Boxster and say that Porsche have derailed from their purpose. The Cayenne has been a financial success for them, and a thrilling SUV for customers.
 

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Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, is a German automobile manufacturer specializing in high-performance sports cars, SUVs, and sedans, headquartered in Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany. Owned by Volkswagen AG, it was founded in 1931 by Ferdinand Porsche. In its early days, Porsche was contracted by the German government to create a vehicle for the masses, which later became the Volkswagen Beetle. In the late 1940s, Ferdinand's son Ferry Porsche began building his car, which would result in the Porsche 356.
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