Gone off track The 'All kind of sales' Kindergarten

[dalab]

The sales volume of the 8 series and XM is low and will remain so. The 8 may survive as a 4-door in the future. XM's future is not bright with its current style.

Sorry?
You are already saying any unsubstantiated and distorted nonsense.
The 8 series runs between 15 to 20,000 a year, not a bad number for an "old" car anymore.
About XM you are saying what you think, not reality nor do you know what will happen, for now it was born well.

Europe January 2024

People are moving away from expensive electric cars.

Great moment for the new G-Class EV?

BMW does not have a solid foundation in the top segment.

Didn't you read what I said about the X7?
Yes, I already told you that BMW don't have a Myabach and even so the difference is not that big in the top segments, the 7 series just ate 25,000 sales from the S-Class, step by step

M cars sales numbers are a mess

We do not know how much of a role these models play in the difference with Mercedes.

Don't you see the figures? 205,000 vs 143,000 in 2023 that's a beating, and AMG uses AMG's lights in their figures too so I don't understand your comment.

G63 is the most preferred G class version.

That's simply not true, prove it to me

Thoroughbred AMG models such as AMG GT and AMG SL are also an advantage of Mercedes.

Yes, a great contribution, come on, when you write things like that I see that you are blinded by fanaticism

Europe January 2024 (your figures)

I don't think you comment more today

 

[leylandi]

8 series sales figures are now given together with the 7 series. How do you know that 20 thousand units were sold? In 2022, the 7 and 8 series sold a total of 48 thousand units. Is this number the success of 8 or the failure of 7?

XM has become a car that dealers are trying to sell off with huge discounts (like the 8 series). 350 units were delivered in Europe in January. Why didn't you share this?

I don't understand why CLS is sharing sales numbers. Its production stopped in August, and it is not among the top models.

If the 7 series beat the S class by 25 thousand units (your inference), is the sales of 93 thousand units, excluding EQS, a failure? How much do you think has been added to the 30 thousand units of the 7 series sold in 2022? Including EQS, the number is 107 thousand units. We'll see if the 7 and i7 can reach half of this number.

The most preferred model of the G class in China, the USA and Germany is the G63. These are G's biggest markets. Sales volume of the diesel G400 is limited. Most of those who buy V8 prefer G63 instead of G500. With the make-up, G500 will no longer be V8...

Approximately 10 thousand units of SL were sold in 2023. An expensive roadster, it sold close to the 8 series in 3 body styles. As far as I know, it was sold even more than the Z4. Will you still defend the 8 series?

AMG GT sport has a single engine option. The 8 series is sold with 4 options, including 1 diesel, and 2 body styles. The price and choice range is wider. AMG GT is just AMG.

You're right, I've put up with too much of your bullshit today. I won't write any more.

 

[leylandi]

You were expecting drama in the sales numbers of the C and S class in 2023, but your expectations did not come true. It must have been a disappointment for him too. GLC and E class will make you very sad this year. Be prepared. @dalab

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

@dalab watching you wax lyrical about the 7 series sales is hilarious. Its brand new and the S is mid cycle with no doubt a substantial facelift coming. This generation of 7 isn't changing anything. It's probably alienated as many buyers as it's gained.

Now on s subjective note...I saw one barrelling down the freeway in my direction the other day. I couldn't help but think, how revolting. It's so frigging high that even though it's wide, it looks skinny with an absurdly blunt pig snout.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

Right, and it's just pathetic. I have never seen someone so desperate to find an issue that isn't there to put another brand over. Pages and pages of ridiculous "analysis" that at child could do better. It's diarrhea in even the Mercedes threads now.

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He's out of control. He needs a life or a girlfriend.

 

[dalab]

@dalab watching you wax lyrical about the 7 series sales is hilarious. Its brand new and the S is mid cycle with no doubt a substantial facelift coming. This generation of 7 isn't changing anything. It's probably alienated as many buyers as it's gained.

It is very possible that it is as you say, as is also my tessitura, their sales drop by 25,000 units the year their main competitor goes on sale....it doesn't seem crazy to me to think like that, we'll see what happens at the end of the year, I know that in general it sold more than the G11, I'm not so sure that more than the S.
LCI or not, many cars, they do not lose a single sale, it is not always linear

Right, and it's just pathetic. I have never seen someone so desperate to find an issue that isn't there to put another brand over. Pages and pages of ridiculous "analysis" that a child could do better.

It's the problem of mediocre minds, they can't accept what they don't see, the same goes for the large grills of the 4 series, I also said it with the iX, sometimes, just sometimes, I'm not wrong, but put me on your list of ignored and stop vomiting words.

It's diarrhea in even the Mercedes threads now.

You use so many metaphors...

He's out of control. He needs a life or a girlfriend.

I could have both at the same time with you darling

 

[klier]

^ Brand group "progressive" LMAO which retard marketing intern made that up?

He's out of control. He needs a life or a girlfriend.

Dude, you guys have Leylandi who is equally pathetic and sad.

It evens out.

 

[Rolf]

F$ck all we see is the 7 series did this and the S-class did that. You guys take these sales wars too seriously.

BTW I heard from one guy I know at a Mercedes dealer in Saudi the FL S-class will have free LV and DG bags and clothes thrown in together with new LV and DG trimmed seats. A new Gold and Silver trim is coming with gold leaf imbedded wood and Black Chrome grills and badges. A 1000PS S65 Black Series will be coming with a N-Ring time of less than 7min.

BMW will be bringing free access to Pornhub on its 7-series models fitted with 31inch cinema rear screen. Some vibration function will be played through the subwoofers during the bumping and grinding scenes.

 

[Mr. Mercedes]

I could have both at the same time with you dadarling.

Cute. Want to facetime?

 

[dalab]

Cute. Want to facetime?

Yes please!

 

[dalab]

Dude, you guys have Leylandi who is equally pathetic and sad.

Ouch.... thank you?, better don't defend me so much...

 

[Gianclaudio]

Dude, you guys have Leylandi who is equally pathetic and sad

No, not even close. He's just the classic troll, who likes to annoy people from his "rival" brand. Sometimes, it's even funny. Think of a juvenile LaArtist. Or Klier from 10 years ago

But he doesn't chase you, harassing and trying to discredit and ridicule your opinions.
I've been extremely vocal against current Mercs (I dislike most of Wagener era works) and have never ever been mistreated by Leylandi.
Nor does he go all over the forum saying other brands copy Mercedes or should follow their path.

Just look at these nonsense in the Jeep and Saab forums (FFS !!!!):

Interesting, everyone is starting to go for that style of sheet metal, then you have to listen that BMW does not set the tone, you have to look further, when that brand speaks you have to listen

Jeep - The Art of Design: A First Look Inside the Luxurious All-new, All-electric Jeep Wagoneer S

January 30, 2024, Auburn Hills, Mich. – The Jeep® brand is looking to its legendary history as it crafts its electrified future. The industry’s first modern SUV – the iconic 1963 Jeep Wagoneer – featured a luxurious interior, upscale materials, and premium appointments. Today, the Jeep brand...

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If BMW, a "family" company, had not had a lot of cash flow for doing things right for decades and continued to take risks with SUVs and other models criticized in function and form, they could perfectly be in this same situation, especially with the complete pass. towards EV's, but old timers still want them to make "only" E30's today.....

Saab - Why did Saab have to die?

I think of their checkered history and what led to their downfall, every time I see one on the road, and yes I tii, think they could have potentially made the best of this recent EV trend, if only things had worked out better for them

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Nor does Leylandi writes unintelligible, incoherent rants in awful English or doing 1:1 translation of sayings which lose sense in other languages other than Spanish (chocolate for the news, cold chest).

But then again, as native Spanish speaker, I get shocked at his basic, primitive language, when he forgets to turn translation on (horrible syntax and atrocious punctuation):

Norr turn anything into a sales nonsense rant:

Will things like that (among others) be what are affecting sales? or in the medium and long term......
I imagine that an S-Class is bought precisely so as not to have the problems of cheap cars.

Mick’s new S on duty

I believe I can make this stiching better (I have never tried)

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Of course, the dbag is going to come and try to insult me (I take no offense from primitive, uneducated cavemen) swearing all kind of elementary curse, Matski is gonna say to cut with the nonsense and move this post to the fight club and everything will be like nothing happen, as usual.

Sad state of affairs for this forum.

 

[Matski]

Matski is gonna say to cut with the nonsense and move this post to the fight club and everything will be like nothing happen, as usual.

Sad state of affairs for this forum.

It is a sad state of affairs, it's sad that a bunch of children masquerading as adults choose to have a bitch-fit about something they could just have easily scrolled past.

We could take further action, perhaps we will at some point. But I'll be honest, when we discuss the inevitable reports that follow these types of incident, it's my personal perspective - and therefore my contribution to that discussion - that 4 or 5 of you ARE as bad as each other. You can choose to advocate for action against Dalab, but you should probably consider that when we're debating people's behaviour (which, FYI is the issue, NOT somebody's iffy grasp on the English language, or their lack of praise for the sacred S-Class), it's not particularly fair to only consider the stuff Dalab directs outwards, while ignoring the stuff that's directed at him.

You might think that contributing a ranty post (with supporting links and screenshots nontheless!) about how much you don't like another user, complete with varying degrees of insults, is somehow a more worthwhile contribution to a SALES thread (at the same time as liking equally pointless childish posts from Merc1 and MrMercedes)... whilst Dalab's probably ill-formed analysis of car sales isn't... but I'm not personally sure how you can reasonable justify that.

 

[franksmissing]

You were expecting drama in the sales numbers of the C and S class in 2023, but your expectations did not come true. It must have been a disappointment for him too. GLC and E class will make you very sad this year. Be prepared. @dalab

And I like the GLC and E class! Respectability and beauty! And it gives indescribable impressions!

 

[Gianclaudio]

But I'll be honest..... it's my personal perspective - and therefore my contribution

Don't need "to be honest", it's pretty clear what's your position regarding him.

or their lack of praise for the sacred S-Class

Lame attempt at make this a holy fanboy crusade. I'm not a Mercedes at all fan, but if that's needed on the narrative to justify his behavior, go ahead.

at the same time as liking equally pointless childish posts from Merc1 and MrMercedes

Sorry for using the rating system, next time I'll ask you before.

about something they could just have easily scrolled past

Well, it's an open, public forum, so there's a chance that when you post nonsense, someone will pick and refute you.
And yet, I can't even recall how many times I've scrolled past his direct quotes and provocation, to avoid spreading the disease. But sorry, my fault.

complete with varying degrees of insults

Perhaps according to you calling someone a primitive or basic -after you ignore the profanities he swears at me like mofo, sob, et all- fits as an insult; but just alas, the repeated attempts at bigotry (one of which, you deleted on Saturday) also conveniently fall out of your radar.

Would you act the same if someone call Rolf, Martin, etc as an apartheid supporter or any German member here as a Nazi?

I guess the standards are not the same for everyone; but then again, that happens when you have a children masquerading as an adult mod.